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Topic: Image-Ordain-Manifest
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pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted January 23, 2004 04:11 PM
 
Wow, how did I miss this?
I find it quite telling, devil's advocate or not, that A/V's take on the world around her can be summed up with this one sentance she said.....
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Personally,I've never done any harm with IOM(Image-Ordain-Manifest)and don't imagine I'd ever have cause to.
No, it is not the sentance itself, it is the pedestal she put herself on in the sentance....
IOM- then a description of the acronym.
Gee, is that what you meant by that? Really? Because is that not what the thread is called? The fact that you feel anyone reading this would need a description shows your superiority complex, therefore explains your subversive attitude to everyone responding to you.
By the way, it was not co-incidence that I described you as A/V- That means "AquaVenus", by the way.
If you didn't learn this in Kindergarten already, let me remind you.. To put others down in order to feel up doesn't work.
Cultivate conversations and debates on an equal level. To go in with your nose in he air is to miss out on the knowledge inherent in everything. By the way, Everyone can do this, it isn't a secret society, it is called being human , wishing and striving for things. Maybe the divine has a hand in it as well.
Maybe someone coined the phrase, but FYI ( For your information) It is old news.
Thanks for sharing! IP: Logged |
lioneye68
Knowflake Posts: 6062
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted January 23, 2004 05:22 PM
Otherwise know as creative visualization, right? Not to mention the phrase "If you can see it, you can achieve it!" "If you can dream it, you can become it!" the likes of which motivational speakers and Amway gurus' throw around all the time.
'The power of positive thinking' is another catch phrase that alludes to this concept.No, it's not new and it's no secret either. OH, another one "Careful what you wish for, because you just might get it" IP: Logged |
juniperb
Knowflake Posts: 6830
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted January 23, 2004 06:46 PM
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grayheart
Knowflake Posts: 215
From: Land O Love
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted January 23, 2004 10:14 PM
I have a different take. AquaVenus, is realtively new here. I get the feeling that comming here was in part accidental and in part intentional. Recent developements in AV's thinking and search for knowledge led AV here. Most of the post Av has put up have been inquisitory in nature, but at the same time, AV has taken the position of trying to draw attention to people for differetn reasons, the underlying part of which I have not yet deciphered. But I feel as though it is almost as much a test to see how far certain ideas can be taken before it starts to evoke a defensive response. Again I have not yet pieced together the full resoning, but I get the feeling that AquaVenus has a purpose behind all this. I am actually quite interested to see what happens next. IP: Logged |
grayheart
Knowflake Posts: 215
From: Land O Love
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted January 23, 2004 10:14 PM
I half wonder if AV is trying to see if there is anyone here who is "two-faced" so to speak. It almost seems like the purpose is to test those here and see if anyone responds in such a way as to lash out and attack by attempting to insult or berate instead of debate logically. I get the sense that this has been a minor experiment in psychology. Of course, maybe I am just reading too much into things. Either way, I find most of these topic to be interesting discussionsIP: Logged |
juniperb
Knowflake Posts: 6830
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted January 24, 2004 10:53 AM
grayheart, you are seeing  My take is divide and conquer. Why, I don`t know but thats been my insight. Yes, it is interesting to see how different people respond to the 'I have a secret & I`ll show you mine if you show me yours first  juniperb  ------------------
If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot IP: Logged |
trillian
Knowflake Posts: 4050
From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted January 24, 2004 06:50 PM
grayheart, that's an interesting perspective. But still...when new on a board, when you begin by antagonizing and insulting, by characterizing people's opinions as "inane and unfounded," is not an especially great way to begin making friends. One need only read the threads here to find if anyone is "two-faced." In fact, I would say that AV has risked representing HERSELF as two-faced, with her behavior. She's possibly alienated some of the most wonderful people on this board. Everyone deserves a second chance, so if things progress and develop, I too may be interested in watching. But to continue in the same vein, will only disinterest me and earn my disrespect. And hey, like Pid said...maybe we all have a secret forum with amazing formulae for changing the world, but maybe we're selective with whom we share it. Maybe WE are conducting a grand experiment.   IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
Knowflake Posts: 36
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Registered: Jan 2004
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posted January 26, 2004 12:01 PM
Wow.I'm like a deer in the headlights right now.I don't think I've been condescending or insulting at all. Did you all notice how when pidaua derided Nietzsche,I replied with nothing but respect for her individual opinion? And as for giving the words after the initials IOM,it was only in the interest of posting well.Good grief!IP: Logged |
Aphrodite
Knowflake Posts: 4992
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Registered: Feb 2002
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posted January 26, 2004 02:24 PM
"I have a secret & I`ll show you mine if you show me yours first." Juniperb I, for one, love Friedrich Nietzsche. There is a Nietzsche society in the UK that regularly publishes journals discussing his social theories. It's from him we get the bar joke/pick up line: I am a nihilist.   Okay, enough geek humor on a Monday morning. IP: Logged |
grayheart
Knowflake Posts: 215
From: Land O Love
Registered: Oct 2003
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posted January 26, 2004 03:48 PM
No one said you had been, the only mentions of insulting was when I was wondering if you were talking in such a way as to push the envelope and see if someone else would resort to such measure rather than respond in a logical fashion. And nowhere other than in my post did I see any reference to insult. I really hope you don't think that I was saying that you were insulting people, because I do not think you were. I think you were just trying to stir up a rational debate, and I have absolutely no problem with that. I enjoy a good debate IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted January 27, 2004 01:14 AM
It was me, actually. I alluded to the fact that she seemed quite up on herself and put down those who responded. It just always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I can't stand that condescension. Maybe it is just her and she doesn't realize it, which is fine, as I can't fault someone who doesn't know her basic nature is rude....
But I have to comment when I see it.... shine a light, if you will. I am fair, but I also see things as well. I would expect the same from anyone in any situation. Respect isn't a hard concept to grasp. I would think if Image Ordain Manifest is grasped, something as simple as basic respect would be fundamental.
*shrug*IP: Logged |
trillian
Knowflake Posts: 4050
From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted January 27, 2004 11:41 AM
Oh hey, that was me too.
Didn't care for the seemingly condescening manner of AV towards the lovely beings of light that we call Know-flakes here in LL. As pixel said, she may be unaware of her effect on others. So maybe we have presented ourselves with an opportunity for learning. I'm all for a good debate, I was born for academic arguments. But a good debate also includes the protocol of respect for your playmates. Further, there can be no debate when she who initiates refuses to say what exactly is being debated. AV refuses do divulge the details of that which she says she is able to do. That too can be construed as a bit condescending. So yeah, grayheart, that was me, too. IP: Logged |
trillian
Knowflake Posts: 4050
From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted January 27, 2004 04:43 PM
Anyway, maybe we can all start over fresh, with a new perspective. Maybe we all got off on the wrong foot...with loads of misunderstandings all around. IP: Logged |
pidaua
Knowflake Posts: 7314
From: Schweinfurt to Grafenwoehr all within 6 months LOL
Registered: May 2002
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posted January 27, 2004 08:51 PM
I derided Nietzsche? Yes, I suppose I did AquaVenus, since he is the poster child for angry, coveting envy. Yes, you are right. But, as humans, as philosophers are we not allowed to discuss, even with some venom, the differences between those very people that helped shaped the world? Is it not a sad time when we cannot do such things? How do we learn if there is no challenge?
How boring would life be if we all agreed? What is all the great artists of the world painted in the same style.
I find you to be one of those typical students of philosophy that has closed their minds to so many other thoughts, only to declare their minds are so advanced and open. I had friends like you. That LOVED Nietzsche with a passion, but failed to see his own turmoil. Don't you think he would have been different had life's circumstances been kinds to him? Would life be boring if we all believed Nietzsche's word to be gospel? IP: Logged |
thalia
Knowflake Posts: 103
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Registered: Jan 2002
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posted January 27, 2004 11:18 PM
Image... Ordain... Manifest...It's all there in the phrase, isn't it? Happy manifesting to all, for the greatest good of all.  IP: Logged |
AquaVenus
Knowflake Posts: 36
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Registered: Jan 2004
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posted February 02, 2004 10:43 AM
Hey,I didn't say I had a problem with Pidaua's deriding nietzsche.But deride she did...Must I come up with a euphemism for every word in English to keep everyone smiling? As for starting fresh,I think that's an excellent idea.The topic of my cyber-manners is getting stale and it's certainly not what I came here to discuss.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted March 02, 2004 02:02 AM
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