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moonshine
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posted July 07, 2005 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
Its so terrible. Especially after all the euphoria after London winning the Olympics yesterday.

I go to work through Kings cross every single morning. This morning I woke up late and missed the bomb blasts by half an hour. I couldnt go in to work becuase eveyrthing was stopped --trains, tubes and buses. Many of my friends are still in London and will be probably stranded tonight, I dont know how they're going to get home.

If I'd left for work half an hour earlier, I would have been one of the passengers affected by the kings cross/russell square tunnel blasts. I am so very very very lucky, I feel terrible for the others thinking about it.

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Devilfish
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posted July 07, 2005 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Devilfish     Edit/Delete Message

im sooooooooo glad you are all ok.
my prayers are with London
what a heartbreakin tragedy
im speechless.

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Nephthys
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posted July 07, 2005 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
I am glad to hear everyone in England is okay

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Sun_Scorpion
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posted July 07, 2005 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sun_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
(((((Hugs))))) Moonshine
Hope all your friends are safe and well, and lots of love and light for everyone else affected by this tragedy too.

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maya-v
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posted July 07, 2005 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message

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Philbird
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posted July 07, 2005 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Glad you are safe!

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Aphrodite
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posted July 07, 2005 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
I hope all the Knowflakes living or visiting in London are safe. I heard the news early this morning and kept the BBC online live radio on to keep up to date with what's happened. So sad, and so terrible.

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Rainbow~
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posted July 07, 2005 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
MOONSHINE.........how very, very, lucky you are!

Ohmigosh! To have come so close to being one of those unfortunate passengers!

So happy you woke up late....I can only imagine how you feel....*sigh*

SHEAA....dear girl...so happy to hear you're okay too....as well as, CARDINALGAL and SUN_SCORPION....I know you don't all live in London....

A gal who called herself "CAT" who used to be a moderator here is also from London, and I truly hope she is okay.....

It is so horrible.....they are all in my prayers....

Love,
Rainbow

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Thorshammer
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posted July 07, 2005 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorshammer     Edit/Delete Message
so sad...tis is..i just wondered if they didnt win the bid for the olympics if this would have happened. were is LOSTinstrangeworld...anyone seen her?

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LostInStrangeWorld
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posted July 07, 2005 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostInStrangeWorld     Edit/Delete Message
Here I am. This is so very sad.....

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Bluemoon
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posted July 07, 2005 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
I am glad that you are all here.

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LostInStrangeWorld
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posted July 07, 2005 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostInStrangeWorld     Edit/Delete Message
I spoke to somebody today who said that two people she knew decided to both take the day off today, otherwise they would have been involved! What a coincidence! (Nothing is coincidence).

Everyone I know is fine. But I feel so sad. Anybody could get hurt.

I'm with Ghandi too.

I see I'm not the only knowflake in the UK.....

LOve & Light

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aqua
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posted July 08, 2005 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
any new news about the other knowflakes?

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aqua
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posted July 08, 2005 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
sending some more love and light

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Sheaa Olein
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posted July 08, 2005 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Rainbow, 26, Solane Star, aqua and everyone who asked. So far, people that I know of in the area are OK. Just makes me so angry that people force intimidation on innocent people.

Have a good weekend guys, and speak with you soon,

Sheaa

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26taurus
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posted July 08, 2005 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message

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Solane Star
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posted July 10, 2005 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
The Answer Is Still Peace
The terrorist attack in London today has once again created deep anguish in our collective soul...

Around the world people yearn to find peace and give solace to the suffering and bereaved. Once again the clash of polarized enemies clamors for attention. Al-Qaeda takes pride in this heinous and sordid crime, while Western nations seek to bring the terrorists to justice. Yet it would be naive to take the simple way out and call this an example of pure evil and depravity.

In a very real way we are all part of the London tragedy. Everyone is caught in the tangled web of social injustice, economic disparities, ecological disaster, war, and terrorism. Unless we accept this fact, we will continue with our madness of an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. Mahatma Gandhi declared that if we continue on this path the whole world would go blind. Will we ever see through our blindness and create a global community of connected humanity? To promote peace today means promoting a critical mass of consciousness where violence is never an option.

London, like the attacks in Madrid, Bali, and Indonesia before it, should make us want to live for peace above all. I understand how it's possible to respond to terrorism with deep anger; I cannot understand responding to it with anger that goes on and on forever. There are causes behind every terrorist act and therefore hope that these causes can be changed, even as we continue to pursue justice. We still ignore the source of global instability: religious fundamentalism which has its roots in extreme poverty, where 50% of the world lives on $2 per day, 20% of it on less than $1 per day, a world where 8 million people die each year because they are too poor to survive.

Terrorism also festers because of a lack of education, toxic nationalism, ignorance about the outside the world, and deep economic disparities. Twenty thousand children died yesterday of hunger-related causes around the world, twenty thousand will die today, and twenty thousand tomorrow. That is not part of the evening news. Why not?

Nature abhors a deep imbalance. The human species has become the most dangerous predator on our planet. Nature might be saying to herself, "Human beings were an interesting experiment that didn't work, so let's move on." Or, perhaps, our self-awareness has reached a turning point, as Inside ourselves we've always carried the seeds of creativity. The next creative leap isn't a mystery. Millions of people are ready to join in harmonious interaction with Nature--and with our own complex inner nature--to create a world of peace, harmony, laughter and love. Let us strengthen our intention to create that critical mass of peace consciousness. Every tear can be a drop of nourishment for the new world that wants to be born and is making itself known little by little, every day. Each one of us can help create this critical mass by becoming the embodiment of peace conciousness their peace practices:

Being Peace
Thinking Peace
Feeling Peace
Speaking Peace
Acting Peace
Creating Peace
Sharing Peace
Celebrating Peace.

The Alliance for the New Humanity is committed to connecting and strengthening the synaptic network of the emerging planetary mind.

Love,

Deepak

Visit www.choprablog.com to post your comments and continue this discussion with Deepak.


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Planet_Soul
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posted July 11, 2005 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet_Soul     Edit/Delete Message
It was so sad it reminded me of 9/11. I saw a news report about a woman who went to help the passengers in the train behind her where the bombs hit, and how brave the doctors and firefighters were to go and help.

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LostInStrangeWorld
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posted July 11, 2005 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostInStrangeWorld     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou, Solane Star. So well said.

I don't believe that all terrorists are evil. The only real evil is ignorance itself.
These terrorists have seen some of the ugly things in life. It is pain in the soul that makes people want to go and hurt others. A sort of darkness that consumes. Like Ghandi said, this is not the way forward. The whole world would go blind. I cry each time I think about ALL the innocent children who get hurt/killed and the bereaved.

Really we are all children.

Look all around you. The world is full of disillusion. Various religions claiming that THEY have THE truth. And you can tell, whether they are Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, amongst many others, they COMPLETELY believe it. But how can they all be true?
The world is full of disillusion. Each person has his/her own perspective. This is the illusion of separation. But we are not separate; we are all connected. To hurt someone else is to hurt yourself. We are all connected. The Earth and All her creatures.
The teaching that we must all learn to walk in other's shoes was one of the wisest teachings of all. We must also try not to judge others.

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aqua
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posted July 11, 2005 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua     Edit/Delete Message
sending some more.

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ScotScorp
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posted July 11, 2005 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScotScorp     Edit/Delete Message
LISW:

Angela

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"All things are bound together. All things connect." Chief Seattle

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Sheaa Olein
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posted July 13, 2005 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
Just an update you may have seen already guys.

It seems that the terrorists were/are British born. They left their ID near the scene of the bombing to be identified after perhaps? Apparently one of the bomber's families called the hotline to say he was missing before he blew himself and the others up

Information below taken from the BBC news website;

Police investigating the London bombs are now focusing on finding those who masterminded the suspected suicide attacks that have killed at least 52.
Detectives believe three British men of Pakistani descent died carrying out the first attacks of their kind in the UK.

The fate of a fourth man on the bombed Piccadilly Line train remains unclear. One man was arrested in West Yorkshire, where three of the suspects were from.

Terrorism experts say the men may have been guided by a "controlling hand".

Police believe two of the suspects died in the blasts at Aldgate/Liverpool Street and Edgware Road Tube stations, while a third died on the Number 30 bus at Tavistock Square

Detectives want to establish if the fourth suspect died in the explosion on the Piccadilly Line, or whether somehow he escaped, said BBC home affairs correspondent Danny Shaw.

Police are also trying to find the source of explosives found on Tuesday in a raid on a property in Leeds and in a car parked at Luton Central railway station.

Counter-terrorism officials believe the group would have had an outside "controlling hand" who could still be at large, our correspondent added.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair has said another bomb attack is "likely" and there are fears that a second suicide bomb gang may be preparing to strike.

The attacks in the morning rush-hour last Thursday killed at least 52 people, and injured more than 700.

Scotland Yard on Wednesday named six more victims of the bombs, bringing the total of identified bodies to 11.

Police said on Tuesday that three of the four suspects were believed to be dead, after their belongings were found at the bomb sites.

Police sources told the BBC they had not recovered any timing devices from the bomb scenes, possibly indicating that detonation was by hand.

They are also investigating the theory that the bus bomb may initially have been targeted at the Northern Line, which on Thursday morning had been closed because of a defective train.

A relative of one of the West Yorkshire suspects was arrested and taken to London for questioning.

It emerged that relatives of one of the men - Hasib Hussain - had reported him missing last Thursday morning.

Police sources told the BBC that the 19-year-old was on the Number 30 bus.

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Sheaa Olein
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posted July 13, 2005 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sheaa Olein     Edit/Delete Message
One of the police raids - in the Beeston area - was on the home of 22-year-old Shehzad Tanweer, who has not been seen for a few days.

One local resident described him as "a nice lad".

"He liked to play football, he liked to play cricket. I'm shocked."

Another resident said he was just a "normal kid" who played basketball and kicked a ball around.

A third man was named by newspapers as Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30.

On Monday night, police had viewed CCTV footage of the four suspects together at London King's Cross last Thursday.


All had rucksacks and were seen 20 minutes before the three Tube bombs started going off at 0851 BST. The bus bomb went off at 0947 BST.

Three of the men had travelled to Luton from Leeds by train, before catching a Thameslink train to London. They were joined at Luton by a fourth man, believed to have driven to the Bedfordshire town.


Evidence found at each London location
Tuesday's police raids, which began at 0630 BST, centred on two properties in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, and four in Leeds.

Explosives were also found in a car at Luton railway station and a number of controlled explosions were carried out. The car has now been taken away for further examination.

A second car believed to be linked to the attacks was also found at the station and towed to Leighton Buzzard, 10 miles (16km) west of Luton, for further examination.

Sir Iqbal Sacranie, of the Muslim Council of Britain, said it had received news about the suspects with "anguish, shock and horror".

He said: "It appears our youth have been involved in last week's horrific bombings against innocent people.

"Nothing in Islam can ever justify the evil actions of the bombers."

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman said: "I want to make it absolutely clear that no-one should be in any doubt the work last Thursday is that of extremists and criminals.

"No-one should smear or stigmatise any community with these acts."

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair said the searches, carried out under the Anti-Terrorism Act, were intelligence-led and "directly connected" to last week's attacks.

Peter Clarke, head of the Met's anti-terrorist branch, said of the suspects: "We are trying to establish their movements in the run up to last week's attacks and specifically to establish if they all died in the explosions."

Police are asking for anyone with information on the bombs to contact their anti-terrorist hotline on 0800 789 321.

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