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Xelena Ben
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posted June 11, 2004 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xelena Ben     Edit/Delete Message
you guys all have fascinating stories. thanks so much for sharing them.

juniperb

for those of you interested, here're two sites for psychics that come highly recommended http://www.carolelynne.com
http://www.transformbeliefs.com/pages/560186/index.htm

i've only had one meeting with a psychic years ago and i wasn't too impressed. she told me "i see celtic symbols in your aura" and i said "you mean like the ones on the necklace i'm wearing?"

i can relate to feeling like i was male in most of my "other" lives. a psychic told a friend of mine that this is her first incarnation as a woman, and that this is happening now because women finally have power! very interesting...

i also have the fear of drowning thing. i was so afraid at one point when i was young that my parents made me take swimming lessons at the local Y. it was pure torture. the smell of chlorine still makes me ill. i love the water, live by the ocean, and adore sailing, but i get panic attacks in the deep. so sad.

proxieme - you and jason have such a beautiful story. from seeing the pictures you've posted i feel very blessed to be witness to this lifetime you're making together. meghan is one lucky little elf.

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juniperb
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posted June 11, 2004 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
A quick thought before I dash off to work.

I grew up on the Great Lakes and could swim before I could walk. I lived for the water and was a frog

When I reached a certain age, I began to fear the water and started having dreams of drowning. The thought is, with so many fearing drowning, could we be Atlantians who perished in it`s destruction? A dim soul memory of that time?

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Special
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posted June 11, 2004 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Hey.. That could be true.

Has anyone had the twenty past - twenty to experience recently?

For those who aren't sure what I mean, Linda explains it in Star Signs. It's the moment when a group of people go quiet - like an uncomfortable silence / natural break - without the discomfort. Noone speaks for a few moments and you'll almost always find it's twenty past or twenty to, the hour. A respectful moment of silence which the 'old souls' of Atlanta subconciously show for the time Atlantis fell, within those 20 mins

I've not had it in the last year that i can recall. The last time I did was two years ago

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posted June 11, 2004 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Xelena Ben.. thanks for the web links!

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posted June 11, 2004 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Just bought a lovely Isis and Osiris necklace from Mr Mo's stall at Piccadilly Market outside St James's church, London. It's a beautiful silver pendant and feel so.. 'together'? with it on. Since our lovely train of emotional thought about past lives, I thought I'd follow the instincts that I have for the love of Egypt. Sure enough on the last stall I came to before the made dash back from lunch break - there it was waiting for me!

Have a lovely weekend guys, will probably borrow my housemate's laptop and log when I get a chance!

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alchemiest
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posted June 12, 2004 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alchemiest     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, you guys all have amazing experiences!

BloodRedMoon, the connection with WW2 is hard to explain. It's just like a sort of knowing, and it is extremely negative. I have had a few experiences about it, but nothing really telling me what I was at that time. For example, a particularly disturbing occurence happened just a few months ago, in February, and it left me feeling pretty... well, confused. You know those weird half-asleep half-awake moments that people have? Well, it was one of those. And for me, those are the times when I'm most receptive to things around me, if that makes any sense. And I saw myself in this place that looked like a dingy train station and there was smoke and the sun was shining brightly and that just made it worse because there was such an air of suffering about the place. There were people crying and wailing, and there were people lying down and I knew they were dead because I could see blood coming out of them, but it all seemed so NORMAL! I knew it was in Europe, but it wasn't Germany, but we were Germans because we were speaking in German and I was wearing a uniform because I could feel my boots and I had a gun. And there were these dirty people who we were hitting and shouting at, trying to get them into the trains, but they were scared and there was so much confusion, and all I could think of was 'The damn pieces of **** are making our jobs so hard. Why won't they just go IN?' And I was yelling at them, and I hit this one man on the head with the butt of my rifle. I saw a child, I couldn't tell if it was a boy or a girl, and it was crying on the platform, and I just grabbed it and THREW it into the compartment! They weren't even compartments, no seats or anything, just these empty boxes! And I saw some of my friends, soldiers just like me, who had uniforms on and there were red swastikas on them, so I knew we were nazis. They were standing by the railing, smoking, laughing, and I went to join them. We were joking about the human cattle we were putting on the trains- we were talking about them as if they weren't even HUMAN! And all through this, part of me was just watching all of this with horror, and the part of me that was this man was ENJOYING this suffering! I was enjoying INFLICTING suffering!!! I thought it was my RIGHT! I didn't even see it as wrong!!!! You could see people getting seperated, mothers and children screaming, and I WAS LAUGHING AT IT ALL! Someone started shooting into the seething mass of people, and you could hear the screams and see the blood and see bodies falling, but we just kept piling them in. I was thinking, 'God, these are animals' and I went back to try and restore order. I started hitting at people, yelling at them to get in line, to try to act like the humans they weren't. And there was no pity in me, just a coldness and a cynical amusement. I didn't CARE that these were people that were dying. They weren't people to me. At this point, I 'woke up' so that was the end of the 'dream' except it was too vivid to be a dream, and I could still FEEL THOSE FEELINGS! At the same time I was horrified at myself. Actually nauseated. I didn't even know what to think, I was just lying there, literally in shock. I'm not saying that's proof of anything, but after that, I am more convinced than ever that I was directly involved in the atrocities of nazi activities. Whenever the topic of WW2 comes up, I just get like, this inner resonance with it, and I feel like, well, everyone says it was all brainwashing, but it was so easy to BELIEVE, and that belief made us feel so GOOD! Like, I feel an identification with the germans that I can't understand and that scares me more than a little. As a person today, I have always had the tendency to make myself the flogging post for any issue. I try to shift problems or repercussions towards myself so that other people will not have to suffer them, which really doens't help matters in the larger scheme of things, but it feels like something I just should do. When I stand up for myself, I have always felt guilty, as if I am taking something away from someone else that they are entitled to, be it something tangible or simply whatever satisfaction they get from putting me down. This is totally not healthy, but I still need to overcome this. I feel like this characteristic of mine has something to do with the WW2 lifetime.

One of our family friends is a clairvoyant, and she says that all your past lives have left impressions in your aura, so you can see them there. She said that my mother and I have shared several, several lives together, which I wholeheartedly believe. I think we were seperated violently in a past life, probably with her as my parent or at least a parent figure, because I recall being absolutely terrified of her leaving me or something happening to her, even when I was eight or nine years old.

Proxieme, your past life recollections are so beautiful. And your current life seems to be filled with magic as well!

okey, this post is long, and it has me kind of down after typing out all that about that stupid dream. Meh, I'm going to go to bed now and dream something NICE!!! No guns, no soldiers!


Good night

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pixelpixie
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posted June 12, 2004 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, Alchemist, that was incredible.
What a strange thing to be infused with, because you are obviously not like that now. I know what you mean about 'sympathising' with something that isn't inherently 'you.' You just understand this on some instinctive level, without thought.
Good for you to have the courage to talk about this past life experience. It is not pleasant, but you handle it well.

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Yang
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posted June 12, 2004 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Special

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BloodRedMoon
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posted June 13, 2004 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
wow, alchemiest. That is a strong vision! I have to give you credit for even being able to talk about it. Do you think about it often during typical waking life?

When it hit me a year or so ago that I was German during WWII I spent a week as a nervous wreck that cried at the drop of a hat.

I still get a little weird talking about it on message boards, though. It's like sometimes my fingers just stop moving when I want to type on and on about it.

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Special
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posted June 13, 2004 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Cool Yang, hope you get some luck with it! With reading such clear experiences, such as alchemiest's I long to Know my own with such clarity too.

(Oh wait there, watching the England-France game and England just scored at 38mins!)

alchemiest, that entry is amazing. I'm enthralled that I can relate to every post so far. I know what you mean by whole feeling guilty about standing up for myself thing! Something I've never confronted publicly because I thought that was part of my character. I have an aggravating tendancy to see all viewpoints in arguments which makes look as though I'm sitting on the fence, and feel I need to put people before me always, even though I'm yelling at myself I can't help it!

What you said about your mother reminded me about something similar with my father.. I know most children panic at some stage about their parents dying, but I went through a stage of reaaally worrying about my father, like I'd lost him before and don't want it to happen again.

Really need to explore how I lived before.

BloodRedMoon, you're experience sounds heavy too. Would you be able to post any of it if it's not too hard? I love your signature by the way

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted June 13, 2004 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sun_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I often feel a strange kinship with Ancient Egpyt. I remember when I was younger studying it in Primary and thinking "I LOVE cats!!" (Not much I know!!)
But did u guys know that some people believe they come from certain planets, like my Uncle went to this Psychic in Wales and he told him he is from the planet Plaides...! Interesting hey!!
Any1else had that experience??

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Special
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posted June 14, 2004 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Sun_Scorpion.. ditto with the Ancient Egypt thing. Hence, me now being surgically attached to the Isis and Osiris necklace that found me.

All I remember about other planets is Linda mentioning that we go to them in astral visitation, although they were planets we know of like Pluto / Jupiter etc.

Would be cool if anyone has info on other planets though!


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alchemiest
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posted June 14, 2004 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alchemiest     Edit/Delete Message
hey guys
Thanks, PixelPixie, Special and BloodRedMoon for the positive comments. BloodRedMoon, in response to how this affects my everyday living, actually, I feel like I have kind of blocked it from my everyday thinking if you know what I mean. But I have noticed that I have been getting a lot more depressed since I had the dream (today is a fine example). Thanks everyone for thinking that it was brave to post that post, but I think I was able to do so mainly because I still kind of detach myself from it. I totally understand BloodRedMoon's hesitance to post it on here, because it sounds like you have taken responsibility for what happened at that time, so bringing it up for you would be infinitely more painful than it was for me, since I still feel like I am coming to terms with it.
The 'side-effects' of that life-
After the dream, I have found myself questioning MYSELF a LOT!
My feelings of self-worth have deteriorated and fluctuate a lot, so I get melancholy pretty often, and I can't pinpoint the reason for it.
I've become a lot more introverted than before, a lot quieter around other people especially those I haven't met before. I'm always afraid of doing something wrong, saying something wrong, and so I don't say anything at all. So, they end up thinking I am withdrawn, quiet, etc.
Can't stand any sort of blood/violence. Contradictorily, I have a quick temper (short fuse, short duration, blows over real fast and I can never stay angry, but it is a quick temper nevertheless) and although I have never been violent when I am angry, I have for as long as I can remember always been terrified of physically hurting people in a fit od rage. I've never had the urge to hurt anyone or lash out physically when angry, but just the fear of wanting to do that, if that makes any sense.

An observation I have made, and please understand that this is not in any way to try and justify the holocaust, but is simply somehting I have seen about people in general. I have noticed that human nature for the most part seems to follow the rule that any judgement made that puts an individual or group of individuals in a light superior to their fellow man is quickly accepted and believed, while the opposite is not. This was seen everywhere, from the US when slavery was still alive (and for some time after that as well) to the far east where countries like India practiced the caste system. So, when you had a man come into Germany and persuasively tell the german people that they were the 'masters of the world' you had a bunch of people who were already smarting from one defeat grasp onto this idea for grim life and believe in it so much that they saw no wrong in attacking other people who they had been told and who they wholeheartedly believed were inferior. Was this wrong? Wholeheartedly, yes. Aviodable? Yes yes yes a thousand times! To both questions! And yet, it happened. I feel like this tendency of people to constantly tey and put themselves above each other is a partial explanation of what geared their minds.

Special, I know what you mean about seeing all viewpoints of an argument and appearing to just be, as you put it, 'sitting on the fence'. That's a big hurdle for me too. I mean, observations are one thing, and they're good, but one should be able to put them forward in a timely manner as well. I don't. =/

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posted June 14, 2004 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Karma is facinating. alchemiest your past life seems to haul up harsh lessons about humanity you've been forced to face Linda always said that karma is eased through understanding and acceptance. Maybe this is a blessing in disguise in the fact that you know why you're experiencing certain difficulties. It probably would have been baffling / overwhelming otherwise. It is for me sometimes!

Indeed a timely manner is what I need too.. Perhaps it comes from a deep disagreement with time itself!

Something I found on the web. If all else fails, you can spend $33 to resolve karma! http://www.healingholograms.com/svhclearing.htm

Don't ponder on the depressions alchemiest I wish for your mind to be more at ease. At least airing what's bothering you helps, and understanding comes from all angles / angels here

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BloodRedMoon
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posted June 14, 2004 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Special ~

If you go to the dream forum and look under my old login name posts you'll see TONS of dreams I've had about it. My old name was WychOfAvalon. Hrmmm lemme find a couple quick links for you.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000522.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000421.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000337.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum15/HTML/000294.html

etc,etc,etc

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proxieme
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alchemiest - Eh, don't be fooled.
My life's has/has had plenty of speedbumps, I just try not to focus on them.
Ex: While Jase and I have a great relationship, we do both also have Scorp Asc and a composite Scorp Asc...you better believe we fight.
And I'm getting a little batty from not currently working.

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alchemiest
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posted June 14, 2004 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alchemiest     Edit/Delete Message
Proxieme, LOL! I hear ya on the speedbumps, but let's hear it for magic too!

PS: TINK, your life as a monk sounds so peaceful!!!

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alchemiest
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posted June 14, 2004 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alchemiest     Edit/Delete Message
Special, you're special You just made me feel better

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posted June 15, 2004 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Ahh bless you.. I'm glad

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posted June 15, 2004 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
BloodRedMoon, thanks for the links

How intruiging your dreams / visions are. They really are deep, sometimes shocking, I relate to the feeling of when I have a dream similar to some of yours. For example, the hospital one you had in 'creepy'. I've had similar ones when I'm going through a horrific experience, but I'm shockingly accustomed to it, and there's a distance from the experience; but a stark memory that somehow lingers over me when I wake too.

The first link I read reminded me of Diane Duane's book 'So you want to be a Wizard?' I wonder if anyone else read that. Surreal, believeable.. like the world of dreams!

Also, in a different dream you mentioned you felt as if you're floating beforehand, and felt a tingling sensation in your leg? I've had that too - I mentioned strange occurances when I've 'slept' in a couple of Gia's threads I think, about visitations on Free-For-All. It's very strange, like I'm awake, but floating, sometimes I'm aware of falling back to my physical body with a bump. However, I get unpleasant visitations from a presence sometimes which is unexplainable at the moment.

Anyway, must get on and read your drafts, aswell as the responses; you should publish these!

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posted June 15, 2004 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nackie     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting thread! Reincarnation is a fascinating topic.

I believe I lived in England as a "gentlewoman", middle of the 19th Century. As a child I would lie in bed at night and see this scene in my eyes, with me and my family at the dinner table and as I layed there in my bed, I felt such a sense of being lost in the world, being in the wrong time. We lived in an old house with those big iron heating grates on the wall (wrought iron--you know the ones where there are heat vents behind them, but they mesaure about 15x15 inches..., you could open them up in get into the vent). I used to think that I could go through that vent in my room and get back to my family. I was CONVINCED that I could! I was so sad that they didn't seem to miss me and here I was wanting nothing more in life than to be at the table with them. It was a calm scene with quiet laughing.

I still have a sense of being in the wrong era, but it's gotten a lot better. I guess I've resigned to this life

I also have an incredible affinity to ancient Egypt, Greece, Rome and Spain. I've been to Spain a few times in the the last few years and each time is a feeling like I'm coming home. It feels so GOOD to be there, and right. I was at Pompeii last year and I didn't want to leave lol, although I don't believe that I lived there, the whole set up was typical for that period and it felt so familiar. When I'm at these kinds of places, my heart races and it is hard to breath. Sometimes I get that same feeling as a kid "SOMEWHERE here is the door back!"

I also find it interesting that I have NO affinity what so ever for some cultures. History/Lit. and Civ. was a major part of my studies (linguistical anthropology), and somethings just enthralled me (Sumatra, the story of Gilgamesh) and some things bored me to tears (Canadian history and literature--and me a Canadian!) I have absolutely no interest in the two WWs, although I married a German and live in Germany. I feel a general horror for what happened to the Jews, Pollacks, Tchechs and all the other people (we mussn't forget that it wasn't ONLY Jews), but it's a feeling for me like during the Spanish Inquisition--horrifying but not really real to me and also not enthralling as a history topic. I would much rather learn about Egypt, Romans and Greeks, Mythology, the Maurers and Arabs in Spain etc. My husband however is fascinated by WWII, devours everything on the subject and is very well read. I don't know if that is a hand-down from growing up with that legacy or if he was somehow involved with WWII, in some capacity or another.

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Yang
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posted June 15, 2004 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I have just replied to Sthenri post of Sag,virgo,pisces moon in the Astrology forum.I just realised that I have had snippets of been a monk possibly in a past life?If so,that would explain why I have thought of monks and their life every so often.

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posted June 15, 2004 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Yang, cool eh?

Did anything come to mind that you can describe?

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posted June 15, 2004 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alchemiest     Edit/Delete Message
Wah! BloodRedMoon, I think you were right!!! I shouldn't have written about that dream online, because I started brooding on it and now I feel ick!

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posted June 16, 2004 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Special     Edit/Delete Message
What dream?

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