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aqua
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From: dreamland
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posted July 18, 2004 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
Did you know that a flight number from one of the planes that hit one
of the two WTC towers on 9/11 was Q33N. In Notepad / WordPad or MS
Word, type in that flight number i.e Q33N. Increase the font size to
72 Change the font to Wingdings 1 ...... u will be amazed by the
findings!!!....................... It Itself tells the story of
destruction of twin tower and pentagon!!!!!!!!!!!

IS IT COINCIDENCE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OR WHAT?

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26taurus
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posted July 18, 2004 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Whhooooaaa! I just did it.
Are you sure that was the number of the plane? How do you know? That was freaky.

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Rainbow~
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From: The Little River Indian Reservation
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posted July 18, 2004 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
eeeeeeeeeeee

That is pretty creepy, alright!

I'm like 26...I'm wondering if that was really the flight number and where you learned of this....

Love,
Rainbow

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lalalinda
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From: nevada
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posted July 18, 2004 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
I'm totally lost
someone just explain it to me please
(I am seriously computer challenged)

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Rainbow~
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From: The Little River Indian Reservation
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posted July 18, 2004 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
I'll try....

1. Bring Word Pad up on your screen.

2. You must change the existing font to wingdings by clicking on that littie arrow on the right side of the letters already in the box (it may say "Times New Roman," or something like that)...that will bring up all the font types available to you (wingdings is near the bottom)You need to put your cursor(mouse) over wingdings until the little blue ribbon thingy covers it...then click....

wingdings will appear on the box at the top of the page, replacing what was already in there....

3. Now in the little box that says 10 do the same thing - except scroll down to 72 and click when the lil blue ribbon covers it..72 should now have replaced 10 in that box.

4. type in exactly.....Q33N....("Q" and "N" are in caps or upper case....}

Hope this helps....

Rainbow

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trillian
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From: The Boundless
Registered: Mar 2003

posted July 18, 2004 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry guys, there was NO flight of that number on 9/11. Just another internet hoax. Those flights have become famous, and infamous, American Airlines Flight number 11 and number 175.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/wingding.htm

Legend: Typing particular letter combinations into Microsoft Word using Wingdings and Webdings fonts produces some eerie results.


Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2001]


1. open MS word
2. type "NYC" in uppercase letters
3. change the font size to 72
4. change the font to webdings
5. change the font to wingdings

Apparently "q33ny" - supposed to be the flight number of one of the crashed planes - gives an aeroplane, two buildings, a skull and crossbones and the star of david. Again, no comment, although whether this is in fact the number of one of the planes seems unlikely.

I've heard a few people suggesting that this is a sign that Microsoft were involved in the terrorist attack.


Origins: The
first set of instructions is a gimmick which has been known for years: Typing the letters NYC using the Webdings font in Microsoft Word (or similar application) produces, as shown below, an image of an eye, a heart, and a city skyline, which some people read as "I love New York" (although the last image could really be any big city skyline). Switching to the WingDings font produces an image of a skull and crossbones, a Star of David, and a thumbs-up symbol, read by some conspiracy-minded folks as a symbolic approval of the killing of Jews.

The coincidental arrangment of these symbols (and an accompanying conspiracy theory) was noted as far back as 1992 in a New York Post article:


ANTI-JEWISH CODE LURKS IN POPULAR SOFTWARE
One of the world's best-selling computer programs contains a secret anti-Semitic message apparently urging death to Jews in New York City.

A computer consultant discovered the diabolic message while installing Microsoft's new Windows 3.1 software for a client yesterday.

The consultant was testing a mailing-address use of the program when he noticed the letters "NYC" had been replaced by a hateful message - a skull and crossbones, the Star of David and an approving thumbs-up symbol.

Microsoft strongly denies any hidden message. Others disagree.

"There's no way it could be a random coincidence," said Brian Young, a friend of the consultant, who does not wish to be named.

"It's pretty scary. I was pretty shocked by the whole thing."

Computer owners who use Microsoft Excel, Microsoft Word or any other Microsoft program containing a print font named "Wingdings" can duplicate the anti-Semitic message by typing the letters "NYC" on their screen.

Microsoft said "Wingdings" was designed by Bigelow and Holmes, an outside vendor, and denied that Microsoft intentionally designed the secret message.

Prof. Charles Bigelow confirmed that his company provided the symbols, but insisted that Microsoft made the final "mapping" decisions assigning his symbols to specific keys on the keyboard.

But a senior Microsoft spokesman said the charge that the fonts contain a hidden message is "outrageous."

"It's like saying that if you randomly type out characters on a keyboard to spell 'Satan', you can do that, but it's incredible to say that there's anti-Semitism in Microsoft or one of its vendors," said Charles Hemingway.

But Young, who discussed the matter with other computer consultants, isn't so sure it's just a coincidence.

The "Wingdings" font contains no letters - just 255 symbols.

Young calculated the odds of three letters of the alphabet being combined with 255 symbols, and said he found that the odds of obtaining the message were less than one in a trillion.

"It's mind-blowing," said Young. "Somebody's responsible for this. This is very offensive."

"I found it hard to believe some of the stories about the resurgence of Nazi sympathizers - but this puts things back into perspective."

Here is Microsoft's official statement on the issue:


We can certainly understand how people would respond with some shock to this apparent issue. We did too when it first came up nine years ago and we investigated it thoroughly in partnership with the Anti-Defamation League. The conclusion was that the sequence in the Wingdings character set is coincidental and that there was no malicious intent. In fact, it impacted several software companies at the time and continues to do so. Unfortunately, there was not an easy way to fix the problem. We understand that this requires explanation.
At the simplest level, wingdings and webdings are much like an alphabet of characters and provide thousands of potential combinations from which a person could choose. Changing the character set would create an impact of unknown scale on existing data and code using the affected font. Again, using the example of the alphabet, what would happen to existing documents and applications if we switched around a handful of letters? The likely result is that we would create significant issues for people, cause some unintended humorous moments and several offensive ones. For that reason Wingdings has been left unaltered since its inception.

The last "coincidence" is strictly a manufactured one. Although typing the characters "Q33NY" using the Wingdings font does produce the string of images shown below (an airplane, two pieces of paper that sort of resemble buildings, a skull and crossbones, and a Star of David), there was no flight "Q33NY" involved in the terrorist attack on New York City (the two flights who planes were crashed into the building were American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175), nor does that string correspond to any airplane's tail number or any airline's flight number.

The numerous suggestions about what 'Q33' really does refer to (everything from a New York bus route to a verse from the Quran) merely highlight how easy it is to find significance in anything, meaningful or not.


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Rainbow~
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From: The Little River Indian Reservation
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posted July 18, 2004 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian....no need to be sorry.....

Glad you exposed the hoax....

I kinda felt it might be....

....someone went to a lot of trouble to think this one up, huh?...*sigh*

Love,
Rainbow

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Harpyr
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From: land of the midnight sun
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posted July 18, 2004 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
whoa.. that whole NYC anti-semitic conspiracy thing is interesting. I've never heard that one before.

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aqua
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From: dreamland
Registered: Jan 2004

posted July 18, 2004 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
well i just got an e mail.and i though to share it with u.i do not know its history

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dthanh23
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From: hcm
Registered: Sep 2005

posted September 15, 2005 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dthanh23     Edit/Delete Message
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Peri
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From: Kyiv, Ukraine
Registered: Dec 2003

posted September 16, 2005 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
increase the font size to 72 Change the font to Wingdings 1

Lol, now try and do the same thing with your name!

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aqua
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From: dreamland
Registered: Jan 2004

posted September 17, 2005 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
my real name or aqua?

well, aqua gives two hands showing victory a plane and a cross.

i did'nt get the meaning.

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aqua
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From: dreamland
Registered: Jan 2004

posted September 17, 2005 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
yep i very much agree with the fact trillian made.

i almost forgot that i posted a topic on this.

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