posted May 11, 2007 10:15 AM         

There used to be a store in the mall here whose clothes did not go past a size 9. In my younger days I used to shop there because it was the only store where I could get jeans that fit. It was never crowded and it didn't stay in business long. There is still a Lane Bryant store in the mall and malls everywhere. They also do a huge catalog business.

That should be a big clue to Kate Moss.

posted May 11, 2007 10:18 AM         

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I know that you didn't say that about all Taureans, MCM. Sorry if what I said seemed to imply that you did. I was more addressing your comment that fat women should eat less. Doesn't always work. Eating is not always the reason that people are overweight.

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And to add on to what Mirandee just said its actually wrong and dangerous to advocate something like that. It can have really bad effects on one's body. A physician would know the solution to help someone who unhealthily overweight (note the emphasis on unhealthily).

Now it is wrong to advocate such a thing and the reason is basically Human Biology 101: the less you eat, the more strongly your body holds onto your weight as opposed you losing the weight.

posted May 11, 2007 12:04 PM         

You have to eat to keep the body functioning properly. That's why anorexics eventually die if they can't overcome it with help.

Fasting will cause weight lost for sure. At first. But once the body has used up the fat storage supply it looks for other sources to maintain itself with the protein etc. it needs. Our body's defense mechanisms kick in to keep us alive any way it can. Those other sources are the organs of the body such as the heart, liver etc. The body actually feeds on itself.

I am no expert in biology but my doctor educated me very well on the effects of anorexia when I sought help because I could actually no longer eat without having an axiety attack. At the time I was 5'6 and weighed 95 lbs. 120-130 lbs. is a healthy, normal weight range for my bone structure.

I think that many of the health issues that I have today are a result of that starvation time in my life. And that period of my life was just awful. A nightmare.

posted May 11, 2007 03:41 PM         

I didn't know that Lane Bryant had changed it's name, Fayte. Thanks for the info.

posted May 11, 2007 03:43 PM         

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11 Stones is 70 kg. I don't know what that is in pounds.

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posted May 11, 2007 04:41 PM         

11 st = 154 lb

posted May 11, 2007 06:44 PM         

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No, now that is largely incorrect. Not all earth is like that. You see, saturn the planet of restriction, the opposite of Juipter's expansionism, rules Capricorn. Therefore, people who have a significant Capricorn or Saturn placement in their chart (like in the top three) have a propensity to be wiry, not fat . And that again, is saturn being "restrictive" on weight as opposed to being expansive like Jupiter.

Virgo influence tends to have the same effect as Capricorn being ruled by Mercury.....people heavily influenced by it are thin much like their gemini counterparts.

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well thats true, i am virgo rising and i'm not fat to say the least, and also Naomi Campbell is Capricorn Rising.

well i hope i'm not on anyone's fat list, don't mean to sound vain at all, but i'm actually quite happy with my size, i'm 5'4, 139lb, 24.5(waist), 34.5 hip, & 38B, i'm satisfied with (most) of my genetics and astrological makeup, along with being proportioned right. Its weird because i'm not skinny, i'm a bit thin, and no where near fat, i consider myself curvy i guess.

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posted May 11, 2007 06:48 PM         

I have a friend whose family genetics just works against her. Her entire family is extremely tall and built large. Basically, she eats a candy bar and gains ten pounds. She went vegetarian to try and keep weight off. When we were in HS she employed the "Meth Diet" (that was incidentally the only time she was "thin")... She's also become an exercise fanatic to try and keep her weight down (to little avail).

By some people's estimation of how "fat people" get and stay fat, she and her whole family must just be a bunch of lazy people who don't care about themselves. Staying anywhere near a "healthy" weight is a very real, constant, daily struggle for her.

posted May 11, 2007 06:51 PM         

you can do it at that website,

mine is 23.7 (considered healthy at 5'4)

posted May 11, 2007 07:15 PM         

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That example that someone came up with incolving that huge old woman must have had some Earth that they didn't know about.

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I'm telling you that no Earth (which is fairly rare anyway) means thin and non-weight-retentive. Fact.

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posted May 11, 2007 10:01 PM         

That's mind boggling. I'm over 11 stone.

posted May 11, 2007 10:09 PM         

I guess that shows the state of things when average women are considered FAT and the small percentage of people that are naturally (or unnaturally as the case may be) skinny are considered the ideal.

I think that's sad. There's room for all of us, dammit. - and room for all kinds of designers. I just wish an unrealistic ideal wasn't always thrust at us.

OH and I'm teetering between a 12T and a 14T at Lane Bryant. I love their tall pants - thank all that's good. Lane Bryant is awesome. AWESOME.

posted May 12, 2007 02:59 AM         

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As it turns out, I now weigh around 70 kg (I'm 151 lbs/5"4"). Guess that puts me on MCM's fat list.

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posted May 12, 2007 08:08 AM         

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Yep you're on it. 5 foot 4'' and 11 stone is obese.

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Actually did my BMI. Turns out I'm not obese at all, I'm only slightly overweight.Too bad for you

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am at least double your weight so to me you are a thin lady!

Sounds like a perfect weight for you and you look great in your pictures

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Thanks Fayte! But look so pretty yourself, with those nice eyes! Though I'm afraid it been bad for my back at night since I gained it in such a short period of time. Though, I think the only places I've noticeably gained are around my mid-drift and my hips; because other than that....no one has noticed. I'm goaling to go back to atleast 140lbs.

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Don't feel bad DL - I'd rank on her fat list too. What's worse, I don't eat a lot. I guess I'm reaching that age where weight doesn't just fall off with minimal effort.

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Thanks Isis, but for me it was bad eating habits. I've gained 20 pounds within a span of 6 months. Back in September I weighed like 128 lbs! What had happened is that I switched to a State College that happens to be like 5 minutes away from the mall. Now that Mall happens to have some GREAT Indian food and I kept going there for some everytime I had a lunch break last semester. Indian food in and of itself is not even bad for you (its actually very healthy for you, along with Southeast Asian food if you go to the right restaurant). But it was the portions they serve you there that did me in. That coupled with the fact that I've been having BIG traditional meals at lunchtime since my gramps arrived in on the 29th of Nov. We usually only have them at dinner.

And also, I've suddenly acquired this big sweet tooth (that's T-Jupiter opposing my Venus as I've found out). I had to go get my first Cavity filled. Oh man.....