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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted June 29, 2007 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
Guys I am sorry but I am going to have to close this thread too if it keeps up this way because it is turning ugly and MK just put in a post about what has been going on.

I don't want people leaving LL because of all the pollution. We are supposed to be kind of a family here and be one and all that. So it upsets people to see these things on the boards.

Thank you Peri. That means a lot to me. You will never know how much.

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 29, 2007 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I have had enough of this issue and I am going to let others deal with it now. I'm not playing this game of chess. It has become a labyrinth.

I only want to say, on the issue of 'others being beaten up', that two wrongs do not make a right.

And I would NOT say I was being 'codependent'

Empathy and sympathy.

Leave it at that.

I do not wish to be involved any more

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 29, 2007 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and the world will go blind....and toothless

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 29, 2007 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
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Swerve
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posted June 29, 2007 05:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swerve     Edit/Delete Message
In all of this diatribe and ranting and self-pity and accusation, the lot of you have long forgotten the most basic ingredient for any meaningful communication.

Though admittedly I see signs of this improving already from some.

Respect.

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 29, 2007 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I am still feeling really hurt from the 'codependent' remark when all I did was try and reach out and protect someone's wounded heart....the empathy in this only came from having experienced it in the past....

I apologize if I have hurt others by not giving enough empathy to them, but I don't believe in emotional retribution....I try and see it from their side too....just had a point to make as you have all had yours.....

I went back and noticed Lialei's post. Her words make the most sense here in my opinion.

I just found out my partner's dog; our dog...could be dying.....I have my own problems here to sort out, I am trying to find the strength not to be affected by this business anymore.

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ListensToTrees
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posted June 29, 2007 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I have just been thinking about what I said just bothered me......

And I realize now, it appears to me, that this is what the struggle is all about. The reason I was just affected then was because I was worrying how others would see me. What every individual here seems to be worried about is how others see them, after somebody opposes them or whatever happens.

It is like a constant power struggle. We all like to get along, but when we don't we 'get it on'- when we get older, will we get bolder- and start rubbing shoulders? LOL. Just reminded of me what I heard in a documentary about Mohammad Ali....
"The guy is a phony, and that thing on his head comes from the tail of a pony!"

Well, if this is what being sociable means, then you can count me out of it. I have been thinking lately that my computer takes up quite a lot of space....but....I dunno.....

I think I'll go and rest now, feel drained.

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juniperb
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posted June 29, 2007 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Mirandee,

I can say there sure have been tests and threats for mods here before.Imagine physical and cyber stalking, threats of physical harm, e mail hacking, suicide attempts and on & on.... That was just during my time moderating.


I don`t claim to understand it but it appears to be the nature of the beast. It is cyclic and all the concerned citizens can do is refrain from replying to an antagonist.
It`s really that basic, what if someone started a war and nobody came? Ok trite but thats the idea.

Good luck & may God Bless us each and every one!


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Highly_Inflammable
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posted June 29, 2007 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Highly_Inflammable     Edit/Delete Message
An eye for an eye and the whole world would be blind.
(Khalil Gibran)

... plz get off it, .... Forgive & Move ON ... whoever can.

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I agree with EVERY SINGLE WORD written by blue roamer on this thread.

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fayte.m
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posted June 29, 2007 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
LTT
You seemed to have missed the fact that HSC feels it is fine to talk about the private matters of others, and even make things up,
but his private matters....oddly posted and not private at all;. are to be as he demands, kept private?
He continues to try to put a wedge between Lia and I. Well it won't work!
Love to you Lia!
Mirandee said:
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LTT if you don't see those wounds in others beaten up on you aren't reading my posts. You haven't been reading the posts of those he has hurt either.

So LTT, I wonder how you took the following or if you saw it? HSC tried to defend this statement of what he considers normal social conduct.HSC said:
quote:
Some people are of the ridiculous opinion that everything said in an email ought to be automatically considered private, but this makes no sense to me. Email is just another means of communication. Should we consider everything communicated to us outside of LL, or when no one else was around, as "private", and not to be repeated upon fear of being labelled a betrayer?
HSC now demands his life is private? His stuff freely accessable here posted at LL is private? Since when? But private out of LL stuff of others is fair game for him to use as blackmail and even make up to goad and attack others?
Mirandee said: to HSC
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I do want you to think about all of this and consider that Fayte spoke to you as she did because she is feeling the very same things that you are feeling now. I also want you to consider that Lisa was also very, very hurt by what you did and in fact was feeling suicidal over it just like you. Mainly because she felt it caused her to lose Fayte's friendship and most importantly, Fayte's trust. I want you to think about that, HSC. You hurt people too and they feel just as you are feeling right now.

HSC has put alot of us through hell! You have no real idea what has gone down behind the scenes, with HSC and others who are jealous over Lia and my friendship and our friendships with certain others.
I was hoping all this would blow over even though HSC owes Lia and I and Mirandee some big apologies.
Yet here he is still starting new threads to attack and bemoan his perceived hard life, playing the poor picked on HSC who NEVER did anything cruel nasty or mean and vicious to anyone. Demanding his privacy is to be inviolate but not the rest of us. Making blackmailing suicide threats now to garner sympathy and attention. Name calling again, swearing up a storm.

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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
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posted June 29, 2007 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mirandee     Edit/Delete Message
I am closing this thread now.

I thank all of you who have supported me as a moderator and had kind words to offer. It is so very much appreciated. I am only will make mistakes along the way but I am going to do my best to stop this type of thing from happening at least at FFA. People do not come here for the drama and those that do no one is going to miss when they leave.

What has taken place on three threads here at FFA the past few days goes way beyond what anyone can consider human decency and still go around the boards saying they are spiritual people, they are good people.

HSC I called it emotional blackmail and that is precisely what it is. Your therapist does need to see these threads of yours at LL. It might give her more information to help you.

LTT, I'm sorry honey, I was not speaking about you as being a codependent. I was speaking of those that surround HSC. He is the type of personality that automatically attracts codependent people to him. It is not helpful to him at all.

I realize from your posts, LTT that you are a good person, a spiritual person and that you have a good heart with loads of compassion. I know that you were only trying to help due to all those things. In the process you got in the middle of people working out their evil vengeance and hatred. You got caught in the middle of the games of passive agressive, violent sheep. Those are the wolves in sheep's clothing who project themselves as being good while there is nothing but evil in their hearts.

You did good, LTT. You followed your good heart and conscience and you did the right things, the things that God would like all of us to do. I'm sorry that you got hurt in the process but that kind of goes with being a good person. Evil cannot tolerate good in people and will seek to destroy it.

I was hurt and upset when I wrote that and I didn't clarify that it was not you that I was speaking about as being a codependent. I'm sorry. You are wonderful. And don't let this stop you from doing what you are doing. Just realize that by being good in an evil world you will get hurt for being good. It goes with the territory. See Jesus for a reference as to how far it can go.

HSC you have managed to have three threads closed in just the past three weeks due to your behavior. I personally think that LL has had more than it's share of the drama from you and your friends. Enough is enough. We do not have to come here and be subjected to this on a daily basis. We cannot discuss anything without the disruptions. I'm sorry that you have the burden of mental problems to deal with but it is unkind to work it out on other people. Other people do not have to just take the abuse because you are ill.

Enough of this. This thread is closed.

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