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posted December 21, 2008 06:57 PM         

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well, i also believe in immortality, be it continuous or recurring!...but this quote was one of my mother's favourites:

"the price of eternal youth is arrested development.." it MAY have been dorothy parker who first said it...

and it contains a paradox which i have about physical immortality. what age would you choose to stay at, what ages would you prefer to skip, and would your mental age revert as well?? because i don't know that i would like to go back to the angst of, say, 21...

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posted December 21, 2008 10:47 PM         

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A healthy 35 to 40 year old looking body.
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Preferably male.

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posted December 22, 2008 11:15 AM         

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and do you think you can have a 35 year old body with a 60 year old brain? (or 160?) i would love to hear from people who are actually experiencing youthing...

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posted December 22, 2008 09:22 PM         

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I think if you have a 35 yr old body then you have a 35 yr old brain, however you could have a 60 (160) yr old mind. And by mind, I mean you retain your memories.
I think part of it is thinking. What if a 35 yr old, with his 35 yr old brain and 60 yr old mind still acted old because he thinks old.
I see 40 somethings(for example)who look 50-60 because of how they dress, act, and they talk like they're old. You know "when you get to be this age your knees will let you know before it starts to rain..."
Too many people expect to get old. And I dare say want to get old.
Yes, I said it. They want to get old.

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posted December 22, 2008 09:42 PM         

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I think continually going through the cycle of say 25-40ish.
I think as long as your retaining your memories and building on your experiences I don't think there will be arrested developement.

The problem with this stuff is what about those people in your life who don't believe in immortality and continue aging. For example if you had children. People are going to know your not 25 when your kid is say 30 and you've lived in town for years.

You'd have to constantly move and get away from people who knew you when.

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posted December 23, 2008 11:20 AM         

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i knew some teenagers who were "old women"! in their attitudes...but this is the crux of my problem with immortality in one lifetime...because if you retain the memories and "wisdom" of your experience, you cannot continue to think like a 25 year old, can you? and not sure i would even want to. at 25 i was still pretty dumb, reactionary and stressable.

of course with ENOUGH experience you can become "as a little child" in your sense of wonder and joy - and maybe a continually young body free of major aches and health issues would contribute to that also...

just can't make up my mind. and it's not just the mental/emotional stuff,

though i have SLIGHTLY less energy than when i was 21, i have generally better health now!! so would i want to go back?

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posted December 26, 2008 11:36 AM         

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I'm rather immature but still retain the intelligence of the accumulated past. Not a bad combination. I rather like myself.

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posted December 26, 2008 06:29 PM         

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I Think having a body between ages 25-30 would be nice and having wisdom of a 200,00 year old with a body of ages 25-30 would be cool never ending wisdom learned throughout the ages

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posted December 27, 2008 09:48 AM         

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immature in what way, randall, for your age or in general...?? have you been youthing? if so for how long and what is your target age?? i won't ask your "real" age obviously...

of course we all have the wisdom of however many lifetimes we have been through if we could access it...

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posted December 27, 2008 09:46 PM         

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Let's just say I've had many issues with my ex-girlfriend due to my so-called "immaturity" as she put it. But I love how I am and wouldn't change a thing about my personality. It's certainly easier to freeze aging than to reverse spiral; plus going backwards you have to deal with stirring up past issues, feelings, and likes/dislikes/tastes in various things, but I don't mind it (even if people around me do). The infinite intelligence of the human body takes care of the details, but I know (for men at least) that it involves testosterone production, because I'm having to watch my temper flares and resist the temptation to fight (as opposed to more "mature" alternatives), and I'm told I'm a bit of an *sshole as of late. But I don't want that to sound bad, because it's more subtle than it sounds. I like me. What's wrong with that? Many of you may have noticed me exude a different attitude a few months ago dealing with LL "dissenters." That's pretty much my philosophy on Life. If you're not a part of the solution, then you're part of the problem, so just STFU and get out of the way. Wow, that was really an *sshole thing to say, wasn't it?

Awww...a cute widdle ladybug is crawling in front of my computer screen! I love these critters! I guess I still have a sensitive side, too.

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posted December 31, 2008 07:51 PM         

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see, this is what makes me dubious about the benefits of immortality in one life...do i really want to go back to the hormonal problems of, say, my 30's? or the problems i had with substances in my 20's? how can i go back to just the good bits? isn't it all a holistic package, good and bad?? is being younger actually better??

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posted January 03, 2009 11:45 AM         

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You will have the accumulated knowledge of your solar age, so I don't view it as negative. I like the way I am. The "act your age" people are actually propogating a deathist mentality.

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posted January 03, 2009 12:27 PM         

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Randall why did you spiral yourself back to an age with hormonal problems? I get a sense that you like the feeling of all that excess testesteron floating around in your body.
No but really I think the ideal age of the body, which has nothing to do with my souls progress, would be around 25, when the body is fully matured for most of us. I freezed my body there, but my mind and consciousnes is still growing.
It happens that I meet people around 60 years of age for example which has an old body but a mind and consciousnes like an unexperienced 25 year old.

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posted January 03, 2009 04:02 PM         

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how long have you guys been "youthing" (for lack of a better word)? and i think ioe, that randall means an increase in testosterone, which would only be natural if you are turning back the body clock. see when i was younger i had years of hormonal fluctuations creating cysts monthly ... don't want to go THERE again!!

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posted January 04, 2009 12:29 AM         

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Yep, it was just a natural byproduct.

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posted January 04, 2009 02:58 AM           

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"the price of eternal youth is arrested development.." it MAY have been dorothy parker who first said it...

i urge you to elaborate the meaning of that quote...(ARRESTED DEVELPOMENT)... herein lies a danger... arrested development means to end your progressive evolution with God(MAN HAS NOT COMPLETED HIS HIGHEST FORM YET,YET WILL WHEN THE EARTH TAKES ITS NEW ORBIT AS THE MORNING STAR), in the near future ... the Earth and its inhabitants are going to experience a Holy Event(not a religious one) but a Universal one so to speak....As the increase of the Earths Birthing Pangs(yes our Mother Eearth is pregnant) continue(i.e. Natural Weather Events/Earthquakes,Melting of the Polar Caps,etc.) and before this happens you are going to start hearing about Time Travel/living in a new Space Time and Immortality(from the Dark Forces....do not buy into it... to act a certain age is one thing ... to try and achieve Physical Immoratlity in this current body would be of grave danger to your evolution in Gods scheme of Time.... if you want to know read my blog here... THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.ListAll&friendID=67542835

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posted January 14, 2009 06:14 PM         

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I am 25 and I think I would like my body to stay 25. My mind is mature compared to most 25 year olds. So I want to stay where I am....

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posted January 16, 2009 05:09 PM         

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not to argue but just suggest, i think youthing (like,as they say, youth) is somewhat wasted on the young. how do you know at 25 if that is the apex?? actually they say a woman is at her peak in her 30s/40s...

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posted January 25, 2009 07:53 PM         

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posted February 09, 2009 03:13 PM         

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Ok according to the nintendo DSthe age 20 is the age the brain works at it's optimum.
If it's the best age mentally then it must be physically too... right?

So I'm aiming for 20 and some say I look about that though I'm 28 so if I can keep that up and not take it personally when people judge me because I look like a 20 year old with two young toddlers then it suits me fine. I won't worry about the illusory worries and mind blocks of a 20 year old, to me they only exist due to lack of experience so the more experience I have the less I will experience pitfalls. I will have the clear mental energy of a 20 year old with the physical body and energy of a 20 year old and the wisdom of an immortal.
I will have been a doctor, a lawyer, artist, unemployed,chef,dishwasher,traveller all at the young age of 600 whilst maintaining my20 year old demeanour!

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posted February 09, 2009 03:17 PM         

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alma_pisces thanks for the vid!

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posted February 10, 2009 10:35 AM           

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You talk about looking 20, but in days gone by a 20 year old would have looked more like a 28 year old looks now. They were not so big and fat then.

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posted February 10, 2009 01:06 PM           

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This thread reminds me of when my significantly older boss hit on me! He was an amazing, great guy and we got along famously, but you know. He was old!
He said to me, "I thought you said age was meaningless?!" and I said, "I'm not rejecting you because of your age, it's just apparent we're not mentally compatible because you are unable to maintain a mental image of yourself as any younger than your physical age." It was funny. As far as what age would I be? Well, I wouldn't limit characteristics of myself to age, it defeats the purpose. I'm just identifying with a worldwide opinion of what "this" age should look like. Right? So I'd say 18, because what the hell. Might as well do it all the way.
What if you had a disease, like cancer, at 18?

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posted February 10, 2009 03:46 PM         

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Malkhouf not sure what you mean... How would a 20 year old look like a 28 year old in days gone by if they were not so big and fat back then?

Ayumi... " What if you had a disease, like cancer, at 18?"
I think thats a question alot of people will ask.... I think you are thinking along the lines of Kat
"do i really want to go back to the hormonal problems of, say, my 30's? or the problems i had with substances in my 20's? how can i go back to just the good bits? isn't it all a holistic package, good and bad?? is being younger actually better??"

So if you had a dis-ease at around a certain age and you prgrammed your cells to regenerate to that age would that bring your body back to that dis-eased state?

I don't think so because in a holistic sense you woul also have to be in the same psychological mind set as you were then and that wouldn't be the case.

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posted February 11, 2009 10:18 AM           

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Look at a few pictures of young people in days gone by and you will see what I mean. People were physically smaller. They had less fat on their bodies so had sunken cheeks and eye sockets at a much earlier age. They perhaps worked out of doors more and had harder physical lives so developed wrinkles and lines earlier. Plus they would have considered it wicked and sinful to spend the time and money on cosmetic treatment that people do today.

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