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Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 17, 2006 09:54 PM
That is ******** . All children are "born" innocent but that's as far as it goes. You, as a parent, are the most influential human being in your child's life. If you are not teaching your child right from wrong and living an admiral life, you are not strengthening their ego and superego...and all that is left is id. ------------------ I'm mad, you're mad, we're all mad. - Cheshire Cat IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted September 17, 2006 09:58 PM
I didn't disagree with you???IP: Logged |
Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 17, 2006 10:04 PM
You said that all children "are" innocent, rather than all children are "born" innocent. The latter implies that children are initially innocent but can change, whereas the former implies that children, by their very nature of being children, are innocent. You were born blonde. You are blonde. See the difference? ------------------ I'm mad, you're mad, we're all mad. - Cheshire Cat IP: Logged |
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posted September 17, 2006 10:16 PM
You are mistaken, I believe..children are all innocent til the age of 7..then there can be bad reprecussions. ...Universal Laws..quick IN...IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 715 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 17, 2006 10:38 PM
I love video games. I really love playing the Sims 2. That's good fun when I need to unwind 
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SunChild Moderator Posts: 2368 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 18, 2006 07:07 PM
I think some video games are too voilent. They're sickening. I played one the other day and I really hated shooting people. lol....  I'd rather play pacman or tetris. My kids can play non-voilent games. I even find voilence on tv really offensive so I switch it off. I was watching the news recently and some parents are blaming voilent video games for their kids suddenly wanting guns to play with. I think it does have some influence, but it depends on how stable the child is.
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Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 10:34 AM
I have not bought this stuff for my kids. They are 6 and 9. Mostly, because they really haven't asked for them... yet. I never got into them myself, but when I was a teenager, Atari was just coming about. PacMan, Space Invanders at the Arcade in the Mall.lol... My kids, at least right now, prefer to play outside. At night, we go to Nick Jr. online and do stuff.... There are some really good Math websites as well. But to be honest, after, Dance or Soccer, dinner and homework.. There is barely time for a quick game of Bingo or "Sorry" Bath and read a Story.... We are all too tired to do anything else... I dread it when they start asking... I really don't know the first thing about them...  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 5366 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 01:58 PM
I watched the Cruel Intentions show. That really was quite disturbing. You can't take these news pieces as being everyone's reality, though. Not ALL teenagers are going to be that rude. Still, if I were a parent, I'd keep my eyes open, and speak up if something resembling having that mindset cropped up within them.I don't know what to say about video games. I've a 5th House moon, so I love games. I probably would turn into my mom if I had a child in the house. She was always shooing me out of the house telling me to go play outside with friends. IP: Logged |
Isis Newflake Posts: 1 From: Brisbane, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 02:15 PM
I agree with you on most of your points Lynx, especially regarding the fact that firearms once upon a time were a fact of life, and teens didn't go on rampages. I think the main problem is that people are working more and using things like the TV and video games to babysit their children. I've been an avid gamer since my Dad bought Pong in 1978. I love video games - believe it or not, they can help to teach things like critical thinking, problem solving skills, project planning, and even hand eye coordination. But like AG mentioned, my mom would also tell me to go out and play. And I loved to go out and play as much as I loved my Atari 2600. IMO the key is, just like TV, knowing what they're playing and how much, ensuring that the games they are playing aren't voilent, and making sure that they have more to their life than just video games. Games like San Andreas and HALO are rated Mature and are designed for adults. I won't deny they wouldn't love to market them to kids, they want to make a buck sure, but ultimately it's up to the parents to keep those games out of their kids hands IMO. As an adult gamer, I don't think they should stop making certain games because of children. I think parents should do their job and pay attention to what their children are doing/playing, and keep the games out of their kids hands. IP: Logged |
Johnny Newflake Posts: 0 From: Egypt Registered: Apr 2010
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posted September 19, 2006 04:39 PM
Interesting post, Isis. Any thoughts on MMORPGs? (World of Warcraft and the rest) I've avoided all of 'em like the plague - hear they're terribly addictive. But I'd be curious what you all think of them.While we're talking about games, everyone who doesn't think they'll corrupt your soul or whatever should try N (free, flash-based ninja game): http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n.html IP: Logged |
Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 19, 2006 08:19 PM
AG, you know you'd tell them to go out and play so you'd get access to the games. LOL. While we are on the talk of games, the one I really like is http://www.silkroadonline.net It's a free MMORPG and the graphics are fantastic.
I think MMORPGS are just as addictive as any other game. Actually, I think the worst game ever is the Sims. That game...I could be on that game for 6 hours and think I've only been on for an hour. ------------------ I'm mad, you're mad, we're all mad. - Cheshire Cat IP: Logged |
Isis Newflake Posts: 1 From: Brisbane, Australia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 20, 2006 12:38 AM
I love MMORPGs - I've been playing EQ2 for a couple years now and played the PS2 version of EQ before that. I've also dabbled a bit in UO and SWG. I know there are just sooo many other products out there, but MMOs can be a time sink, so I find that one game at a time is more than enough. MMORPGs aren't good IMO for people with obsessive personalities, addictive personalities, or those that have little to no self discipline. In that case, it could (and I've read it has been) as damaging as alcohol abuse can be. Like people losing their jobs, not eating, blowing all their money on in-game currency and items, becoming emotionally dependant on superficial relationships within the game.... But the majority of people who play seem to have balanced their gaming with their real life responsibilities. I've never played Sims, but SimCity 2000 used to steal hours from me without me even knowing it. LOL IP: Logged |
Lynx Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted September 21, 2006 01:01 AM
Thing that got me is, one of these MMORPGs(probably Everquest) has an option to allow gamers to order pizza from Pizzahut through their computer. I mean, the game is so important that they can't get up to use the phone and have it delivered? Holy **** , Batman. ------------------ I'm mad, you're mad, we're all mad. - Cheshire Cat IP: Logged |
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posted September 21, 2006 07:43 AM
*Points a BFG at lotusheartone*Say one more word and I'll blast you homie! CJ GET THE CAR! lets ice her!  Video games rock!!!!!! but obviously there should be a blance... From dangerous dave to war3...they mean a lot to me..game fan in general...not just video,pc too... Systems owned:atari(dad's),atari 2600(dad's again),nintendo(original 8bit),sega,playstation2...And pc of course!....and ps3 soon!  Anybody like devil may cry here?
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pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 220 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2006 12:03 AM
Bumped for relevence( I was looking for another thread, but this seems to be a hot topic.) My son had a twelfth birthday recently, he got a Nintendo DS Lite hand held thingy, and he loves it! You know what he bought, and was super excited about? Nintendogs.. he has two huskies that he trains. You can also get games specifically to strengthen your brain power. Nothing wrong with that. IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 16, 2006 12:36 AM
Oooo videogames...having gotten back into them, I find myself hearing the whole videogames leading to violence thing WAY too often, and I do not believe it to be true. My gamer bf and I have discussed this repeatedly, and I have done some background work into family violence, and unfortunately it seems like domestic violence is overlooked. I worked at a non-profit a couple of years ago who surveyed high schoolers and 40% of them had witnessed violence in their homes between actual people! And yet I don't often hear that talked about as the cause of violent crimes. No, instead its videogames, TV, movies, rap music...and there are also some kids who grow up having mental issues that may lead to violence. It just seems like videogames are an easy scapegoat. Yes, there are some violent ones, but there were violent ones even back when Atari existed. Games like Chopper Command where you fly a helicopter and shoot at other jets and helicopters. In fact a lot of Atari games were shooting at things. And this was in the 80s! Which means people who are now in their 40s possibly played those games. If videogames really did turn people into mass murdering shooters, then people in their 40s right down to babies should be running around killing. There should be mass murders! But there aren't. I grew up with videogames. I played violent ones even when I was young, and I used to play them for long periods of time. I've never been in trouble with the law. Ever. I'm 24. I have 3.77 GPA. I get outside. I get exercise. I go to college. If videogames were as bad as people want to believe, how did this happen? When others were out getting into fights, getting pregnant at a young age, shooting each other, doing drugs, I was playing videogames. A couple of years ago I stopped playing videogames, and I fell into a social youth oriented music scene. You know what? That was more violent than videogames were, and because it was more violent, I left, and I've gone back to videogames. Also, for every videogame out there thats really violent, there's a lot of ones that engage the mind. Nintendo has been gearing games towards this as well. Brain Age and Big Brain Academy have little educational games on them (if you're familiar with Sudoku, I know one of them has that on it as well!). I feel a little defensive about it because it's a favorite pasttime for me and a lot of my friends, and none of my friends are bad kids, and most of them are avid gamers. It's a past time, just as bowling, rollerskating, dancing have been pasttimes. And look at pasttimes that have been around, like hunting, or rugby. They are both rather violent. In hunting you shoot things and they die, and it's extremely realistic, because it IS real life. Rugby, they run into each other, tackle each other, to get a ball! Wrestling and boxing! These things existed before videogames and they are violent. As I said, it's obvious that videogames are being used as a scapegoat to cover up bigger, more widespread social issues that most people don't want to deal with because they are very hard, very ingrained into our society. I also wanted to add that some of the coolest, nicest people I've met are gamers, people who have been better friends to me than people outside of that realm. I've found games to actually be a POSITIVE social experience. It's kind of the glue that holds some of my friends and I together, friends who are really supportive and kind. Games don't make bad people. Something else does. http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20051012 IP: Logged |
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posted December 16, 2006 12:51 AM
Perhaps, One could think of many other things to do with One's TIME,video games, TV, even the Internet are distractions.. from knowing the True God. ... it's your Free Wi11, do as you like  IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 16, 2006 12:57 AM
Well now the issue is that you are not allowing others to believe what they want, whether there is a God or not. I personally do not believe in A God.Leisure is a big thing for me to release stress. Games for me are leisure, and a stress release. My time is for me to say what I want to use it for, it is shameful for you to judge me for how to choose to live my life. Also, the guilt trip you are attempting is manipulation, and manipulation is True Abuse. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted December 16, 2006 12:59 AM
that is not what I said and your actions speak loud and clear for you
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virgotaurustaurus unregistered
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posted December 16, 2006 01:03 AM
I can read, do not patronize me. I know what you said, it is right there. Your twisting of words would work if this was in person and there was no record of your previous words, but things are in print here. I can look back. But, I shall leave you to your ignorance and your attempts to control what I believe and how I want to spent my time with passive-aggressiveness, I've dealt with your kind before, and I will not cave into it. If you think I will not reach your True God for playing videogames, then so be it. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone unregistered
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posted December 16, 2006 01:04 AM
that is not what I said...
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posted December 16, 2006 01:06 AM
If you say so, sick lady!  IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor unregistered
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posted December 16, 2006 02:06 AM
Normally, I wouldn't even read a post about video games... I have no interest personally in them, and no children I would feel obligated to protect.the friends I had who were gamers were generally slackers, and a had a boyfriend who was obsessed with Evercrack- most boring relationship I was ever in.. But THEN... in my net wanderings, after I read this thread, I stumbled onto this... very icky... Quote:
What's the fun of enjoying your second life in Second Life without a little ultraviolence? Click the above to enlarge. We're not as conversant with SL's moral conventions as your average nerd, but it surprises even our jaded souls that you can indulge in rape fantasies (options: "Rape victim," "Get raped," or "Hold victim") for a trifling 220 Linden dollar things. Nice that the purchase takes place in an evocative back alley, with the actual rape set in some kind of red cobblestone gimp-dungeon. End of disturbing quote.. Pretty f'ing bad, don't you think? here's the link, if you really want to go there... http://www.gawker.com/news/second-life/second-life-rape-for-sale-222099.php This, I feel, is less a comment on video games and more a statement on society. It's wretched. MK IP: Logged |
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posted December 16, 2006 02:11 AM
^^ I've never heard of that game....yuck.. P.S:It would be more appropriate to classify that as interactive harcore porn,rather than a video game...
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Xodian Moderator Posts: 302 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2006 09:42 AM
quote: Perhaps, One could think of many other things to do with One's TIME, video games, TV, even the Internet are distractions..from knowing the True God. ... it's your Free Wi11, do as you like
God also placed the burden on a true believer to not judge his/her fellow being's actions. "Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged." Some would call Video games a distraction but yet Japan has encouraged the use of them amoung its teenagers (non-violent titles mind you.) According to Jackson et al (2006,) "playing videogames, especially those games that are solution-based video games, has a positive impact on children's cognitive skills (in logic thinking for example.) The reasoning behind this is simple: In a typical hit title VG, you're given a goal and an obsticle. There are many solutions to getting past the problem and getting to the goal. The player just has to get creative and think about how he/she will reach that goal. This promotes creative reasoning at an early age with is a VERY important skill especially for the modern workforce. And the little bit on VGs protoming violence. Some do, some don't. Please have a read: http://www.physorg.com/news5758.html IP: Logged | |