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posted October 07, 2016 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've read the book some 20 years ago lol

However I don't believe it's possible to be biologically immortal. Wear & tear. Of course it doesn't mean one shouldn't try :-)


I believe it is possible ever since I've read the book. Perhaps not for me, but for every healthy person, and for most ill persons too. We don't know much about the brain, and it is very possible it can assist to regeneration of the body. I actually met physically immortal people, so I know they exist. It is only a matter of time, I believe, untill this lifestyle would be spread all over the world.

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posted October 07, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The human body isn't like a machine, in that cells replenish themselves.

Indeed it is a most extraordinary machine.

The human body is like a machine, to my view. The human soul isn't. And it is the soul that operates that machine. But there are things the soul cannot do, like regenerating brain cells.

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posted October 07, 2016 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The human body isn't like a machine, in that cells replenish themselves.

you're replying to my wear and tear comment :-)

I was referring to the biological wear & tear which is called oxidative stress.

Not to mention if you get calcification of the pineal gland over 400 body processes are disrupted... fluoride is the culprit here

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posted October 08, 2016 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are artificial things that can be reversed.

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posted October 09, 2016 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Health wise, I mean.

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posted October 09, 2016 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Health wise sure, you can do many things. But cells cannot counterbalance the harmful effects of free radicals, you can supplement in antioxidants but it is still just a slow down rather than absolute.

However, perhaps if you :
breathed clean air
washed in mineral water
used only pure organic soap, shampoo , body lotion or skin care, no fluoride toothpaste
same for house cleaning products, wash powder, softener
eat raw clean organic food diet, no food additives, no sugar, no toxic aspartame or sugarine
no pharmaceuticals or having xrays, MRI, CT scans etc
wore only natural fabrics
lived far away from wifi, microwave towers and electricity
in a house made of wood
no car with stinky emissions
no flying on planes and no walking through those xray scanners

even then i'm not sure if its possible, since free radicals are natural by-products of ongoing biochemical reactions in the body, including ordinary metabolic processes and immune system responses.

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posted October 10, 2016 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Simply breathing oxygen creates free radicals. But the body creates its own way to deal with them. Life is a balance of destruction and regeneration. According to Deepak Chopra, antioxidants are worthless as supplements by the time they get digested, because they would have to be directly injected into cells to be effective.

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posted November 08, 2016 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Simply breathing oxygen creates free radicals. But the body creates its own way to deal with them. Life is a balance of destruction and regeneration. According to Deepak Chopra, antioxidants are worthless as supplements by the time they get digested, because they would have to be directly injected into cells to be effective.

Without going into a long lecture about body chemistry and biology, suffice to say that a body does not deal effectively with free radicals and certainly it's ability to do that is dependant on outside source 'appropriate nutrition' among other things. Our bodies are build from the same elements as the bodies of other animals, yet I dont know of any immortal elephant in existence.

I'm sorry, but our physical bodies are only a temporary residence. There is a zone behind the veil full of low vibration beings (demons, discarnate souls) that are so addicted to matter that they can't and wont move to other dimensions, watching our material world salivating, and they would want nothing else but to snatch a body and go for a ride. That should give clues about what vibration frequency that kind of thinking stimulates.

Let's just say that this New Age tale of immortality of physical body will have to do without me, on both grounds - the physical perishability (For you are dust, And to dust you shall return.) and more importantly on non-attachment to matter - vibration frequency.

As for antioxidants ...ehm, Deepak Chopra is no authority, I wonder how much he got paid to say this ridiculous thing. If his statement was true then you certainly have no hope getting any vitamins from food, unless you inject them directly into cells.... Vit C is an antioxidant and you get it from strawberries for example... Vit A (betacarotene) you get from Spirulina...why drink tomatoe juice to get Lycopene if Deepak says you need to inject it into your cells .... etc etc

The point is, nutritional supplements -cause thats what they are - need to be bio available which is the most natural form possible, and as with anything else some may work for some people and not for others because each organism is different - in terms of their health, correct cellular functions, DNA integrity, metabolic functions, absorption ability etc. For instance if your Vit B6 levels are low then you will not be able to absorb B12, if you low on Vit C you will have problem with iron levels and so on.


Here is a link to study "Antioxidant functions of vitamins. Vitamins E and C, beta-carotene, and other carotenoids."
A quote from synopsis: They are of importance in the process of aging. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1444060

Here is a good book on biokinetics of antioxidants http://store.elsevier.com/Natural- Antioxidants-and-Food-Quality-in-Atherosclerosis-and-Cancer-Prevention/J-T-Kumpulainen/isbn-9781855737945/
Peace man ! I wish everybody a long healthy life :-)

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posted November 09, 2016 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's true, Novabronte, that matter is ephemeral while spirit is eternal. Even the Earth won't exist forever. Nevertheless, the life of a person can be prolonged to the extent that relatively, it would be as if s\he was physically immortal. Because living hundreds or thousands of years without dying equals to that. People in that stage do not eat as we do, but are breatharian. Linda's teacher was appearing and disappearing before her eyes, which means his body became much lighter, by raising his frequency he could become invisible. Again, you may believe it or not. You said you read her book years ago. I understand she didn't convince you. Fine. I am not a scientist and cannot prove it scientifically. Linda wrote some interesting facts concerning it in her book, like the option to reverse the spirals of the cells, or the third and fourth sets of teeth that were found. As for me, I have already gotten my proof that such people exist.

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posted November 09, 2016 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries Ayelet ... maybe if Linda was still alive I would be convinced. But never say never, I am open to so many strange and mysterious things, that I'm willing to change my mind if I find some evidence of it.

In the meantime, I wish everyone a long healthy life :-)

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posted November 11, 2016 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathseeker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

Back 45 years and even back farther, it was taught in the public schools that the human body was designed to last forever. THAT WAS A GIVEN. That was the kind of information that was available when Linda Goodman was growing up. It was a part of her education. I was also taught by people growing up during her time that women could have children well into their seventies. During those times, women were already doing the unheard of, by today's standards. They were having children in their fifties. Fertility drugs were not available back then. So, what has changed? Education has changed, causing drastic changes in our awareness. so much so, that it affects us on the cellular level. A few years ago a new field of study emerged; or, as I prefer to look at it, a field of study was allowed to be shared with the public. It is called Neuroplasticity; the understanding that the brain can remodel and renew itself (to keep it simple). This is really not news for some. But WHAT IF we take that "new" info and begin to apply it to our cells and to our full body matrix? The possibilities suddenly become fantastic yet, within reach. When we understand from jump that we are continually interacting with our cells through our consciousness, we will be able to do some amazing things, immortality only being a small part of it all. So, if you saying you you not believe in immortality, you have pretty much shut yourselves down. It is all over for you. Even if you found that peach of immortality and decided to give it a good bite, your self programming will keep it from being of any benefit to you. If anything, you would get a terrible rash.

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posted November 13, 2016 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathseeker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somewhat a Case in Point:

I was suffering from an inflamed patella tendon of my right knee. I purchased a leg extension device to rehab it on my own. At the outset I had a conversation with the inflamed area. I informed the area that we never had any difficulties before and that there was no need for such a difficulty at this point in my life. I informed the area that I need it back as strong as it was before. The day following my first workout, I was running up the stairs without any pain at all. I followed up with only four more workouts over a ten week period. The affected area was completely healed. This happened over five years ago and I have not had one recurrence of inflammation. Nor have I done any leg extension exercise since then.

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Another Case in Point:

I had a client who, after suffering a TIA (minor stroke), was having difficulty using his left leg to go up the stairs. Through a specific exercise that helped him better coordinate his consciousness with movement, I gave him two right legs; i.e. I taught him how use the area of his consciousness that controlled his right leg to control his left leg. It worked very well. When I did this, the word "neuroplasticity" did not exist.

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posted November 13, 2016 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spontaneous healing befuddles science, but the body doesn't know it's impossible (I'm possible).

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posted November 13, 2016 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Another Case in Point:

I had a client who, after suffering a TIA (minor stroke), was having difficulty using his left leg to go up the stairs. Through a specific exercise that helped him better coordinate his consciousness with movement, I gave him two right legs; i.e. I taught him how use the area of his consciousness that controlled his right leg to control his left leg. It worked very well. When I did this, the word "neuroplasticity" did not exist.

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That's very remarkable!

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Spontaneous healing befuddles science, but the body doesn't know it's impossible (I'm possible).

Hello Randall,

If you can allow for spontaneous healing, then why not spontaneous immortality? As Arnold Schwarzenegger might say, "Lets befuddle the scientists some morr-ah!"


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posted November 17, 2016 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Somewhat a Case in Point:

I was suffering from an inflamed patella tendon of my right knee. I purchased a leg extension device to rehab it on my own. At the outset I had a conversation with the inflamed area. I informed the area that we never had any difficulties before and that there was no need for such a difficulty at this point in my life. I informed the area that I need it back as strong as it was before. The day following my first workout, I was running up the stairs without any pain at all. I followed up with only four more workouts over a ten week period. The affected area was completely healed. This happened over five years ago and I have not had one recurrence of inflammation. Nor have I done any leg extension exercise since then.

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interesting way of doing energy healing... you have fixed the frequency of that area :-)

A friend of mine had a case of a little boy who had really bad gangrene in his legs with impending amputation, they would sit down for an hour each day and imagine a great battle with knights on horses, gangrene being the dark knights and white blood cells being the white knights...it took just over six months and the doctors were speechless as there was no sign of gangrene...

there is always an underlying emotional cause that is resolved at the time so the healing can take place...

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Hello Randall,

If you can allow for spontaneous healing, then why not spontaneous immortality? As Arnold Schwarzenegger might say, "Lets befuddle the scientists some morr-ah!"


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posted December 07, 2016 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pathseeker     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Life is a balance of destruction and regeneration. According to Deepak Chopra, antioxidants are worthless as supplements by the time they get digested, because they would have to be directly injected into cells to be effective.

Hello,

In my book, aging begins when the ability of the body to repair itself is suddenly exceeded by the body's breakdown.

I tend to stay very far away from Deepak Chopra (I don't follow the herd). Let us pretend that he is right about antioxidants. I will still take them because I will be consciously introducing an antioxidative frequency to my body. At some point, I will not need to do so. Since I have not sourced the context of his statement, I can only surmise that he was truly referencing the power of consciousness in creating cellular change.

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posted February 05, 2017 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fair enough.

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posted February 06, 2017 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can buy that balance theory.

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posted February 07, 2017 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Homeostasis!

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posted March 28, 2017 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I take antioxidants.

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posted March 29, 2017 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They have other benefits.

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posted April 11, 2017 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This sub-forum is almost, if not actually, dying. Have people become unaware again of cells' regeneration possibilities?

I wonder whether there would come another author after Linda who would write about it, let alone achieve it.

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