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Topic: OLD PEOPLE
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writesomething
Moderator Posts: 1313
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 06, 2006 04:37 PM
 
what the hell? i was working out this morning at the park, and my phone rings, i start talking to the person about an upcoming wedding im going to, blah blah im walking around, and i was walking behind this old jerk- and he starts yelling at me "HOW DARE YOU BE ON THE PHONE! you rude kids""go home and talk on the phone" i just gave him a dirty a-- look and said okay assh---...and walked off...WTF? was it rude i was walking around a park talking on my phone? least i wasnt driving or in a movie theater, i dont know why he yelled at me, and usually i dont give a damn, but today it just bothered me...maybe im missing something? ------------------
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WaterNymph
Knowflake Posts: 2276
From: London, UK
Registered: May 2005
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posted June 06, 2006 06:37 PM
omg  @ old people - it's a park!IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 06, 2006 06:47 PM
The only time I get weirded out by folks on cell phones is when You cannot tell if they are on one(those tiny ones with the earphones) and they are talking away waving their arms. Some are talking to themselves and do not have a phone!
Hard to tell sometimes.
The only time I hate it is when I am at the opera or having a nice dinner and some fool is chatting loudly like they want everyone to see how cool they are or something.
Cell phone user acceptance or etiquette of cell phone users in public has nothing to do with age.THere are rude users in public and folks unjustly rude to non rude users.
Otherwise....
Cell phones are cool by me.  ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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Yang
Knowflake Posts: 2296
From: A temporary home
Registered: May 2004
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posted June 06, 2006 08:37 PM
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pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 06, 2006 08:45 PM
Grumpy people are everywhere ( and not afraid to let you know)I only have legit complaints about cell phones. I found it funny that he grumbled about 'young people on the phone, blah blah blah'
and you grumble about 'old people and their stupid complaints' Once I was canvassing, as a teenager ( door to door sales) and this guy let me go through a spiel, and rather than commenting on anything I said, he got ANGRY at me for wearing jeans with a rip in the knee.
( They were stylish and not a big gaping rip)
I thought.. wow, get a life, dude. So yeah, some people's children, and some people with grandchildren, need to take a chill pill and complain about things that are actually real. IP: Logged |
Inner depths
Knowflake Posts: 327
From: The Greatest Outdoor Show on Earth City!
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 08, 2006 01:34 AM
The elderly can be the quirkiest of the bunch on this rock. Some of them you have to mute them from your hearing and just walk on by.ID IP: Logged |
MysticMelody
Moderator Posts: 3521
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Registered: Dec 2005
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posted June 08, 2006 01:52 PM
OR maybe he wanted to "get away from it all" and enjoy the peacefulness of the park.
My Libra sun has to offer you the "other side" and my Cap moon agrees with the old goat. This world is already too noisy.
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Mama Mia
Knowflake Posts: 2320
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Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 08, 2006 01:55 PM
He could have just been dealing with his Dementia or Alhziemers.. You never know..
I would have just ignored him.. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 08, 2006 05:36 PM
So.....
What AGE does everyone consider as old?When does OLD begin? Is it age or action or both that determine your opinon? 
PS. I sat down on a park bench once and was minding my own business. Another person came and sat down. Their cell phone rang, they answered, turned to me and loudly and rudely said; "Do you mind?! I could use a little privacy here!".
Huh? 
I was sitting there first!
This is one of many rude cell phone users I have seen. Most do not act rude but too many do.  ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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writesomething
Moderator Posts: 1313
From: meet me in montauk
Registered: May 2006
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posted June 08, 2006 05:45 PM
He was in his late 70s- early 80s....im guessing...------------------
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fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 08, 2006 05:49 PM
He might have been senile then.
Or maybe he had previously encountered a rude jackass like the one in my previous post.
Who knows?  ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS- IP: Logged |
Hexxie
Knowflake Posts: 934
From: :::Libra Sun / 29* Gemini Rising / Aquarius Moon:::
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted June 08, 2006 06:42 PM
LOL I was just thinking old peoples were pretty funy in their crusty crabbiness... I was crossing the street today in a cross walk. So as i'm walkin along there is this old lady in her big ol' old lady car and she's stopped mostly inside the crosswalk and rolling her window down. I think hmmm what's this gal doin. Apparently some other people decided to walk down the street a lil bit and cross so they wouldn't have to go through the cross walk for some reason. This old lady stopped for them but she rolled her window down to yell at them and giv 'em hell. It made me laugh ------------------
`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll
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NOVA
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Registered: Jun 2006
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posted June 09, 2006 01:04 AM
Fayte has a point.... what age is OLD? Age is relative... if everyone here is under 30 then maybe someone 50 is considered old.. and rudeness knows no bounds... many young people from children to teens and young adults are rude... seems to me when rudeness confronts it is up to each of us to lighten it up as much as possible... or totally ignore and smile... defending or replying is still engaging in the energy... and only feeds the negative spiral.anyway thats my perspective...(and I may be "old" to you) all in all giving everyone the benefit of the doubt is compassionate. Rudeness is hardly ever about the event that seems to have provoked it. Have you ever surprised a rude person by being really nice? It stops the whole drama and at least one of you goes away happy.... and often both! I also have no idea what an old lady car is, someone please enlighten me... IP: Logged |
lovely*
Knowflake Posts: 2141
From: CA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted June 09, 2006 02:00 AM
I have to say, I agree with the old sandbag. You are working out at the park. Why do you need to be yammering away on your cell phone. People tend to speak in elevated voices on thier cells, I guess to compensate for not being face to face. It's the projection of ones voice I find irritating. It's ok, I'm guilty of talking on my phone at the park too. I'm still annoyed with myself though and I'm really concious of it as you can see  Oh and I don't like those little ear TRON thingies. They make people look like cyborgs. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 09, 2006 08:51 AM
Rudeness from old folks may sometimes have reasons. Being disabled myself I have experienced much of the same as another poster(Peajie) did:
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"Try being a sensitive, caring and understanding being who is continually shouted at and abused by passing teenage girls without any provocation !Twice recently I have only just avoided being run down by young girls in cars who actually mounted the pavement (both times)to see if I could jump out of the way quick enough."
Part of my reply to that:
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It is no fun to be old or disabled. People will be cruel.
I was ran down by a young guy on purpose on a dirtbike because he though it was funny that I use a cane. He caused me to suffer injury to my neck....that leaves me blind some mornings. Then another girl/woman ....on crack...chased me out of the apartment laundry room at gunpoint and I fell and broke some ribs. Why she did this? She said it was just a joke..big ha ha! She wanted to see if I was really disabled and if I could throw down my cane and run. Well...I tried...and I am still screwed up from that.
The gun was real and it was loaded!
So in addition to the fact that I had already been disabled for almost 15 years...the things they did because they got a kick out of tormenting me because I am not as young as them...and I am disabled....
well now I live with the pain..and episodes of blindness..in addition to my other physical troubles.
So if you think you are the only one being abused by the younger generation...well you are not! But all young people are Not like that!
In fact many old folks who are still amazingly fit as fiddles...ridicule me and brag about being so healthy and fit...at 84...or down to 55 years old.
Well excuse me ladies and gentlemen!!!!!
You got lucky! But to have them tell me it is all in my head really galls me! I feel like shoving my MRIs and cat scans and nerve conduction studies..X-rays...and all that into their stupid old faces!!!!!!
So even old folks and young can be rude in the extremes!
I had a stroke a little over a year ago...
Can you believe it...people have the nerve to say....you seem ok now...so it couldn't have really been a stroke!
Gads! Again ....ladies and gentlemen...were you there when I forgot my name? How to walk?
What the hell a telephone was for? Did you see me drooling and other very not normal things?
Of course not!!!!!!
But people can be really stupid and mean to the elderly and the disabled. Including the elderly themselves!
But not every one is.
And nice or not nice...
Again age is Not a real factor when it comes to being rude or cruel, or considerate and kind.
The only exceptionI have seen is the boomboxing folks who are(at least around here) Young. They play the bass so loud it rattles my windows and vibrates my floors. There is no escaping their noise.
Ask them to turn it down and the next thing you know is they turn it Up! That crap happens even at 4am! Or all night! Then they shoot out your windows with BB guns and pour gas in your yard and drive over your mailbox. Or put used rubbers in it. Ugh! Try sitting out in your own yard working on flower beds and have some young boomboxing jerk lob a beer bottle at your head(up to driving into one's driveway to accomplish this deed!) and maybe you can all see why old folks or disabled folks get cranky and wary/paranoid around younger folks, even unjustly rude at times. It is often out of fear because a younger person has indeed attacked them before.
Again, not all young people are rude and not all old people are cranky without just cause.
But once attacked or harmed it is hard to feel comfortable at first.
So I wonder if that old coot was just being a crass old bast-rd, or did someone with a cell phone recently try to hurt him or his property? Did some boomboxers rattle his windows all night, night after night disturbing his sleep? Did a cell phone user do to him what that one did to me another day as I spoke of above:
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"I sat down on a park bench once and was minding my own business. Another person came and sat down. Their cell phone rang, they answered, turned to me and loudly and rudely said; "Do you mind?! I could use a little privacy here!".
Huh?
I was sitting there first!
This is one of many rude cell phone users I have seen. Most do not act rude but too many do."
So that crabby old dude being rude...as to why he was...which was still rude I do agree....but as to the whys behind his unprovoked rude reaction..
Only he knows.
Ok..
Rant over.
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-
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TINK
Knowflake Posts: 3831
From: New England
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted June 09, 2006 09:23 AM
We might be accustomed to it, but if the man was 70 years old or so he's lived the majority of his life without the constant intrusion of electronic gadgets. He's just geared to a slower, quieter pace of life. He also seems to be a member of the older generations who felt they had a God-given right to cuss out the young 'uns whenever they saw fit.  Personally, I'm not a big fan of private phone conversations held in public places. Not to say that I haven't made or received a few cell phone calls in public myself. I make it a point to find a quiet corner though. Well, I made it a point. I tossed the damn thing a few months ago on principle. $300 to cancel my contract. Bast@rds. But it was soooo worth it. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
Knowflake Posts: 5301
From: Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 09, 2006 09:45 AM
I am not of the cell phone savvy.I can think of maybe three occasions in an entire year when I'd like a cell phone.. the other times they'd just annoy me.
I suppose it isn't very technologically advanced of me, but I simply don't need to be reached at all times.
Sometimes the Hubs will go to the store, and I will think of a few more things we need, and then, I want to call him... but really... we just go out again later...(or reassess the importnce of said things) it's not a big deal. If I were a business owner, I'd get one.. but until then, ***PPPPPTTTTHHHHH******* to cell phones.
And I am uber polite, so I'd be conscientious of my usage. There are rude people of every age. I know, I have met them all. hehe.
Maybe they've had a bad day, maybe they are just cranks. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 09, 2006 09:51 AM
I have and use a cell phone too.
But like you TINK & Pixie, I try to be considerate of folks around me.
Cell phones are great in emergencies! Or for when out shopping and to call home and ask what to buy...or when someone is driving a long way alone they can call in from time to time saying where they are or when they will arrive.
Cell phones are not bad at all. But rudeness unwarranted towards and from cell phone users is just plain uncalled for.Pixie!
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"but I simply don't need to be reached at all times." We have a friend who complained that she cannot get any free time to herself! She comes to visit us, bringing along her cell phone. One time she came to visit us, her cell phone went off 6 times! It was insane! She spent almost the entire two hours at our place on her cell phone, apologizing for all the interruptions, saying sorry, sorry, I just cannot get people to realize I NEED time to do my own thing!
HUH?
Well leave the damn cell phone at home for crying out loud!
Well next time she did! It was very liberating for her! ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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lovely*
Knowflake Posts: 2141
From: CA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted June 09, 2006 01:08 PM
Hey guys, how do you feel about kids taking cell phones to school?..in my daughters school parent handbook..they actually have a "cell phone policy". I have no problem with being accessible 100% of the time, if I don't want to be available I hold down the red button. I like it that way. It's a matter of being conscientious in public. Driving 25 mph in a 40 zone because your'e engrossed in a conversation..or running stop signs,wandering into someone's lane carelessly. Both of which I witnessed on the way to pick up dear daughter from school yesterday. These camera phones are a pain in the butt too lately. You can't use your cell in the ladies locker room at most gyms because there is this fear of pranksters snapping shots of fat naked people and posting them on the Internet. IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 09, 2006 01:37 PM
I wish I had one when my son was little. He had a bad heart condition and it would have come in handy for him to have one in emergencies which often came up. Yes, with certain rules applied, I think it is good for kids. At home he used a 2 way radio to contact me if he was having troubles when out of my sight line.
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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Venusian Love
Knowflake Posts: 782
From: NYC
Registered: Jun 2006
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posted June 09, 2006 01:46 PM
I've delt with those cranky old people many times.
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Things base and vile, holding no quantity,
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Love looks not with the eye, but with the mind,
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind. -William Shakespeare IP: Logged |
lovely*
Knowflake Posts: 2141
From: CA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted June 09, 2006 08:10 PM
oh how sad. how old is your son fayte? also is your name pronounced "FAY-TEE" or "FATE"~ IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 9809
From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted June 09, 2006 09:54 PM
lovely*
My son is almost 25 now!
He had a heart attack at age 16 and has been blessedly ok since then. His heart trouble was found when he was 7 years old.
It was scary.
My name is pronounced FATE. In fact Fate was my great grandfather's real name. My name is Faye. I "stole" his letter "T" and added it to Faye+t=Fayte ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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ariestiger
Knowflake Posts: 1136
From: UK
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted June 10, 2006 04:00 AM
Fayte, you have my sympathy.  AT IP: Logged |
artlovesdawn
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posted June 10, 2006 11:40 AM
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