Lindaland
  Lindaland Central
  Katie Holmes' baby ?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Katie Holmes' baby ?
SecretGardenAgain
Knowflake

Posts: 1254
From:
Registered: Jun 2005

posted October 06, 2005 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SecretGardenAgain     Edit/Delete Message
Now I dont care much for Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise, Im not a type to follow big celebrities. But today when I went to get my haircut my hairdresser told me she's having a baby.

I was doodling online and found this, that Katie would not be allowed to have pain meds or scream durling labor due to Tom's Scientology convictions:

quote:
"Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save the sanity of the mother and the child and safeguard the home to which they will go," church founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote in his best-selling "Dianetics."

Is it me or is that just kind of suffocating and dictatorial...a woman can't even scream during labor...gujeezus, screaming when in pain is natural and healthy...I think not doing that would send someone into major trauma issues...

Weird!

Love
SG

IP: Logged

Yang
Knowflake

Posts: 2296
From: A temporary home
Registered: May 2004

posted October 06, 2005 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I read in the paper that she is pregnant! But the screamimg part I did not know.

IP: Logged

sue g
Knowflake

Posts: 8591
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004

posted October 06, 2005 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Just wait till she is there guys......she will probably scream her feckin head off....I did....and almost ripped my hubbie's tshirt.

Whoever the jerk was that invented that rule, obviously had never given birth.........but just wait until his next life.....AAARRRGGGHHHHHHH.......LOL !!!!

xxx

IP: Logged

AcousticGod
Knowflake

Posts: 11943
From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
Registered: May 2005

posted October 06, 2005 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I can only imagine that Karma if the religion he created is as messed up as it sounds.

IP: Logged

BloodRedMoon
Knowflake

Posts: 932
From: somewhere out there
Registered: Apr 2004

posted October 07, 2005 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BloodRedMoon     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't have pain meds during birth.

You better bet I screamed my head off. HEH!

IP: Logged

Lauren
Knowflake

Posts: 1158
From:
Registered: Aug 2005

posted October 07, 2005 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lauren     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not gonna say much, because this is one of those subjects where if I start typing I'll never stop.

So many conspiracy theories.. and a personal story I heard myself

It seems horrible. Scientology makes my skin crawl

IP: Logged

sue g
Knowflake

Posts: 8591
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004

posted October 07, 2005 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I would like to here more Lauren.....if you are willing.....

Scientology makes my flesh crawl too....but then again so does all religion and many of the people who have followed them....in the name of God.....not healthy at all from what Ive seen....

xx

IP: Logged

sue g
Knowflake

Posts: 8591
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004

posted October 07, 2005 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
It reminds of the wonderful catholic church.....how they spouted on in the past about the non use of contraception...all rules enforced by MALES of course, who wouldnt be faced with the consequences of giving birth and raising a child. All that crap about lovemaking beingfor procreation only..every seed is sacred.of course theyd advocate that, seeing as they werent allowed to commit the "carnal sin", or as some would prefer to refer to it as "getting their leg over" LOL!!!

....and condmning women who chose to have abortions, and even at one time women who went into pubs.....Aaaaarrggghhhhh.........

Thank God for evolution.....I would have murdered someone if Id have lived in those times.....or at least ended up going CRAZY....

Long live FREEWILL.....long live freedom of speech....long live the REBEL xxx

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted October 07, 2005 08:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
sue g - http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/mol/every-sp.mp3

IP: Logged

sue g
Knowflake

Posts: 8591
From: former land of the leprechaun
Registered: Sep 2004

posted October 07, 2005 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Prox

Hahahaha.....bloody precious girl, made me laugh so much.....you ROCK.....

Now dont ye all going wasting that seed.....LOL !!!!

Thanks

Lots of love


Sue xxxx

IP: Logged

raihs
Knowflake

Posts: 68
From: eastcoast australia
Registered: Oct 2004

posted October 07, 2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raihs     Edit/Delete Message
do you think the baby may be of the genetically modified immaculate conception type? Those two can afford the best baby money can buy hey?.....On the screaming when in labour, I think it is possible, I've had 3 babies myself, but it was only on the 3rd child i did not make much noise, possibly because i knew what to expect when the labour started, but on a first birth being quiet i dont think so..

however a very good book to look at is by FREDERICK LEBOYER, it's a very gentle method and everyting is explained well, it's also full of pictures and not long winded (can be read in a morning)

IP: Logged

raihs
Knowflake

Posts: 68
From: eastcoast australia
Registered: Oct 2004

posted October 07, 2005 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raihs     Edit/Delete Message
do you think the baby may be of the genetically modified immaculate conception type? Those two can afford the best baby money can buy hey?.....On the screaming when in labour, I think it is possible, I've had 3 babies myself, but it was only on the 3rd child i did not make much noise, possibly because i knew what to expect when the labour started, but on a first birth being quiet i dont think so..

however a very good book to look at is by FREDERICK LEBOYER, it's a very gentle method and everyting is explained well, it's also full of pictures and not long winded (can be read in a morning)

------------------
If i only end up being a notch on your bedpost, let it be a notch with a smiley face /:)

IP: Logged

Nephthys
Moderator

Posts: 3800
From: California
Registered: Oct 2001

posted October 12, 2005 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
And what if Katie has post-partum depression? Remember the flack Tom Cruise gave to Brooke Shields about that? That was really unfair, not his place to judge, and disrespectful of him to speak out against her own personal business like that.

It's like the male Doctor telling you that your menstrual cramps couldn't be "that bad".......

IP: Logged

BlueTopaz124
Knowflake

Posts: 1382
From: Portland, OR
Registered: Jan 2004

posted October 12, 2005 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
and what would be the point to NOT scream or make noise during childbirth? What does not screaming or making noise going to accomplish or prove? It hurts! I had a very quick labor with my son, my first pregnancy...I went into labor at exactly 8pm and he was born exactly at 1045pm...yes, it hurt, and yes, I was screaming.

Did she do her homework or read up on any of the news on Tom Cruise before getting herself involved?

IP: Logged

cancerrg
Knowflake

Posts: 2668
From:
Registered: Dec 2004

posted October 12, 2005 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message
i didn't know he was such a big idiot , thank god , i have never been his fan .

i like katie for her carefree attitude .

IP: Logged

cancerrg
Knowflake

Posts: 2668
From:
Registered: Dec 2004

posted October 12, 2005 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
All that crap about lovemaking beingfor procreation only..every seed is sacred.

Just put a single question to those idiots ,sue.
what about the seeds that they and most of the men go and give to the w*****.
ironically even w***** are created by that system only .
ask them how do they justify it?

IP: Logged

angel_of_hope
Moderator

Posts: 1394
From: Palmer, AK
Registered: Jul 2004

posted October 12, 2005 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
I just read this the other morning ...

From: Chicago Sun Times!

PLACID BIRTH?

According to the teachings of the Church of Scientology, pregnant women are encouraged to give birth
silently, as Scientologists believe a baby can be traumatized by hearing his or her mother scream or
moan during the process of childbirth. Given that some people think the church discourages the use of
drugs, it sounds as if Katie Holmes faces quite a challenge when she delivers Tom Cruise's child early
next year.

In L. Ron Hubbard's seminal book, Dianetics, the Scientologists' founder wrote, "Maintain silence in the
presence of birth to save the sanity of the mother and the child and safeguard the home to which they
will go."

While Church of Scientology spokesman Greg LeClaire confirms the church supports the concept of
silent birth, he stresses that "this is something entirely between the mother and her doctor. ...
We do not interfere in the private lives of our parishioners. This is something that is an option,
nothing more." LeClaire explained that Scientologists who practice the concept of silent birth do so
believing all "words have meanings and can impart subconscious ideas" into a newborn's brain, which
later can trigger opinions that may not be positive.

LeClaire also said Thursday the church does not ban pain-killers and any suggestion to the contrary
is "totally false."

----

I didnt know Travolta and his wife were followers of this scientology way of life. From what ive read its mr travolta thats urging katie to havea silent birth. Although as stated above , its not required. Words do have power as we all know, i guess thats what thier trying to prevent is stress on the child. All in all, it does seem strange though. Although i dont know much about this scientology to begin with.

hrmmmmph ...

IP: Logged

future_uncertain
Knowflake

Posts: 2681
From: ohio
Registered: Aug 2004

posted October 12, 2005 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for future_uncertain     Edit/Delete Message
fa-reaky!

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2007

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a