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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005

posted June 10, 2006 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
ariestiger
artlovesdawn
Thank you both!
He is past the danger now. He must still get check ups and be careful when he is sick or has dental work done...but otherwise lives a normal life now.

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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lovely*
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posted June 12, 2006 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
i like that name "Fate"~ good to hear your son is stable.

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Kim Rogers
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From: Watertown MN USA
Registered: Apr 2006

posted June 12, 2006 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kim Rogers     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Fayte,

Sorry to hear about the anguish people have put you through. That sh*t is unbelievable.

I don't know what neighborhood Schrodingers cat is in, but I think I'll stay away from there!

Other than mean people it sounds like we have a lot in common. I'm glad your son is doing well.


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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted June 12, 2006 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
lovely* & Kim Rogers
Thank you both!

Kim

Schrödinger's cat:
Schrödinger's cat is a seemingly paradoxical thought experiment devised by Erwin Schrödinger that attempts to illustrate the incompleteness of an early interpretation of quantum mechanics when going from subatomic to macroscopic systems. The experiment proposes:

A cat is placed in a sealed box. Attached to the box is an apparatus containing a radioactive nucleus and a canister of poison gas. This apparatus is separated from the cat in such a way that the cat can in no way interfere with it. The experiment is set up so that there is exactly a 50% chance of the nucleus decaying in one hour. If the nucleus decays, it will emit a particle that triggers the apparatus, which opens the canister and kills the cat. If the nucleus does not decay, then the cat remains alive. According to quantum mechanics, the unobserved nucleus is described as a superposition (meaning it exists partly as each simultaneously) of "decayed nucleus" and "undecayed nucleus". However, when the box is opened the experimenter sees only a "decayed nucleus/dead cat" or an "undecayed nucleus/living cat."
The question is: when does the system stop existing as a mixture of states and become one or the other? (See basis function.) The purpose of the experiment is to illustrate a paradox; as Schrödinger wrote, "The (wavefunction) for the entire system (has) the living and the dead cat (pardon the expression) mixed or smeared out in equal parts".[1] Because we cannot get along without making classical approximations, quantum mechanics is incomplete without some rules to relate the classical and quantum descriptions. One way of looking at this connection is to say that the wavefunction collapses and the cat becomes dead or remains alive instead of a mixture of both.

The point of view that this thought experiment most clearly refutes is that the laws of physics are different for experiments than for other interactions. In the case of the cat dying, a necropsy would show a time of death that would be before the opening of the box. The geiger counter, in moving to one outcome or the other, is, in effect, the "observer", the same as a human observing the outcome with senses.

The original article appeared in the German magazine Naturwissenschaften ("Natural Sciences") in 1935: E. Schrödinger: "Die gegenwärtige Situation in der Quantenmechanik" ("The present situation in quantum mechanics"), Naturwissenschaften, 48, 807, 49, 823, 50, 844 (November 1935). It was intended as a discussion of the EPR article published by Einstein, Podolsky and Rosen in the same year. Apart from introducing the cat, Schrödinger also coined the term "entanglement" (German: Verschränkung) in his article.

Albert Einstein was impressed; in a letter to Schrödinger dated 1950 he wrote:

You are the only contemporary physicist, besides Laue, who sees that one cannot get around the assumption of reality - if only one is honest. Most of them simply do not see what sort of risky game they are playing with reality - reality as something independent of what is experimentally established. Their interpretation is, however, refuted most elegantly by your system of radioactive atom + amplifier + charge of gun powder + cat in a box, in which the psi-function of the system contains both the cat alive and blown to bits. Nobody really doubts that the presence or absence of the cat is something independent of the act of observation.
Nowadays, the mainstream interpretation is that the triggering of the device is the actual observation that collapses the wave function. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schrodinger's_Cat

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Lynx
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From: Brooklyn, New York, United States
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posted June 22, 2006 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message
If I was God, tomorrow at 5:15 PM, every cellphone will be replaced with a dismembered phallus. Just imagine. All these people talking into their weiners.

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lovely*
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From: CA
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posted June 23, 2006 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
lol ..

Lynx.. they could be all shapes/sizes etc. folks would think twice about exposing thier units in pubic.. i mean public, LOL

feeling corny,

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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted June 23, 2006 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
ringing ding dongs
dicktaphones?

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lovely*
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From: CA
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posted June 23, 2006 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
the new motorolla flip dick.

i'll take one of those and use it as my backup phone, but will ALWAYS keep it on vibrate

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pixelpixie
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From: Ontario Canada
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posted June 23, 2006 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

YAY Dirty threads!

Maybe I'd own a cellphone if that were the case.

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braveheart
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From: sydney, nsw, oz
Registered: Jan 2006

posted June 23, 2006 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message
howdy,

talking about old people just today i was forced to slow down in my car by an old man on a rascal. (whenever i see a rascal i think of George Costanza). he was riding down the road totally oblivious to the fact that there was a line of cars behind him. he finally veered off to the side. he could have used the footpath
but chose the road instead. i wonder why?

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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted June 23, 2006 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
In this town those on carts or rascals or bicycles HAVE to use the rosd. It is illegal to use the sidewalk for anything but foot traffic and UNmotorized wheelchairs.
Those laws also state they must drive in the center of the lane they are travelling in. No one is allowed to hog the lane with the bicycles or rascals and force them over.
So maybe this old dude was just obeying the laws.
One is supposed to pass both bikes and rascals as one would pass a car, not sqeezing into the lane beside them forcing them over.

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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MysticMelody
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posted June 23, 2006 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
You have to drive a motorized wheel chair in the road?!?!

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fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
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posted June 23, 2006 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Quote:
You have to drive a motorized wheel chair in the road.

That is what a couple of cops said.
Weird huh?
And several handicapped folks I know of were told to get off the sidewalk with their motorized chairs. So I am not sure about the exact law concerning motorized "wheelchairs". That I suspect is someone's stupid interpretation of foot traffic on sidewalks only.

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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lovely*
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From: CA
Registered: Jul 2003

posted June 24, 2006 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
the motorized wheelchairs are called rascals? weird name for that. wonder what marketing genius came up with that one..

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braveheart
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From: sydney, nsw, oz
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posted June 25, 2006 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message
lovely,

i don't think motorized wheelchairs are called rascals. rascals are a scooter/moped type of bike designed for handicapped or elderly people.

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lovely*
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From: CA
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posted June 28, 2006 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely*     Edit/Delete Message
thanks braveheart! didn't know there was a difference~

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