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Topic: Seriously people- WTF is going on?
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Bluemoon Knowflake Posts: 4456 From: Stafford, VA USA Registered: Feb 2005
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posted June 29, 2007 11:45 AM
I just stay away from the drama. It really is a mess.  IP: Logged |
Mirandee Knowflake Posts: 4812 From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer Registered: Sep 2004
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posted June 29, 2007 12:51 PM
Good thinking, Bluemoon Great lexies, Fayte!! IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 5301 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 01, 2007 01:12 AM
i don't know what happened, i wasn't here but now i am intrigued!better that i don't know anyway..... IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor Knowflake Posts: 1140 From: Registered: Oct 2003
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posted July 01, 2007 01:18 AM
oh, pix are you there? Its the late night session.....MK IP: Logged |
Lialei Knowflake Posts: 1887 From: blank canvas Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 12:55 AM
beautiful lexi, Fayte Very inspirational.  I would like to say something. I haven't known whether to or not. Not wanting to bring further attention, but it didn't feel right to leave it as it was and the thread was closed, so I couldn't clear things at the time, so well... It was brought up in the mayhem that I was suicidal and that the last big drama here was the cause. That's not true. What I was going through was much more complicated than that, began a couple of weeks prior to that time, and there was no single incident or single person who could be the cause. There are many layers, going back in time. Although what happened didn't help, it wasn't a direct cause. I'm fine...I'm very embarrassed that something so personal of my soul was exposed here. (again) I know there are many beautiful people here who would be understanding and kind, it's not that I doubt that. It was just something so bare that I hoped to keep to myself. It's not something I can find words for at times and opening, while it seems to help most people, is more harmful to me than good. I get most healing from being introspective and off to myself. On principle, and in good conscience I didn't feel right about leaving it represented as a possibility of being something different then it was. Mom (Mirandee), I understand your intention was of care and wanting to help and from your perspective things might have seemed different than knowing all that was going on internally with me. You were under great stress and doing your best. You're doing a wonderful job as moderator and I'm very proud of your compassion, calm and fairness. (Zala too) I used to always think of this place as a sanctuary, and sometimes lately I wonder if something innocent hasn't been lost. I don't think innocence ever is really lost...but sometimes it needs stillness to remember. To everything there is a season...sometimes a season to pull away and follow a different, more quiet and gentle way for a while. Thanks for any understanding.  IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 3944 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 02, 2007 02:24 AM
Lia I know exactly what you mean, and how you feel. Having private thoughts and feelings exposed is not a fun thing to experience. One would prefer (esp a sag) to lick ones wounds in private and present a face of composure to the world. Being dealt the compassion you have been dealt must prove very challenging at times, keen awareness brings poignant suffering.I keep having dreams lately where I'm on a journey, sometimes in car, sometimes in boat, but the vehicle always goes out of control...it's going to fast, its out of control IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 11943 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 02:32 AM
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Mirandee Knowflake Posts: 4812 From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer Registered: Sep 2004
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posted July 02, 2007 03:38 AM
Lisa  You are not starting it all up again so don't worry about that. This has been bothering you and I'm glad that you explained it. I guess that it could be misconstrued to make you look like you are a suicidal basket case but anyone who knows you knows that is far from the truth. You have been through an awful lot in the past couple of years yet it all just served to make you stronger. It was a poor choice of words on my part and I used that term because HSC was threatening suicide. I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry. I do know how much you value your privacy. Had I not been emotionally drained by that point after two days dealing with the dramas on the board here I would have been more clear headed in my choice of words and how I was phrasing things. People who know you know better. Same with me. So I am not all that concerned with what other people may think about me who don't even know me. Yet on forums like LL all people have to go on are their own perceptions. It's kind of like an accident scene. Police say they don't really take any creedence in eye witness accounts of accident scenes because no one sees it the same way. Same with things that happen at LL. For that reason I am glad that you explained it and expressed your feelings about it. IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife Knowflake Posts: 1530 From: Wonderland Registered: Aug 2006
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posted July 02, 2007 03:44 AM
wow, sag's ARE the polar opposites of gemini's then. When I am hurt, i need to talk my way through it. its almost therapeutic for me. i sometimes find it difficult to understand how one can not want to talk/share. it is the same for feelings of love/happiness too. just want to share it with the whole world. I feel sometimes that i do need to stay in the moment more. feel it rather than try to capture it in words. but then my first emotional reaction is always to talk.sorry for going off at a tangent. it just really struck me. IP: Logged |
Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 5378 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 03:52 AM
I'm the same way InLoveWithLife & if that fails, I then go off to mys-ElF!!!! Which has been alot more so in the past year!!!
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Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 5378 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 03:57 AM
Just giving ours-Elves a TIME-OUT & knowing when to just let go, are both " HONORABLE " taits!!!!!IP: Logged |
Solane Star Knowflake Posts: 5378 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 04:24 AM
Spend time with your soul"Be mindful of how you approach time. Watching the clock is not the same as watching the sun rise." -- Sophia Bedford-Pierce What would your soul consider a waste of time? To a soul, the only real time is right NOW. Not the future or the past. It lives in connecting deeply with the rich experience of each moment. Through awareness we can be in touch with our authentic self and how it perceives all of the energies and guidance around and within us. "Chronos is clocks, deadlines, watches, calendars, agendas, planners, schedules, beepers. Chronos is time at her worst. Chronos keeps track. ...Chronos is the world's time. Kairos is transcendence, infinity, reverence, joy, passion, love, the Sacred. Kairos is intimacy with the Real. Kairos is time at her best. ...Kairos is Spirit's time. We exist in chronos. We long for kairos. That's our duality. Chronos requires speed so that it won't be wasted. Kairos requires space so that it might be savored. We do in chronos. In kairos we're allowed to be ... It takes only a moment to cross over from chronos into kairos, but it does take a moment. All that kairos asks is our willingness to stop running long enough to hear the music of the spheres." -- Sarah Ban Breathnach "He who postpones the hour of living rightly is like the rustic who waits for the river to run out before he crosses." -- Horace IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 06:01 AM
Every beautiful and sensitive soul I have known so far in my life seem to have a side to them- (I wonder if it is similar to polarity??) -that makes them particularly susceptible to pain. As BlueRoamer said, 'keen awareness brings poignant suffering'. I wonder why this is? Look at Linda. I was so drawn to her words and moved by them because she was/is such a sensitive soul. But if you read Gooberz you realize that this sensitive soul went through a LOT of pain....that she couldn't always be a 'Tower of Strength'....Oh no. Linda went through a lot.I think it is always important to remember that we all do at times. We are NOT invincible. Look at celebrities- what they go through- in an out of rehab. Vulnerability should be nothing to be ashamed of. It is merely a fact of life. However, the world is not so sensitive. It is full of people who are not playing the role, or have not brought it on themselves to become 'poignantly aware'. And, like BlueRoamer said in another thread, the world needs more people like this to speak out right now. We must be strong Or try to be  The energy of LL may contain negativity just as it does positivity....It is so easy to get hurt by the negativity even though the good outweighs the bad (in my opinion)....Or perhaps the two are just equally balanced? I dunno. But I do think it is necessary for both elements to allow growth and spiritual development. Why deny ourselves of the beauty just because of the ugly? Remove them both and what are we left with? These are just things I think about a lot.....  I'm still trying to learn how to turn 'gladness into sadness'.
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ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 06:08 AM
BR, quote: I keep having dreams lately where I'm on a journey, sometimes in car, sometimes in boat, but the vehicle always goes out of control...it's going to fast, its out of control
I rarely dream these days but I did a lot when I was younger. I remember having the same dream. I think it represents fear of not being in control....maybe what I have been just talking about....vulnerability. After all, we all are- vulnerable. Nature is the most powerful force, not man  However, I do have faith in my heart and I do feel, in my soul, that there is something greater behind it all. We are not just a coincidence amidst a chaotic mass of a universe! The more I look into it, the more the former makes sense and the latter sounds ridiculous We have nothing to worry about- not really. Life is a journey. Everything happens for a reason. Pain cannot last forever- as they say- the darkest hour is before the dawn.  IP: Logged |
SattvicMoon Knowflake Posts: 2282 From: Registered: May 2007
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posted July 02, 2007 06:15 AM
quote: wow, sag's ARE the polar opposites of gemini's then.
My brother-in-law and I have no idea why or how we get along so well, but we do, though we often find ourself on two extreme ends in most cases. ------------------ Giving up doesn't always mean you are weak, sometimes it means that you are strong enough to let go IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 06:34 AM
I'm a Gemini and my partner is a Sag....a lot of friction there.....  IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees Knowflake Posts: 3844 From: Infinity Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 02, 2007 06:22 PM
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Mirandee Knowflake Posts: 4812 From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer Registered: Sep 2004
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posted July 02, 2007 10:12 PM
I talk about things ad nauseam. Just ask my husband. It drives him nuts. I tell some things about myself on public forums but I don't tell everything that bothers me or upsets me. I kind of feel that I would be burdening others with my problems when they have enough of their own to deal with. I confide in my husband, my family and trusted friends. Luckily I am blessed to have a few trusted friends around LL who know how truly weird I am.  Lia is the same way. She talks about her life and what is bothering her to trusted friends and to me but I am quite aware that there are some things that daughters just don't want to talk to mom about. Those things are reserved for friends. Which is fine by me because I probably wouldn't want to know anyway. hee hee IP: Logged |
silverstone Moderator Posts: 2620 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted July 03, 2007 01:37 AM
Lia  ------------------ Between the woods and frozen lake The darkest evening of the year.... The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer Knowflake Posts: 3944 From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 03, 2007 01:49 AM
Hi silverstone!!!  IP: Logged |
Lialei Knowflake Posts: 1887 From: blank canvas Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 03, 2007 03:00 AM
 thank you.  LL's been going in and out tonight. The browser's saying "gateway time-out"...anyone else? I'll write more when I'm more sure it will post.  BR, I knew you knew, and I knew--or sensed something-- a silent mutual understanding (your karmic justice thread) I also knew, like me, you wouldn't outright say.  Talking with you meant a lot to me in that moment of time, hence my reaction when the thread was closed. Mom, LTT, Solane, Sattvic, AG, ILWL, BR, Silver ~ you're all extrordinary people I'm blessed to know. 
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silverstone Moderator Posts: 2620 From: Registered: Mar 2006
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posted July 03, 2007 03:43 AM
Hi BlueRoamer~  Lisa.... Actually, I admire your honesty and bravery-- I always have admired that about Sagi's... I think that applies to BlueRoamer, as well! 
------------------ Between the woods and frozen lake The darkest evening of the year.... The only other sound's the sweep Of easy wind and downy flake. The woods are lovely, dark, and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 11943 From: Pleasanton, CA, USA Registered: May 2005
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posted July 03, 2007 11:00 AM
I was having issues with the site last night as well. Even this morning I've had some weird problems.IP: Logged |
Mirandee Knowflake Posts: 4812 From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer Registered: Sep 2004
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posted July 03, 2007 11:23 AM
I thought the site crashed as I couldn't access it after I posted the meditation thread. I kept getting an Internet Explorer message saying the site could not be accessed. IP: Logged |
SattvicMoon Knowflake Posts: 2282 From: Registered: May 2007
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posted July 03, 2007 11:25 AM
I had some issues too, it said I didn't have rights to access, but when refreshed things were okay. This happened a couple of times. ------------------ Giving up doesn't always mean you are weak, sometimes it means that you are strong enough to let go IP: Logged |