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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 28, 2005 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
This thread has raised questions about what constitutes a true human being, as opposed to what we are accustomed to think of as a "man" or a "woman". I agree that it is lamentable, how Western Civilization, so-called, has managed to inculcate in many of its offspring a firm belief that there is even an image of a perfect human being, let alone two images, one female, the other male.

There are as many images of perfect beings, as there are imperfect beings. But, ultimately, a being possessed of true perfection, an absolute harmony of elements, - as Shakespeare wrote, "[on whom every planet did seem to set its stamp, as if to give assurance of a man]", transcends our powers of conception; and it certainly transcends our customary notions of gender.

In occult science, certain qualities have become associated with the female (yin), and others with the male (yang). This is because, on average, the female tended to exhibit the "yin" characteristics, while the male tended, on average, to be more "yang". But, the wise have always known that these distinctions are relatively arbitrary. What was labelled "yin", and noted as exhibiting yin characteristics one moment, may have to be labelled "yang" for exhibiting yang characteristics the next. The wise have always taught that harmony consists in a perfect balance of these elements. They have also taught that perfection as we tend to understand it, as static, does not appear to exist, but, rather, although it may be said to exist, it can only be understood as an eternal process, with no other object than to express the perpetual harmonizing of elements.

Hence, when treating of characteristics traditionally noted as being "female" or "male", "yin" or "yang", the key thing to remember is balance. Balance in everything.

When we praise faith, or abandon, it is seemingly at the expense of reason, and when we praise reason, it is seemingly at the expense of faith. But, although faith and reason are (in our minds) opposed, they are also polar, and belong to a larger experience, in which both are necessarily balanced against one another.

The more closely we examine things like logic and passion, faith and reason, men and women, the more complex the characteristics appear, and the root principles of yin and yang are swapped like spit. One appears active, masculine, or yang, one moment, and passive, feminine, or yin, the next, and it is only when we marry ourselves, so to speak, to one interpretation, that we prevent the evolution of consciousness, which seeks always to oppose these principles in an effort to reconcile them.

Faith, passion, or abandon, may seem yang, when we consider it as an action, an outward, aggressive movement. And it may seem yin, when we consider it as the opposite, or absence, of ego assertion.

Reason becomes masculine when it is an action, an outward expression, and feminine when it is reflective, an inner awareness.

All this can be infinitely confusing.

The only truly important thing to keep in mind is this:

Nothing is SUPPOSED to be anything.

Just another message from your local, neighborhood preacherman,
hsc

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Judgement is the antithesis of understanding.

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maya-v
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posted February 28, 2005 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message

http://www.mainlesson.com/display.php?author=macgregor&book=greece&story=achilles

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 28, 2005 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heart--Shaped Cross     Edit/Delete Message
hey pix,

I guess its heartshapedcross again.
I was unsure for a moment there,
but im back to my old self.
Then again, maybe we'll see diogenes around yet.

Sorry to hear you are depressed?
Is it situational, or are you just a mental case, like me? That would suck.

Whatever it is, i hope it passes and you feel better tomorrow.

take care,
hsc

supercilious: adj. coolly and patronizingly haughty
(Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary)

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pixelpixie
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posted February 28, 2005 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah.. re; the definition.. yeah, I figured as much. Them's there sum purty words. YYYEEEEEE-HHHHAAAAWWWWWWW!!!!

And yes, I am a situational mental case.
I have been feeling super raw and underloved.. even though Valentine's week I was so loved it was kind of wierd....
Love is one thing.. Understanding another. He can't really love this nutcase with good oral skills.

Oh gosh. Nevermind.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I just needed a good hard spanking.
I'm better now.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
*passes through thread to give her favorite pixie a spank and a hug*

*waves* Hello others...

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, like I said, I needed that.. I guess I didn't know how much until it vibrated through me and I named it rage, ~it was internal and frustrating.. but now I am spent and happy. (I was my period week, and I finally got some yesterday.. but guess I really needed some more. I couldn't be single. I am too whipped by my needs)....Yet still.. I can't sleep.
I also need regular hugs, so thank you for that.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
For you, anytime and always. Here's another.

I just ended my period too. I guess we're in synch. We hang out here way too much. LOL

You know who to come to whenever your down. I'm always here for a hug or an ear.

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
*squealing*

Look at these two!

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
AAAAAAAAWWWWWWwwwwwwww.. don't make me get all goopy and stuff.... but Ha!!! Look at this!!!
hello... I'm a cute wittle baby hedgehawg, oh yes I am....


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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
*gasp* OMG!!! That's the cutest thing I've ever seen! Lookie his lil legs!!! HAHA! I want one!!!!

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
don't you wanna scratch that little rumbly tumbly and say stupid squeaky voiced things to him? (Including words like 'rumbly tumbly'.. makes gagging noise.. sorry, too many winnie the pooh books with my munchkins...)

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maya-v
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posted March 01, 2005 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message

I feel so left out ...

Pix, 26 ... are we still friends?

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maya-v
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posted March 01, 2005 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
And as always, HSC is so wise and profound ... dont you just love when the Sage in him shows up a bit?

Its true, what you said ... I was trying to say something to taht effect, but you are soooo much more articulate and deep.

Thanks for understading where I am coming from Steve. Its such a rare gift, to find someone who can make out even half of what Im saying!

Love

Maya

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trillian
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posted March 01, 2005 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the lovin'...all is groovy.

The most important thing in this thread is that Pixie said she is depressed. Pixie, in light of your other thread in H&H, I can't urge you enough to have your thyroid checked. Hyper- and Hypo-thyroidism can both lead to depression problems if left unchecked and untreated. Even if they say you have a normal reading, be sure to ask them what your TSH level is, and let me know.

Perfection and imperfection, as stated, are, most likely, perceptions. If all is balanced in the Yin and Yang of life, both exist as a piece of a part of a whole...ergo, All is Perfect in Its Imperfection. To achieve the Ultimate State of Being (assuming such a thing exists), it may be necessary to not only be Enlightened, but also Endarkened.

I've no idea. Those who know me, know that I always reserve the right to change my mind, as I am passionate about very little. I am but an egg.

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maya-v
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posted March 01, 2005 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.hallmark.com/ECardWeb/ECardPickupView.jsp?c=EG3218331250382&msgid=30708767&n=vj%03j&e=%7d%7ev%7d%7evh%7cql%7cI%03jqxx7lxv&BAE=3&mailID=BAE_ECARD&s=wop%3a%3c%3a%3f&p=Qxyn %29%03x%7e%29onnu%29kn%7d%7dn%7b%29%7cxxw%2a&f=y

For Pixie, hoping you feel better soon!

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Ah.. well thanks.
That was sweet.
I'm okay.. I was feeling despondant and full of this I can't explain it.. energy inside.
I have been feeling low, it is circumstancial, and if I look back and over, everything is good and fine.. I am not THAT depressed. I think in this cae, I just needed to get laid. ( hence the energy inside) Sure, there have been times.. how could I be a deeply feeling human if I didn't feel icky also.
But I am okay today. Thanks.And Trillian.. I will go to my doctors.. for sure. Thanks.

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trillian
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posted March 01, 2005 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
OK Pixie...I just want you to be well. Keep me posted. I could use a good lay or ten myself.

btw, maya, I don't know you, and I wasn't offended. It would take a lot more than that.
So again, all is groovy.

In general, I don't care for it if someone tries to elevate personal opinion to universal truth...but, I'm probably guilty of doing it myself now and again.

So...back to our regularly scheduled Phantom Looove Chat. Do I choose the weird creepy lives-in-the-walls faux daddy figure? Or the long lean young buck? How is that even a question?!

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Awww maya Of course we're still friends.

Here's a hug.

((Hugs to you all))

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maya-v
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posted March 01, 2005 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
Good, Im so glad we are still friends. I hate making people mad and losing friends. I am so happy I met another fun knowflake - in a memorable encounter. What say, Trill, wanna be friends?

Hey 26, how is it going with Wandall and the paper plane?

And Pix, I am gonna quit on trying to 'woo' you. Honestly, I didnt know my joking was annoying you. I must have a horrible sense of humor and timing

Love to all

Maya

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Maya~
HUH????
I thought it was funny, your constant 'woo-ing' tactics.. I think.. why does she want to woo me? It seemed silly, which is why I talk about it.
but don't think you haven't.. just cuz I am having a blue day.
I feel your semsitivity as surely as you see mine.. I am sorry I am not as graceful as you in handling it.. sometimes I can't be.
but I like you. Of course I do..... why wouldn't I?
I just don't understand it, is all... I'm nothing special, just a goofball clown with a heavy heart who has a soft spot for sex and defense and proper terms.

Is it cuz I didn't give you a hedgehog? You weren't here!
Here..

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maya-v
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posted March 01, 2005 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
Its cause I find you to lead the perfect life that I so envy and dont have guts to pursue.

You have a wonderful talent, you make your living out of it - you have two beautiful kids, you look like a goddess and you have the sexiest guy ever ... and another who is crazy abt you but would NEVER admit it (hoof in mouf).

I wish I was half as courageous to pursue my dreams.

And wow, that little critter looks yummy!

Love you loads

Maya

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
you're a sweetheart.
I don't know.. yes, I have a good man who loves me. I agree with that. I see it from the outside, and every once and a while I am absolutely floored with it. But in the day to day.. we are just a married couple.. normal. Having stupid fights about important things and important fights about stupid things, and loving each other.... from our own perspectives.
I am NOT living my dream.. I practice with a band that was formed last year... a group of good musicians.. I ma cusping it.. I feel something, but honestly, I don't think it will be for a while, and I sing my guts out and love it. But it happens once a month.. sometimes twice.
In my regular job, I feel underappreciated as of late.. partially due to my band's needs from before, and that eclipsing the day to day.. and it has bitten me in the ass. I paid my bills on monday and that left me with very little left.... and even when I get paid this week, it is so meager due to lack of hours, I still have to wait another week until my hubbies more ample paycheque comes. Not my idea of a settled life as of late. There is more.
I have all this passion inside.. now I want to wriote cards and paint them. Make proto types and start a business.. last year it was something else.
I have all this vital energy inside and no direction to place it, and it makes me sad and under----something... anyway.. please don't envy or whatever.. as there is nothing but an image and it is breaking around my feet.

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maya-v
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posted March 01, 2005 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
You're gonna be alright

I just know it inside, the strong person that you are, Im sure you're gonna find a way to fight those demons and find a way to do it with grace.

I just learnt this phrase and though it sounds very Manhattan bi*chy, its so true!

"If it doesnt kill you, it only makes you stronger."

Hang in there pix, Im sure there are great things in store for you!

btw, I just baked some peanut butter pecan chocolate chip cookies, they're warm, slightly burnt but amazing for the blues ... they always help cheer up my sweet archer friend so should I send some your way?

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