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Xena
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posted August 27, 2007 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message
*Introverts will always understand what extroverts are about; but extroverts will never, absolutely NEVER, understand introverts. *

How true do you feel this is?

And how much of an extrovert/introvert are you?

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AcousticGod
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posted August 27, 2007 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I think it depends on age. Some introverts learn how to act extroverted on an as-needed basis.

For an example, look at Taureans. Most are inherently reserved, but within different contexts they will become a seemingly outgoing person in order to accomplish what they need to accomplish.

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Solane Star
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posted August 27, 2007 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
AG!!! I like how you use us Taurean's for your introverts & extroverted example!!!

I was thinking the same thing mys-ELF, but glad you said it, you have such a way with your words & their meanings to you AG!!! NICE!!!!

Star Brother!!!

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Xodian
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posted August 27, 2007 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message
Quite an extrovert... but those things that I supposably should be an extrovert upon aren't gonna come out anytime soon Lol!

IMO the constant struggle of communication between intros and Extros ends up in quite a heated battle sometimes. What people don't realise is that is mostly on par with miscommunication rather then intentional harm.

Contrary to popular belief, introverts are usually the ones that lash out the hardest since they end up penting up all that anger and frustration in themselves so much that it just juts out at any unsuspecting person. Sad... But true.

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aqua inferno
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posted August 27, 2007 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aqua inferno     Edit/Delete Message
This reminds me of my Leo friend. She's a Leo/Pisces/Virgo and very shy...introverted I guess. But at the same time very blunt and abrasive, it catches people off guard...she brought many girls to tears during secondary school

despite this she's always very popular...and since fear = respect hey, she has plenty.

She is certainly the exception!

Me? I dunno if I'm an extrovert, I'm certainly weird and blunt, and don't hesitate to open my big mouth. But sometimes I'm shy - well actually it's indifference or boredom or awkwardness...I guess that's what shy is.

In answering your question I doubt either understands the other

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However, I think extro & intro folk work well as a couple. One gets the spot light, the other is happy to applaud.
If they're both extro it's very likely one will resent/be jealous of the other. Two intro would either be dull or lovely.

But it's also important to remember some people that seem shy/stuck up/indifferent may be pretty cool and amazing once you know them. A lot of Aquarians are like that on first meeting but are SO cool once you get to know them, which doesn't take long.

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 27, 2007 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message
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*Introverts will always understand what extroverts are about; but extroverts will never, absolutely NEVER, understand introverts

As an introvert myself, I would have say that for the most part....yes, it is very true. But I know some exceptions to the rule.

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Battle of Evermore
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posted August 27, 2007 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message
Well, I'm generally quite introverted, but I have different moods and it depends on what people I'm around. I agree with your statement and I also agree with AG, because I feel that I'm also sort of like that myself. If I need to act more extroverted to make a good impression on somebody like at job interviews and such, I can do that pretty well.

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posted August 27, 2007 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Solane Star: (I Taureans)

BOE, I'm a bit like that too. I don't categorize myself as shy, but I can be quite quiet sometimes. I'm not afraid of talking, though (preferably with someone of interest). I don't think I'm as charming or intriguing as a Taurus. When we earth people are drunk we definitely become a lot more extroverted.

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Solane Star
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posted August 28, 2007 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solane Star     Edit/Delete Message
AcousticGod!!! (I Capricorns)Too!!!

I never become more extroverted when drunk, just puked.


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posted August 28, 2007 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm... I understand because I am on the border. When I was young I was very much an introvert but my curious nature got the best of me. When people get to know me they forget that I was shy in the beginning as have always seen me instead as an extrovert.

According to the Meyers-briggs test I am an introvert with extrovert tendancies.

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posted August 28, 2007 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
That's a really good point Xena...as an introvert I tend to feel this way with extroverts...no offense to people I definitely appreciate extroversion, it brings peopel together. But extroverts often seem self centered, and often talk endlessly about themselves, and have little intuition about other people around them...usualy not very empathic. They are definitely charming and make friends easily...of course most peopel are more towards the middle, when you see someone whos REALLY extroverted or introverted they seem crazy, way too friendly or pathologically shy. My main issue wiht them tho is they often keep talking and bothering me with no clue in their head i want to be left alone....they could never understand that need, they want people around all the time!!

There's definitely some sign trends here...i've rarely met an introverted air sign...aquariuses on occasion....libras? very rare....taurus and cancer often seem quite introverted to me, very sensetive....the typical sag is so gregarious its obnoxious..i think virgos strike a nice balance of socializing with reserve, leo is good too

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posted August 28, 2007 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Battle of Evermore     Edit/Delete Message
Haha, when I'm drunk I just get goofy. Everything's funny. I start yelling out random stuff like, "Reginald, Huburt's come back from the great war and the bosuns are in the stripper brigade! HAHAHA" and making racial slurs about my friend's cat.

.... it's um.... interesting, needless to say. I don't drink often. lol

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Xena
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posted August 31, 2007 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xena     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting take on the topic for those exhibiting ambiversion (character traits of both extro- and introversion).
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f03/web1/nkrimgold.html

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posted August 31, 2007 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneLove     Edit/Delete Message
I am an introvert despite my Leo ascendant, i begin by analizing people around me as every Virgo does and soon(usually after a few coffees ) i turn into the loveliest extrovert ever !

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posted August 31, 2007 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message
I'm pretty extroverted, but I need my alone time too. In my experience, most introverts I know actually aren't really introverted, they're just insecure to some degree about themselves/parts of themselves, which causes them to be shy and appear introverted.

The psychological definition of introvert and extrovert don't have to do with being outgoing or shy so much as whether you take your cues and actions from internal or external stimuli.

Introvert:
a. the act of directing one's interest inward or to things within the self.
b. the state of being concerned primarily with one's own thoughts and feelings rather than with the external environment.

Extrovert:
a. the act of directing one's interest outward or to things outside the self.
b. the state of being concerned primarily with things outside the self, with the external environment rather than with one's own thoughts and feelings.

I brought this up because someone commented about extroverts coming across like they're all about themselves, when actually, by dictionary definition, it's the other way around.

So, I think that oftentimes people confuse shyness borne of insecurity with introversion.

Also by dictionary definition, it would seem that introverts aren't actually in a better position to understand extroverts, because their thoughts/feelings are so internally-directed - it would actually be the opposite, although in my opinion, I don't think either understands the other any better or worse.

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posted August 31, 2007 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I'm introverted Gemini (Cappy ascendant). There are been times in my life, however, when I have been known to be the almost polar opposite of this.......very strange.

What BlueRoamer wrote sounds a lot like a person I know.

But I don't know whether there are any extroverts who can empathize with introverts, unless they have once been one themselves....

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posted August 31, 2007 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Isis, I feel the description above is to general a description.

Introverts aren't necessarily people who have gone this way because of insecurity, though it may be true in some people's cases.

There is an inner nature in some people that they just need peace and quiet to contemplate; to be creative. How can one find their own voice or tune into that quiet, unseen ocean of inspiration, if they are constantly surrounded by distractive clutter and chitter-chatter?

Often sensitive souls go into themselves because the only way to relate to the majority of the world around them would be to dilute some of that sensitivity. Which is soul-destroying.

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Isis
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posted August 31, 2007 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message
LTT: I didn't mean all introverts are just insecure. Most of the people I know who are shy to some degree aren't really introverted, just somewhat insecure. I guess I meant to say that I think people sometimes miscategorize themselves as introverts when actually they are very externally focused and long to be outgoing, but insecurities, not a desire to be quiet and contemplative, cause them to be shy.

I certainly can't deny that some people are introverts...a lot of people. And I didn't mean to imply that there's something wrong with being introverted either, or that being introverted is somehow inferior to being extroverted.

The world needs all kinds of people

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ListensToTrees
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posted August 31, 2007 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I think....I am introverted for all the reasons you and i have just outlined.....

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AcousticGod
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posted August 31, 2007 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I didn't know you were a Gemini with a Capricorn Ascendant, LTT! Wow! I've wanted to meet someone with that combo to see how that works out, since that's the opposite of my combination. It's weird melding the young Gemini with the old Capricorn, isn't it?

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 01, 2007 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
That's right, Acoustic God.


When you say you are the 'opposite', what exactly are you? Curious. Capricorn/Gemini?

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ListensToTrees
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posted September 01, 2007 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
It has occurred to me,
since writing on this thread.....

that, speaking for myself, any of the shyness/ tendencies to insecurity are a result of the introversion- the main cause being the reasons I first outlined above.

So, whilst the insecurity thing isn't the reason for the introversion itself, it can come as a side-effect from having too much time alone; our social skills being like the brain or a muscle; you have to keep working them or they'll go weak .

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posted September 03, 2007 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
A friend gave me this link. However, I wasn't sure whether to define myself as an introvert at the time and didn't take a proper look. However, having gone back to it, it really is a great site and anyone interested should take a look. I think while I am not totally introverted, I am definitely more introverted than I am extroverted.
http://www.theintrovertzcoach.com/definitions_of_introvert.html

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posted September 06, 2007 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thethirdbenjamin     Edit/Delete Message
More introverted, you should see my class for the exception of two people were all introverts.

Introverts are better at indapendant study and learning, instead of babling on about things and babling with other people

they'll be intrested in learning more about something that rally intrests them since they'll go into there corner and spend a lot of there time on the subject of interest.

But I think i'm both all be shy around people I don't know but social around people i do know.

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posted September 06, 2007 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
There are many reasons to be an introvert or extrovert. I don't think we can fully understand another type. I'm pretty sure plenty of extroverts would claim they understand introverts.

For me personally, I'm a mixture of both. I'm introverted in the sense that I hide much of myself from others. Very few of my friends know that my first name is Becky, eg, instead think it's Jane (my middle). The reasons for that are complicated to explain and I just don't see a point in correcting it. But when a very close friend met my Granny, even she was confused why I was being called "Becky" and "Becky Jane."

At the same time, I'm also friendly, and keep a wide variety of friends and try to stay on good terms with my neighbors and the like. In that sense I'm an extrovert. I sometimes wear flamboyant styles (eg, mismatched stockings), though they're usually not at all flashy, just odd.

<Shrugs> Maybe it makes a difference that I'm a Libran (with Venus in Libra, along with Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto, IIRC) with a Leo ascendant, along with a Mercury in Scorpio (and I'm on the Scorpio cusp). My moon and Mars are Sag.

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