posted August 08, 2004 05:50 PM         

innocent?!?

posted August 08, 2004 05:56 PM         

You said: Pid a butch? Hardly, I don't see it hon.

I didn't ask you if you saw it, dearie.

posted August 08, 2004 05:59 PM         

Welcome back Shizuka, it`s been a long time

posted August 08, 2004 06:12 PM         

Nice to meet you. It has been a long time, and some things never change

Here's a joke I heard recently:

Said one leper to the other leper:

"Your skin looks fine to me!"

posted August 08, 2004 06:35 PM         

Have you SEEN a picture of me? Why don't you look at the LL photoshop and then make your insane analysis.

I am about as far from Butch as one can get, but I DO stand up for myself and for others. I DO work in a mans world and the MEN have NEVER thought of me as anything less than female...

It sounds like YOU have sexuality issues that must be addressed.

Oh but wait... you have been here before and it is obvious you are hiding behind another name. So you didn't like what I said to you ...obviously I put you in your place a few times and strong women must scare you..I am sure you get off playing the "scared wittle female role that caaan't do annnnything without a strong man". LOL...yeah, whatever... in any case, I am GLAD that I get under your skin. If you want to think of me as Butch..lol..then go right ahead. I am VERY secure with my sexuality.

Trillian,

Thanks for the kind words. I think the world of you as well.

posted August 08, 2004 07:11 PM         

I don't have to look at your picture to know what you are.

You said some very bad things about Daf. What don't you stand up for yourself and address that instead of wasting time talking to me?

posted August 08, 2004 07:22 PM         

I have seen your picture though piduau. You have absolutely lovely hair. People with American Indian blood always seem to make out like bandits in this area. It's really not fair. You look rather tall. Are you tall? A saggie thing I bet.

posted August 08, 2004 07:57 PM         

Peace

now, let us talk about the picture of Paras with blue hair...would you please post it.
What color blue? Did you have to bleach and then dye or do you have dark hair and it just gave it a blue hue? dying to know here.

posted August 08, 2004 08:17 PM         

Paras: Please explain this:

(Pidua, you bashed such "altruism" from me in the past, go ahead and do it again if you feel like it. I forgive you in advance this time, ok?) Your entire post is wandering, meandering, reckless, poorly thought out, insulting, and contradictory. Are you sure you made that post? Maybe it was the Miller talking.

You insinuated that I was under the influence of "Miller" Either that or while you were addressing me you changed course and ended the paragraph with a dig at Daf. Please clarify.

Hmmm the casual sex comment:

" I know how you feel, but it goes a bit deeper with me. I remember a Lindaland before YOU, dafreman. More importantly, I remember a Lindaland before Miller and Vodka and Merlot and Corona and Hefeweizen, before casual-sex obssessed Knowflakes, when 99% of what was discussed here was spiritual. So, if you want to pine for Lindaland's glorious past, you will have to get in line. Waaay behind me.

I beg you all, stop poisoning your bodies, minds, and Spirits with alcohol. Treat sex as the sacred demonstration of Love that it is. Don't direct your anger at me; transmute it to useful energy and use it to 'combat' the negative habits of our world --like stupidity, dishonesty, and insult."

Did you just direct that towards the air? No you directed at PEOPLE here. Now, I already dealt with the way you made people feel about their lifestyle in another thread. You make statements, such as the one above, and then you expect no one to say anything, or when we do (such as Myself) then you get your panties tied up in a wad.

You remember a time when everything was 99% spiritual and a time before Miller / Vodka etc.. hmmm, paras, I can name at least 4 people that have a direct connection to those things. I myself brought up hefeweizen, daf brought up miller, Bloodredmoon brought up Vodka. So in essence, you are saying before we came here..under the influence (or people like us) this site was full of peace, harmony and spirituality. Now, I have been here for a couple of years and have seen the tied go from one to the other. Sometimes people talk about Sex, sometimes they talk about drugs, sometimes they talk about God. For some reason, you have deemed yourself you be the person that must bring back spirituality.

I am not the only person here that has deemed you a fraud. There have been several others, you have just chosen to continue to do battle with me. When you refer to me, when you shout out to me, yes I will respond. That is my nature.

I don't lose sleep over you, I don't think of you other than when I see something posted in my general direction, or as I said about people that I care about. You do not hurt me any more than a fly hurts me by buzzing around my head.

It may seem like a falsity that I can separate certain things from bothering me. Such as if a fellow Knowflake HATES my political leanings and I detest theirs, that I can still look at them without contempt. TO me that is life and life would suck if I only chose to be civil to people I deemed as worthy. SO many people still have wonderful attributes even if we do not agree on things.

Some people I would never consider as friends, but you know what, if ANYONE from here came to me with a problem. If ANYONE here e-mailed me and needed help, I wouldn't hesitate. I would do what I could and not think twice. Even for you and I don't even care for you LOL...

And no, I would never smile at you in the living room and snarl at you in the kitchen, you would NEVER be invited into my inner sanctum- called my house. LOL...

Keep trying....

Tink,

I am not 100% sure who Shizuka is, but I do have a very good idea. For one thing she only comes out and changes names when it comes to insulting someone like myself or jwhop. Second, it has been her (or his) M.O to insult me on a personal basis when I am going toe to toe with another.

I have never been called Butch or questioned about being a woman, with the exception of a couple of time HERE on LL by a select (1 or 2) person / people. I am sure it will all come out in the wash.

It was a bit of a joke how Shizuka back peddled into 'Oh...you are so mean.. you said bad things about Daf..boo hoo". Come on Shizuka, you led the horse to the water, aren't you prepared for what is next to come?

Oh yes Tink, I am tall 5 foot 9.

Yes, para..I am tired of your diatribes. I am tired of how you point fingers and tell people HOW they should lead their lives and what they SHOULD do because you say so.

IF you want to be constructive, which I doubt you know how to be, you can always try to preface your attack with

"I choose not to drink, because I have problems with alchohol and when I was under the influence I lashed out at people." Or "I think drinking is like poison, I watched as the people I loved succumbed to a horrible death and lost ties with those they loved due to their addiction".

Instead you just stand there, on your soapbox and point..point..point!!!

There are many people here that have their own way of living. They post information concerning new techniques and their observations. Sometimes they are a bit different (in my opinion) but it is acceptable because they are not calling everyone else out and saying how we are all so horrible for partaking in various lifestyles.

Shizuka,

Grow up...get a life or at least come out with what evidence you have that I am some how coming across as "manly". How does one do that? I write / type in the manner in which I think. I am used to writing in a specific style, call it umpteen laboratory reports or just having Mercury in Capricorn. IN any event, I do not TRY to be something I am not. I may not be as "in touch" with my feminine side, as Tink suggested, but that does not mean I am any less of a female.

posted August 08, 2004 08:35 PM         

You said: Second, it has been her (or his) M.O to insult me on a personal basis when I am going toe to toe with another.

You are not listening to yourself. What is your M.O. when insulting someone on a personal basis when you are going toe to toe with another?

Why don't you be a REAL man and have some honour which means you do not snicker about haves and have nots?

Or why don't you be a REAL woman and stop thinking that your paycheque has anything to do with the real you. After all, size doesn't matter.

Or you can be REALLY big, and like a child, say sorry when you know it's time.

Sh!

posted August 08, 2004 08:46 PM         

Yeah.. you are becoming more and more the person I think you are. Calling me Puddles? Wow that is very effective.

Making a comment about my salary? Where did that come from? I don't remember telling someone how much I make or that someone else is less because they are poor.

LOL..you are a child and you are wasting my time. You do not even make sense, but you are good for a laugh. Maybe you need a good stiff drink..or something good and stiff.

posted August 08, 2004 08:52 PM           

Love,

posted August 08, 2004 08:52 PM         

5'9! Got me beat. Just 5'7. I always wanted to be either tall and statuesque or cute and petite. I didn't manage either. Gramps was half Algonquin but of course I didn't end up with the hair. Neither did he, but he did have the nose and the cheekbones the lucky ba$tard . May I ask to which nation you belong, pidaua?

Speaking of which, I screwed up your name on my first reference (piduau). I'm sure I've screwed up before. I apologize. Occasionally I'm tempted to just say "pid" but I feel that's too familiar and you might be offended.

posted August 08, 2004 09:11 PM         

You can call me Pid, that doesn't bother me at all. LOl.. My father is Apache and Spanish (Chiricahua) my mother is German and Cherokee (her grandmother was a fullblooded Cherokee that married a nice German cowboy LOL). I was always tall and willowy until after puberty. I wanted to be petite like my German granny, but I was destined to be a semi-amazon. My Aries Apache granny was actually quite tall - she must have been descended from Red Sleeves.

Yeah, I remember when someone called you Tinkles, that was kind of goofy.

Oh, yes..the chat. I believe I stated I was tired of people trying to make those of us with money or that work hard feel bad. I get tired of that, because I do work very hard and I have lived through hard times as well. My family was hard working farmers and crop sharers (sp) in Kansas and Texas.

Yes....yes..and I did say that I wasn't worried that some people would take me to task, because I am used to it. And I was warned that there are people always "watching" the chats, waiting for someone to say something that offends so that they can immediately report it.

posted August 08, 2004 09:25 PM         

Let the record state, for all other knowflakes, that it was in fact "tinkle" not "tinkles". I have apparently not yet progressed to the plural. But I'm working on it

posted August 08, 2004 10:48 PM         

To set the record straight, Shizuka has been a knowflake since 2003 as the profile will show. I promise, knowflake honor, Shizuka has never deceived or hid behind another user name.

What you see is what you get .... I just don`t recall Shizuka stepping into our 'bucket of S8it' before tho Perhaps the forums the postings on have been overlooked.

juniperb

posted August 08, 2004 11:28 PM         

You said: Making a comment about my salary? Where did that come from? I don't remember telling someone how much I make or that someone else is less because they are poor.

YOU ALSO SAID THIS NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH YOUR BUDDIES:

lioneye: People that are struggling financially, or with getting or keeping a job, see it all as evil

jwhop:

pidaua: What bothers me is that they placate each other, like being goofy and completely unrealistic makes ones more spiritual than others

jwhop: Funny, I've had run-ins with both of them

lioneye: The "haves" vs the "have nots"

pidaua: Lioneye, you're right. If they used some of that energy for work instead of bitching, they would get so much further

I rest my case. You know that to see the world in terms of "us" and "them" is incomplete. There is a third way which your ancestors knew better than any race on earth. Remember them and you will remember what you forgot.

posted August 09, 2004 12:20 AM         

1) I don't see where I mentioned any names

2) There are people that act as goofy as heck and then state that makes them spiritual

3) Some people WOULD rather complain instead of working and changing the system.

4) Some people DO believe those that work hard and make money are evil and the wealth should be resdistributed to others

5) I did not say the Have's or Have nots, nor did I bring up my salary at all. My quote / statement about the "placating" part was about this "group" mentality where people begin to gang up on others when one makes a statement concerning "being with the darkside..etc."

I watched as people came out of the woodwork and started say "Oh yeah...this person is bad or they said something mean in GU"..then more and more started, I can only think because they did not want to be lumped with the so called "evil" ones LOl.

26 T - I can only think that shizuka's major breach of chat ettiquite pleased you in some sick way. There was nothing I said in the chatroom that I have not said before. I am appalled that you think that it is funny.

Shizuka, you really need to grow up. What a sick fiend you are by skulking around the chat rooms in order to play chat police and then post others conversations. The last time something on that order happened, the person was banned.

You need some real help - and others who think what you did was brave or intelligent need some help as well.

posted August 09, 2004 12:25 AM         

I stand by what I said and I am not embarrassed at all.

Juni, no one brought you up. I believe the only thing that was said was in reference to the witch hunt caused by Daf's thread and how we were not happy with it at all, as the three of us posting (along with a few other but I will respect their privacy) had all had fingers pointed at us.