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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
I feel like I never truly connect with people. Its because I really do not want to deal with a lot of unneccessary banalities that seem to abound everyday. So I just float around.
Was speaking to Steph, my friend, about it. Being a Libra, I look forward to her words. 'Its not a cop-out', she says 'Its a break-out'. I know this to be true, though sometimes it bothers me.

So I ask two questions, mods and fellow knowflakes. I would love to know what you all think.

When is detachment denial?
What do you do to connect, engage, establish rapport?

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
This is really a Soul Unions question. So beam me up Sthenri

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pixelpixie
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posted March 01, 2005 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
ah crap.. that's a really good one, Danny...
I don't really have words for it. I will think about it. but I do get it, I think.. I just learned over in Astrology that you and I have the same big three, but in a different order.

I think free-for-all is a fine place for this question.

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
Coolie, pixlepixie. Yes, I saw your post.

Are you saying that you feel un-connected sometimes? or is your post in regards to the detachment question?

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Only LibraSparkle can move, delete or close threads from this forum. And this is a good topic for this forum!

I think a big part of it comes from within. There is a detatchment within that you then feel with others. I do know how you feel. And I think it gets better as time goes on and you get to know yourself better, feel more comfortable with yourself. Truly everyone in your life is a reflection of self. You are probably a more sensitive soul than most so find it harder to easily connect or click with others. I have felt the same way at times. I think by just being yourself and trying not to care or worry about connecting with others will help a great deal. The more you try for something the more you push it away sometimes. It's like you are reinforcing that the problem is there. I think only after you are completely comfortable with yourself is when you can start connecting with everyone around you. And do we ever really "get there"? To that point of being completely comfortable in our own skins? I'm not saying you are not but I think if you feel you are missing things in your relationships it is really a reflection of something going on within. I dont know if that helped at all but that's what I think.

And I think everyone feels that way to a certain degree. Just love and be yourself and you will connect with the right people. Like attracts like.

Be the person you want to connect with.

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
26T: "The more you try for something the more you push it away sometimes. It's like you are reinforcing that the problem is there."

No wonder I cannot find a freakin job, or make really good local friendships!!!

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
The more you try for something the more you push it away sometimes. It's like you are reinforcing that the problem is there

That's true. Because I have felt 'enlightenment', like a complete sense of calm wash over me, from the crown of my head to the tips of my toes' twice. Both times was when I completely accepted myself.

I know a lot of my detachment comes from the fact that, yes, I am very sensitive and I am just too intuitve. I can see someone and know whats up. Its like nothing can be hidden. Then it becomes a battle within myself as to whether to tolerate things or not. I'm making it sound like I dont let people be, far from it. Its just when cicumstances reveal the person to be hypocritical, and I truly cant stand that, that I want to speak.

Just be myself. Just be yourself. It is such a simple concept, yet....

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
ah, VTT we posted at the same time. That must have really struck a chord with us, huh?

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I know VTT. I have to constantly remind myself of the truth in this.

Whatever you give your attention to is what you are bringing into your life. It is so important to watch those thoughts. Sometimes you dont even realize certain thoughts are negative and that they are what are blocking the things you are want from coming in.

If you are giving alot of thought to what you dont have, you will keep on "not having". It's a matter of changing those thoughts to what you do have. Look at every little positive thing you DO have and you are then in a place of "recieving". And the good stuff will start to come in. When you think about what is not there it will continue to not be there.

I'm still working on this myself. But I know it is Truth and have seen it operate in my life. These are things I've learned and Know but now need to put into action in my own life.

But yes, the more power (thoughts) you give to the things that you feel you are lacking the more you will continue to lack those things. It's so simple isnt it? And it seems so easy to change but if youve been in a certain mindframe for most of your life, it's easier said than done.

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
And you know, that really is the secret of life. Because have you noticed that confidence is key. You can have a person with less than desirable qualities, but if they are confident with it, it less sharp


That truly is a rapport builder.

Confidence=Passion

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
Just to paraphrase you 26T:

Its like saying 'Tomorrow, I'll do that. Tomorrow, I'll change'. Tomorrow never comes. So you keep on waiting.

'Life is what happens when we are busy making plans' I forget who said that, but so true.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I know just what you mean Danny. When you are sensitive and intuitive and able to see through people it can make things harder. But then I think then it comes down to acceptance. Or letting go. People are all at their own points on their own paths and we shouldnt let what we see to be something negative in them bother us. (also easier said than done)

When you change the inner the outer changes dramatically.

I think true confidence comes with truly loving yourself. Alot of people give off confidence but alot of times it is hiding a big lack of it within. It is their ego. It's their protection. Their wall.

Love yourself and then you can only see the beauty in others. (I work at this everyday)

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed.

Tomorrow never comes. All we have is right now. It's when you get sick of life happening to you that things start to change.


......what is that quote...?

Change your perception and you change your world? ......it's true.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Some days are better than others. All you can do is take it day by day. Try to do your best everyday.......

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
This whole thread is resonating with me...it's a shame that I cannot find words! I am really detached socially a lot of the time myself, and I too find part of it is my intuitive side. I cannot stand hypocrisy (although I do know that everyone including myself does it once in awhile). And it takes me a lot to warm up socially, which is frustrating. Once I am in though, boy can I be social and fun and engaging! It's just so rare.

The stuff about thinking about things that aren't there keeping things not there seems to be so true. All I think about is what I don't have, no wonder I have been bummed! It's like...oh wow, I don't have a job, I don't have any love or respect in this house, I'm single, blah blah...Well, I still don't have any of those things! Still no job, people I meet outside of the home tend to be not very loving or just too self-centered and not very respectful, and despite that I have met a few guys who COULD be potential boyfriends, well they never go well by the third meeting.

I should probably just start thinking about the skills I do have, my creativity in various life aspects, my ability to be caring and social when I want...I mean, I don't think about how I don't have lots of money, and guess what keeps happening...money keeps coming to me from unexpected places!

I actually do have the mindframe of "tomorrow I'll do this and that..." It's terrible. You wind up always saying it and never doing anything. After a few months you realize you haven't done anything at all.

Hahah my brain is going a million miles a minute with this thread Lots of stuff to digest and think about!

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
VTT, I am going to stereotype here and say that Virgo are so frigging lovely, it hurts. You guys never mean any but love to anybody. So calm and wise and helpful. So loving and good with words.
I have a Virgo friend who is all those things and more. But he thinks about sucicide a thousand times a day. Solely because of what he aint. I tell him that a million people would love to have his gifts because I truly believe life starts with loving yourSELF.

There is the Id and then the SELF. If you are in the SELF be completely in it. Honour it. When I felt these moments of calm, my train of thought eventually led me to believe that what I was trying to mask ,push down, was in fact arrogance. Once I thought that, it was like 'Ah'. I owned it. My friend, who I was waiting for, bounded up to me and her first words were 'Whoa, you look sooooo calm' I lost that feeling when I tried to explain.

VTT, honey, maybe the social pariah feeling you have is your conflicting need to be noticed, yet your naturally humble side feels won't justify it. Just be what you want to be completely.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I was just thinking how it seems life and everyone in it is full of contradictions, hypocricies, paradoxes......I've learned that that is just a natural part of life. It really is. So which one will you choose out of the two sides of the coin? It really is up to you. I contradict myself all the time. Then you get to a point where you just laugh at it all. The crazy silliness of it all. That's when you feel a breakthrough.

VTT, "And it takes me a lot to warm up socially, which is frustrating. Once I am in though, boy can I be social and fun and engaging!" I'm the same way. Hey you read some of that book Ask and It Is Given I think. Such truth there. But how easily we forget. We've been taught to think a certain way all our lives and I think that is what holds alot of people back. They are taught to believe that things arent supposed to be easy. It is so not true. Your thoughs and change in perspective are all you need. This takes work though. Definiately doesnt happen over night.

Yes, this is a great thead. Alot of stuff to think about eh?

It's like life is waiting to be grabbed but we dont even realize it is US - our thoughts that are the only things holding us back......the old tapes we play over and over in our heads.....

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
Check this out guys. I especially like the bit about not speaking of the past.
http://www.iloveulove.com/spirituality/barrylong/secretjoyously.htm


Life is a beautiful experiment.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Life is a beautiful experiment.

I like that.

And may I add, only what you make it.

I'm going to check that site out now. Thanks!

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trillian
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posted March 01, 2005 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Life is what happens when you're making other plans
--John Lennon (whom I adore)

quote:
I can see someone and know whats up. Its like nothing can be hidden.
Careful with this sort of thing. It makes huge assumptions. Sometimes we are right, and sometimes we are not.

To have a friend, you must be a friend. To be loved, you must love. You will not ever run out of your capacity to love. You will not ever run out of your capacity to be a friend. No matter how drained you may sometimes feel, you will never be depleted of all the beauty inside of you, which you created to share. How do I know this? Because you chose to be a part of this time/space/continuum. You are exactly where you choose to be. You are exactly whom you want to be. And if you want to be something different tomorrow, you may choose that too.

I know. I have consciously chosen many times. It is far easier to love and love and love some more, even when it hurts, than it is to build walls and take refuge from yourself.

Tomorrow is what you think and do today.

Here is another John Lennon quote for you:

quote:
And in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make.


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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
WOW! Awesome post trillian!

quote:
Careful with this sort of thing. It makes huge assumptions. Sometimes we are right, and sometimes we are not.

VERY, very true. Many, many times have I thought - was sure - I knew something or someone and was proved very wrong. We are only seeing things through our own filters. Everything and everyone. Very important to remember.

quote:
To have a friend, you must be a friend. To be loved, you must love...... You are exactly where you choose to be. You are exactly whom you want to be. And if you want to be something different tomorrow, you may choose that too.


Tomorrow is what you think and do today.


I really admire you trillian. You always hit the nail on the head.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
BTW, that looks like a great site Danny. I have to go now but I will be checking it out more later.

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26taurus
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posted March 01, 2005 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Before I go:

The more I see the less I know for sure.
John Lennon

You're just left with yourself all the time, whatever you do anyway. You've got to get down to your own God in your own temple. It's all down to you, mate.
John Lennon

I love Lennon too.

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Danny
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posted March 01, 2005 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Danny     Edit/Delete Message
Too true, Trillian. There are twos ides to a coin. I always choose to focus on the positive side. This is why I asked when is detaching, denial.

26T, g'nite

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virgotaurustaurus
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posted March 01, 2005 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgotaurustaurus     Edit/Delete Message
"To have a friend, you must be a friend. To be loved, you must love." I don't find this to be entirely true all the time. I can love, but that doesn't always ensure I will keep meeting people who can love. Exactly what happened with my ex-boyfriend. I was a friend and I did love him, but I did not get that in exchange. And I actually find it easier to build walls and take refuge than to openly love all the time, even when it hurts.

26T its funny you mention contradictions and paradoxes as this person I talk to once in awhile finds me completely intriguing because he sees all of my huge paradoxes. It makes me laugh because I tend to forget that they're there.

Yup! I've been taught that nothing is supposed to be easy, and if something is, then something MUST be wrong or something WILL go wrong. It's a load of b.s.

Danny, I'm glad you "stereotyped". Because I totally relate to your friend in a sense. Some Virgos seriously have the tendency to view only the negative in themselves. It's the whole critical/analytical/perfectionist side of them. A lot of people only see it as an external thing, but Virgos turn it on themselves too.

I know that moment of calm you are talking about!! Last time I remember it, was 4 months ago while I was on the road. It's definitely something that cannot be put into words.

I just remembered that my Libra friend came out of the social pariah feeling this year, and I think he did exactly what you said, Danny . He started focusing more on who he was...I didn't realize there was a correlation! He just stopped trying to prove himself to everyone else, just stopped trying to be this bigshot.

I just managed to get a bunch of stuff done in that short amount of time that I have been putting off until tomorrow! WOO!

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