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Ayelet
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posted August 13, 2016 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder how sex is related to physical immortality and regeneration. Linda wrote that in order to become fully physically immortal one had to unite with his/her twin self. I guess there is a reason for that, and it may be that there is a transformative effect to the the power of sexual unity with your twin self, or the fusion of the two halves into one. What do you think?

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posted August 14, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't meant to be taken literally. That's why she then said if you are immortal, you are guaranteed of meeting your other half eventually (because you will still be alive). She mean you aren't really fully immortal until you find each other (romantic more than literal).

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posted August 14, 2016 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But why aren't you fully immortal before meeting? What has romance to do with it?

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posted August 15, 2016 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, can the two twin selves be both physically immortal and never meet? And so be fully immortal? Why is that important at all that they meet?

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posted August 15, 2016 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She thought you couldn't be complete till you unite.

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posted August 15, 2016 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In an emotional way? How so? It is known that nothing can really separate twin selves. What's your theory?

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posted August 15, 2016 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought perhaps it has to do with tantra.

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posted August 16, 2016 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think she meant you literally can't be immortal without your other half, because she indicated that if you are immortal, you will find that person at some point in this lifetime (because you will be alive). But you won't be complete until you do.

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posted August 16, 2016 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She actually said that if you decide to be physically immortal you will find your other half at some point - not that if you turn into an immortal you'll achieve this. Even though you can argue about that. I remember her words regarding this issue. She, for example, was not yet physically immortal, yet she found her twin soul.

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posted August 17, 2016 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Finding your Twin doesn't make you immortal. The carousel will still turn. We are all just painted ponies going 'round and 'round and 'round. And your Twin could be an infant now or not even born yet at all. But if you are immortal, you will no doubt be reunited at some point in illusory time. I will look for her exact words, and we can examine them. If we all have to wait till we find our Twin before we can be immortal, then we are almost all doomed to die, and choosing immortality is a worthless decision.

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posted August 17, 2016 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda mentions this on Page 555 in Step 6: No sexual promiscuity.

"And you cannot become a full immortal until you have achieved union with the missing half of your Spirit, of the you-of-you. Just the decision to become immortal in itself guarantees that you'll find each other, at some point along the path."

Linda believed in Love above anything else. One of my favorite quotes of hers is: "Love is all." Living forever without her Twin would be hollow for her. But her Step 6 WASN'T "You have to unite with your Twin." It was "No sexual promiscuity." If one could not be immortal unless and until finding one's Twin, then the other 10 steps would be moot. But once choosing immortality, finding one's Twin is inevitable. And that's why we are here anyway...to find our way back to each other. Then illusory time loses all meaning, and we are complete. It doesn't mean we can't be immortal till that happens. But that's my interpretation. Yours can be a different one. And if you believe that, then it's correct for you.

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posted August 18, 2016 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You might be right. I am discussing this because I'm interested whether sex has any part at all in keeping us young, or whether it is actually an unnecessary process, or meant solely for the purpose of bringing children to the world.

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posted August 18, 2016 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think sex has a part in keeping us young, and its primary function is procreation...but Linda felt that sex (when combined with Love) and having children were both Spiritual pursuits.

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posted August 19, 2016 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, sex and health is a different matter entirely. Tantric is interesting.

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posted August 19, 2016 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If sex coming as a form of high love can be beneficial for one's health, doesn't it mean it is good for one's longevity too? Just a thought. Perhaps one can do without it altogether and live thousands of years..

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posted August 27, 2016 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And if abstinence is good for longevity... would you say a person can achieve physical immortality even when circumstances dictate his/her twin soul must die? And can one half be prepared while the other isn't, and so part in their fates?

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posted August 28, 2016 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe so.

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posted August 29, 2016 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Longevity isn't immortality.

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posted August 30, 2016 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If one lives hundreds or thousands of years in the same physical body, then it is; Time is an illusion, which realisation makes it possible to live that long.

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posted August 30, 2016 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everybody is immortal. Few choose to become physically so. It doesn't mean they'll never leave the Earth plane for good.

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posted September 12, 2016 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True.

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posted October 05, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Linda mentions this on Page 555 in Step 6: No sexual promiscuity.

"And you cannot become a full immortal until you have achieved union with the missing half of your Spirit, of the you-of-you. Just the decision to become immortal in itself guarantees that you'll find each other, at some point along the path."

Linda believed in Love above anything else. One of my favorite quotes of hers is: "Love is all." Living forever without her Twin would be hollow for her. But her Step 6 WASN'T "You have to unite with your Twin." It was "No sexual promiscuity." If one could not be immortal unless and until finding one's Twin, then the other 10 steps would be moot. But once choosing immortality, finding one's Twin is inevitable. And that's why we are here anyway...to find our way back to each other. Then illusory time loses all meaning, and we are complete. It doesn't mean we can't be immortal till that happens. But that's my interpretation. Yours can be a different one. And if you believe that, then it's correct for you.


I would interpret this differently.

Immortal is perhaps meant in a sense of not needing to incarnate again. Because once you have found your other half and join together, which can happen only if both have reached a level of completion (old souls), then your joining happens not so much physically but on a higher level of existence, and then there is no need to incarnate again and you progress to live eternally on a higher plane of existance. I dont know if Im expressing it in coherent way, because I am writing my energy feelings rather than thoughts, if that too makes sense :-)

With choosing immortality comes no doubt a certain level of soul growth, living in light and love, doing the right thing, being compassionate, rejecting the dark and so forth. Its not merely that I choose to be immortal like I choose to get a chocolate bar. Hence no promiscuity, but faith in the twin to come along. We travel from incarnation to incarnation, until both halves are ready for this union. Sometimes we incarnate just for the purpose of helping our twin grow in order to progress to that moment. This too may take more than one incarnation. Hence time has no meaning.

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posted October 06, 2016 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course one can resume incarnating and go on to the next level. But everyone is immortal. I was rather discussing those who chose to be physically so, i.e. who do not die a physical death. If you haven't heard about it, perhaps you'd like to read about it in "Linda Goodman's Star Signs".

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posted October 06, 2016 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Novabronte     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've read the book some 20 years ago lol

However I don't believe it's possible to be biologically immortal. Wear & tear. Of course it doesn't mean one shouldn't try :-)

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posted October 07, 2016 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The human body isn't like a machine, in that cells replenish themselves.

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