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Topic: Why do you want money???????
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Solane Star
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 12, 2007 08:03 AM
 
Why do you want money? “Money is not required to buy one necessity of the soul.” -- Henry David Thoreau Money is nothing more than a medium of exchange. While we may want more money to get out of debt or to have more cash to play with, we want to set goals that represent more than just making money. And so we might ask, “What do I want money to do for me?” Look to the values beneath money. What is happiness to you? What things, qualities, service, purpose do you value in life? "If all the gold in the world were melted down into a solid cube, it would be about the size of an eight room house. If a man got possession of all that gold -- billions of dollars worth -- he could not buy a friend, character, peace of mind, clear conscience or a sense of eternity." -- Charles F. Bunning IP: Logged |
Twinkle Stars
Knowflake Posts: 152
From: Nyc
Registered: Jun 2007
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posted July 12, 2007 10:10 AM
So we can feed ourselves, health insurance, buy our clothes, and not die.IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
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posted July 12, 2007 12:31 PM
It is impossible to survive in the west without a certain amount of money, especially in the US where we have no socialized medicine. God forbid you should ever get sick and be unable to work.True, a lot of people are way too oriented towards making copious amounts of cash, but people who don't save, who don't care about money, often end up not doing so well. IP: Logged |
Xena
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From: UK
Registered: Jun 2006
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posted July 12, 2007 04:22 PM
Why do I want money? Because I want to be able to live on the interest, I want to accrue worth so I don't have to work as hard in the future. Plus, eventually I'd like to be able to own my own property (I suppose), but not before I've made my first million. Will that happen? It may. Or it may not. I'm not madly hung up on money for its own sake; what's most important to me is to make money doing the things I love and build a reputation.
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Peri
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From: Kyiv, Ukraine
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted July 13, 2007 10:01 AM
To me money means freedom and independence. 
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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted July 13, 2007 11:14 AM
Money is not the root of all evil. The love of money is the root of all evil. We do need money to survive. Charles Bunning acknowledges that when he says that
"Money is nothing more than a medium of exchange." It's true that money cannot buy the things in life that are most important. I am drawing a blank on the name at the moment but a rock star from the 80's once said that " Money can't buy happiness but it can buy you a boat big enough to pull up along side of it. "  It would be nice to have more money to be debt free and without worries. It would be even nicer to have more than my share of it so I could use it to help others. I think that Bono of U-2 is a good example for all of us when it comes to money and even fame and what is most important in life. He seems to have his principals and values regarding fame and money in the right order. "To whom more is given, more is expected." Some people seem to understand that well and Bono is one of them. IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted July 13, 2007 01:15 PM
I agree with Peri and Mirandee. Money and a constant pursuit of making it is probably one of my main downfalls.  However, I could care less about someone else's money. I never judge or base my relationships on financial reasons. I don't think that material things and/or money makes a person. I know that to some my constant working, figuring out ways to maximize a dollar, etc. seem a little shallow... well, I guess I would agree if I were doing selfish and/or shallow things with the money. But I have also come to understand that some people think that when I take my daughter and myself on a vacation or when I bought my home .... that I was being selfish and self-absorbed. How does that logic work? I don't feel that it is realistic to pretend that money is not important. As it's already been mentioned, get sick and see how good of health care one gets without it... be a parent and see how well you feed, house and provide for your child without it.
I'm not saying it's right... it's just reality. __________________________________________
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Dervish
Knowflake Posts: 328
From: California
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted July 13, 2007 10:21 PM
It's ironic that guilt of money came about mostly by greedy ******** trying to guilt us out of it. Not to say that an unhealthy obsession over it doesn't exist, as too many do have that obsession. Some have unhealthy obsessions with sex, food, chemical highs, love, friendship, etc, but that doesn't mean these things are bad--it's the obsession that's bad. Though I'll add that contempt of the rich is to me as ugly as contempt of the poor. There are plenty of rich and poor people that earn contempt for one reason or another (typically harming others to make a profit & protect their power and wealth, or destructive habits that keep one poor), but the fact that they are rich or poor shouldn't itself be a reason for that contempt. IP: Logged |
naiad
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posted July 14, 2007 01:34 AM
i want money so that i can be a happy and blissful consumer all day....meditate, do yoga, zone out, eat sushi (veggie), listen to new age music on my mp3 player, and wear awesome, eco-trendy, breathable, natural-fiber clothing, drive a fuel cell car, buy rare crystals with mystical healing properties and ultra-high vibrations, eat luscious, tropical, organic fruit all day...purchase the finest organic incense and soy candles....i don't do any of these things though, but i do sing and dance with my babe, we bake cakes, go exploring, take naps together, read stories, paint, et al.....and well, that's pretty awesome too.  IP: Logged |
Solane Star
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From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 14, 2007 01:51 AM
i don't do any of these things though, but i do sing and dance with my babe, we bake cakes, go exploring, take naps together, read stories, paint, et al.....and well, that's pretty awesome too. NICE & BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
naiad
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posted July 14, 2007 02:07 AM
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Mirandee
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From: South of the Thumb - Taurus, Pisces, Cancer
Registered: Sep 2004
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posted July 15, 2007 11:27 AM
A long time ago I was made aware of people in Guatamala who are born into a garbage dump. Their lives are spent in that garbage dump. They scrounge for food there and parts that they can sell for money. They live in makeshift shelters. Their lives are so hopeless that their only escape is drugs. They sell parts they find in the dump to buy drugs or they exchange things for drugs. Small children die there daily due to their parents being on drugs and not caring for them. They are buried alive under heaps of garbage or run over by garbage trucks. When I think of how these people live out their lives and how little they have I feel that no matter how little I may have in comparison to some other Americans I am wealthy in comparison to how many people in the world live. That keeps me from thinking about my own monetary problems or material lack. Upside of this story is that a young woman in her 30's hearing about the plight of these children and people in Guatamala left behind a very good job and very good life in America and went there to start a school next to the dump. She takes the kids in during the day to bathe them, feed them decent meals and she has a little playground where they can play and just be kids. She and some others also teach the kids to read and write in both English and their own language. She took all her savings to start this sanctuary for the children and she now runs it strictly on donations. All she asks of the parents is that they either bring the kids to the school or they allow them to collect the kids and take them there. Anyway, when I think of how others are forced to live their lives in some places on this planet I feel blessed for all that have even though it is not as much as some of my neighbors. It also makes me happy that there are people in this world such as this young woman who gave up all the material things she had, left her family and friends and her social standing to go to another country to help these children. It even gives the parents of these children hope that there are people in the world who do care about them. That's far more important in life than money.  IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
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From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 15, 2007 11:47 AM
I say we go back to the 'Golden Era' when all creatures spoke one language and there was no fear; no suffering......the trees grew a vast variety and abundance of many different fruits, and that was all that was needed for food.....We only need money to be a part of the social structure we are in. That is all. Money makes everything kind of impersonal  ------------------
Ignorance might be bliss, but it also makes people easier to control. Infinite love is the only truth; everything else is illusion. IP: Logged |
Solane Star
Knowflake Posts: 5378
From: Ontario, Canada
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posted July 15, 2007 12:45 PM
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Dervish
Knowflake Posts: 328
From: California
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted July 15, 2007 09:58 PM
For anyone curious on alternatives (other than the already tried and failed, like communism)to a free market, you might find these interesting:
http://www.crimethinc.com/features/13.html And there's the interesting barter of the Rainbow Gatherings:
http://www.reason.com/news/show/27927.html Interesting to me how about the only ones who'd use money were those strongly into alcohol. Here's more spiritual look at money, that holds money as tool or instrument, rather than good or evil incarnate:
http://www.yourmoneyoryourlife.org/ and are you an ant or grasshopper?
http://www.backwoodshome.com/columns/wolfe060615.html
And finally, an astrological statement to tie it all together:
http://www.aquasoul.com/AquaSpirit.html
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Happy Dragon
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posted July 16, 2007 06:15 AM
" .. A survey last year found Vanuatu was the world's happiest country .. "
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Solane Star
Knowflake Posts: 5378
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 16, 2007 07:46 AM
Balance material and spiritual"What is [the role of money] in the search for meaning? Is our relationship to it one of the chief factors that keeps us in our prison, or could it also be a tool for breaking out, for awakening to a life filled with intensity of purpose?" -- Jacob Needleman Our personality has a need for security. As a human in a material world, we need money to survive. If we don’t have enough for basics, our lives cannot function. At the same time, with too much emphasis on the material, we lose the spiritual awareness that brings meaning and fulfillment. The key lies in the balance. What draws most of your attention, time and energy: spiritual growth or money? Reflect on (or better yet, journal on) the balance or lack of balance of these two in your life. "Money is not required to buy one necessity of the soul." -- Henry David Thoreau "View money and things not as something you create to fill a lack, but as tools to help you more fully express yourself and realize your potential." -- Sanaya Roman and Duane Packer IP: Logged |
Solane Star
Knowflake Posts: 5378
From: Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted July 16, 2007 08:00 AM
Dervish!!!!THANKS for the sites!!! The first one there is great, I so love the " FREE FREE MARKET " idea!!!! I'm such a Garage Sale & Thift Shopper!!! Not so much because I have too, but because I really enjoy the delight of the Discovery & Journey of it all!!! One Mans Junk is another Mans " TREASURE " !!!! I can go out and buy a little clay pot for 50 cents or pick up a little stone on the beach and it's like I WON the LOTTERY or something!!!! I haven't been able to read the others yet, but I like the " FREE MARKET " !!!!  THANKS DERVISH!!!!! IP: Logged |
miss_muffet
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posted July 16, 2007 11:19 AM
I know this might come across as too materialistic but...I want money because it is the only tangible thing that can contribute to happiness. And the only tangible thing you can CONTROL. I can't make someone love me. I can't extend the life of the people I love. I can't make the people I love happy. (someone is going to argue this... but in my opinion, noone can make anyone happy). & so on and so forth... you get the idea. BUT, having money, allows me to stop worrying about the future; i.e., how will I eat & live when I can't work, will I have enough to support myself when I am old, etc.; and enjoy the present. Perhaps allow me to retire early and just enjoy my kids and life a lot more than just working day in and day out. Money can sure buy me things that makes me happy. I know that people say that "Money can't buy happiness" but it sure can buy things that can improve your outlook in life.
Miss Muffet
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cancerrg
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posted July 16, 2007 12:34 PM
money for me is just a mean to power !IP: Logged |
aqua inferno
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From: hopping about Europe
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posted July 16, 2007 03:06 PM
^lol!!"If all the gold in the world were melted down into a solid cube, it would be about the size of an eight room house. If a man got possession of all that gold -- billions of dollars worth -- he could not buy a friend, character, peace of mind, clear conscience or a sense of eternity." so true IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted July 16, 2007 03:13 PM
MONEY
47551 = 22 Submission and Caution, associated with the Fool, being betrayed by others, being spoon fed, instead of going within. Mastering oneSelf with the ALL MONEY lexi ME ME ME
MY MY MY
ONE ONE ONE money is about selfishness, for material things of oneself, unless one is enlightened
and uses that money for...
ALL for One, and One for ALL. ... LOve and Reverence to ALL. . . remember what Linda said, give half away...
and more will always come... . IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 238
From: MOther & Father GOd
Registered: Feb 2008
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posted July 16, 2007 03:21 PM
And think about this..every year, Randall spends $2400.00 on this site, what a good karma action...sharing this site with all of us...How many here have ever made donations to help?
I know a bunch of us did over a year ago... It's good to use our money to help others..especially those less fortunate then ourSelves. ... now, that makes me happy! LOve to ALL... . P.S. I hope you don't mind that I wrote this Randall, but I commend you for this undertaking of LOve for ALL. ... IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat. fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 16, 2007 05:30 PM
Money to just live a little better and help folks too.
To get a new roof and chimney, a bed, a handicap ramp and rails and a handicap bathtub. To be able to afford to fix our home before the city condemns it.
Or better yet, a handicap accessible home.
Money for the alternative things I cannot afford which could help like acupuncture and therapeutic massage.
Money for the other medical things I cannot get but need.
I wear mostly clothing that is 10 to over 20 years old. I don't have cable television or go to beauty parlors.
To be able to go to college.
To be able to afford to get a degree as an acupuncturist.
To pay off our debts.
To be able to take a real vacation, something I have not had since 1979.------------------
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Dulce Luna
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From: The Asylum
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted July 16, 2007 10:55 PM
Money for me is self-sufficiency and security; nothing more or nothing less. I don't like the idea of ever having to depend on anyone fanancially as an adult because for me that equals a loss of autonomy. On the other hand while wanting some new outfit or other material object once in a while is normal, I couldn't imagine myself constantly lusting for the material and determining my value by what I own; I pity the fool who is that way.IP: Logged |
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