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MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted November 28, 2011 07:01 AM Perhaps I should post this somewhere else, but I only post here. There is no getting away from the fact that the twentieth century saw the greatest number of peace movements and personal developement groups ever and it was also the most violent century ever. Looks like the twenty first century will be similar but worse. Can someone explain this? ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted November 28, 2011 01:45 PM I think we've had more violent centuries, but you make a brilliant observation. We often attract what we don't want. So, perhaps, the LOA is actually working. ------------------ "The stars which shone over Babylon and the stable in Bethlehem still shine as brightly over the Empire State Building and your front yard today. They perform their cycles with the same mathematical precision, and they will continue to affect each thing on earth, including man, as long as the earth exists." Linda Goodman IP: Logged
emitres Moderator Posts: 431 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted November 29, 2011 09:30 AM to be fair, we really have no way of knowing for sure if there were or were not peace mvt's in other centuries - the media brings these events to our attention... in the 15th century how extensive was media coverage? and i agree with Randall, i believe we've had more violent centuries but again, hard to say with absolute certainty... aside from that... for the Law to work, the energy has to be invested by the interested party to make manifest and even then sometimes we incorrectly perceive that the Law hasn't worked because we haven't gotten what we "wanted" not realizing that in effect we have been given what we need... two very different things sometimes... in reference to your more specific example - yes, there were a peace mvt's aplenty in the 20th century but how can we know for certain that every single entity within those groups was manifesting the same directed energy? i'm not speaking of the various degrees of energy given by individuals... people may come together within a group and not have the same motives... take a closer look at Egypt - overall, the protests were peaceful and in the end they succeeded in attaining what the majority manifested... but not everyone could have wanted this outcome - do we say that the Law didn't work because those individuals didn't receive what they wanted? i will agree with you maklhouf that, so far this 21st century has seen much violence... why? perhaps more people are unwittingly giving into the theory that there has always been violence,war and this will never change... how can something change if no one ever expects it to - more to the point,if no one ever wills it to change? ------------------ " Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted November 30, 2011 12:44 PM Good insights. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 01, 2011 12:05 PM We really don't know what the individual thoughts are behind some of the groups. It's probably complex--just like individual Karma is different from racial Karma, country Karma, etc. ------------------ "The stars which shone over Babylon and the stable in Bethlehem still shine as brightly over the Empire State Building and your front yard today. They perform their cycles with the same mathematical precision, and they will continue to affect each thing on earth, including man, as long as the earth exists." Linda Goodman IP: Logged
MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 02, 2011 01:43 PM Randall, I believe it is a documented fact that the twentieth century was the most violent in history. Emitres, the new age movement was HUGE in the 20th century. The emphasis was on positive thinking, healing the world etc. People were definitely believing that change could happen. And it didn�t. Not only that, but things have got worse. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted December 04, 2011 12:05 PM It's not that simple. It's like yin and yang, opposing forces co-exist. You can't have the world's most positive movement without the century's most violent times. That's how it is. For you personally, I suggest you focus on what you want so you can multiply the attracting energies of what you want (instead of what you fear). You believe it, or not, the LOA works. IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 04, 2011 12:43 PM LOA is more of an individual thing. If I use it to attract peace, then that is what I will personally experience...even in a world filled with war. The same goes for prospering in a bad economy. People have free-will. A group of people focusing on peace still can't violate the free-will of those who want war. But generationally, they can plant seeds to gradually herald in change...like civil rights in the 60s. IP: Logged
MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 05, 2011 07:21 AM It seems as if the conclusion is: we can't change the world, perhaps because there is no objective outer world. We can only change OUR world. I think I agree with that. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 09, 2011 10:20 AM But one person can make a difference in setting change in motion--like Martin Luther King, Jr. did for civil rights. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
emitres Moderator Posts: 431 From: Registered: Aug 2010	posted December 09, 2011 11:15 AM quote: Originally posted by MAKLHOUF: . Emitres, the new age movement was HUGE in the 20th century. The emphasis was on positive thinking, healing the world etc. People were definitely believing that change could happen. yes..within the confines of certain countries - huge in america, less huge in canada, most likely non-existant in any number of middle eastern states etc etc... i still disagree that the 20th century was the most violent - i think it's more accurate to say that it became incredibly efficient at making war due to technology... but if you look back at some of the "great" conquerering nations their's is a very bloody,very violent history... IP: Logged
MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 09, 2011 12:30 PM quote: Originally posted by emitres: yes..within the confines of certain countries - huge in america, less huge in canada, most likely non-existant in any number of middle eastern states etc Huge in America, yes, and it is America that is doing the violence. You do not have to look outside your own borders: just look at the dead Kennedys. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 10, 2011 09:22 AM I would say the time of the Roman Empire has us beat. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 10, 2011 12:17 PM The Romans had violent spectacles which lasted a short time, in which terrible cruelty was done to a few people. Now we have(mostly concealed)continual systemic violence. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4557 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted December 10, 2011 12:55 PM quote: Originally posted by MAKLHOUF: We can only change OUR world. I think I agree with that. Exactly how I see it! IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 10, 2011 01:32 PM No, I'm talking about the Romans conquering much of the world. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 10, 2011 01:58 PM They did not do it through the kind of violence we see nowadays. Many nations came peacefully. The Romans had no wish or means to commit genicide, as has regularly been done in modern times ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 11, 2011 02:00 PM Well, change begins from within. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
MAKLHOUF Knowflake Posts: 263 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 12, 2011 07:23 AM quote: Originally posted by Randall: But one person can make a difference in setting change in motion--like Martin Luther King, Jr. did for civil rights. MLK is a very good example. He gave out love and brotherhood and he attracted... murder. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 12, 2011 11:05 AM He expected to be murdered. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 13, 2011 10:04 AM Often, life gives you what you expect (not what you desire). ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
charmainec Moderator Posts: 4778 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 13, 2011 04:12 PM Genuine and intense desire can develope into manifestations ------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma. Linda Goodman IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 14, 2011 10:00 AM That's true...if it's focused. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 15, 2011 11:41 AM Attraction is about that--attracting. Often, what you chase will run from you. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19279 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009	posted December 16, 2011 12:14 PM IP: Logged

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