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SattvicMoon
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posted October 12, 2007 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Humans, I believe, are proving to be dumb! I am sure there will be some moron to legalise such a "marriage" as well.

MAASTRICHT, Netherlands, Oct. 11 (UPI) -- The University of Maastricht in the Netherlands is awarding a doctorate to a researcher who wrote a paper on marriages between humans and robots.

David Levy, a British artificial intelligence researcher at the college, wrote in his thesis, "Intimate Relationships with Artificial Partners," that trends in robotics and shifting attitudes on marriage are likely to result in sophisticated robots that will eventually be seen as suitable marriage partners.

Levy's conclusion was based on about 450 publications in the fields of psychology, sexology, sociology, robotics, materials science, artificial intelligence, gender studies and computer-human interaction.

The thesis examines human attitudes toward affection, love and sexuality and concluded that the findings are just as applicable to human interaction with robots of the future as they are to the relationships between humans of today.


Copyright 2007 by United Press International

Source: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=upiUPI-20071011-122541-6886&show_article=1

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BlueRoamer
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posted October 12, 2007 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
I want to marry a banana.

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SattvicMoon
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posted October 12, 2007 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Happy Bananas.........

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Dervish
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posted October 12, 2007 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
If it makes you feel better, no one can marry unless they do so out of their own free will. That is, a robot cannot agree to marriage. At least not until the advent of AI anyway (and even if there is AI, how well would it fit within an android?). Even if the AI is developed, how long before they're recognized as anything other than "property"? As long as they're property, even an AI will not be able to legally consent to marry.

I think we're a long, long way before there's the possibility of Commander Data wanting to marry an organic life form. ;-)

But even if they did, then so what? It means that the robot can be informed and have the preferred voice in dealing with harsh medical decisions (and if devoid of free will, then that means whatever the spouse programmed, or had programmed, the robot to say), can visit in prison (if programmed to), and--if the robot gets a paying job anyway--can help in taxes. The robot can also inherit, though I'd like to see the said robot manage to fight off the lawsuit that would no doubt be used to challenge that (including in seeing the robot as part of the material possessions to be inherited).

Granted, a programming genius and the like (or, more scary, a cracker genius) could do some fascinating things, but how often is that likely to happen? I doubt it could even happen once without a severe backlash, too.

If you want something to worry about, then worry about what happens when it becomes possible to transfer human consciousness into robots and androids. Unless, natch, you're one of those who live for that day (my best friend likes the idea of android immortality).

Or even "better," the military uses of robots who are immune to most chemical weapons, radiation poison, and can carry bombs in them (such as nukes), and possibly fly small enough that they can be delivered by air without detection. Robotic assassins, used by ruthless individuals on both sides of the law, can also be seen as a genuine future menace to worry about.

As opposed to pulling your hair over the idea of people marrying machines. Personally, the idea of someone marrying a robot bothers me as much as the idea of someone marrying a sex toy (including blow up doll) or computer. Which is to say, not at all--even if it were legally possible.

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posted October 12, 2007 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Wouldn't that be the point of marrying a robot: getting around the whole "free will" thing?

I can just imagine the nagging:

"I noticed in your computer logs that you've been chatting with human women again... Don't think I don't notice these things!"

"You spent $75 on food?!?! You are so inefficient!"

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SattvicMoon
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posted October 12, 2007 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
Then why call it marriage? Create a new word for those kinda relations!

Tomorrow someone wants to have a sexual relation a la marriage with an animal or a bird, and I am more than sure that some moron would come up with legalization of the same.

ahhhh sorry I forgot we are humans, and we have excuses for everything and anything.

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posted October 12, 2007 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
When an animal can say, "I do," then yes marriage with an animal becomes a possibility. Not at all likely, but possible. I think even child brides would be more likely legally and in desirability by many people.

And again, who cares? The number of people wanting to marry an animal--or find an animal willing to marry them and have the ability to say, "I do,"--seems so remote that I find it odd that you'd even be worried about it.

And only one report for school said this as far as I can tell. Not that I care if anyone wants to marry a machine, though legally that's impossible. A robot saying, "I do," would be as valid as a computer saying, "I do."

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posted October 12, 2007 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
"I DO" - well that is a religious aspect of marriage! Outside of Christian marriages who says "I DO"?


And perhaps, as you said WHO CARE? That is why we have all the nonsense going on in our world! So much for being human!

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posted October 12, 2007 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
You mean that people who use the Justice of the Peace don't have to be willing? So if some guy wants to marry me and I don't want to marry him, he can just kidnap me and marry me against my will at the Justice of the Peace as it's not Christian? What about if I'm unconscious so that I can't give my consent?

Can you even marry someone against their will in say China?


And as for the "who cares" I think it's people who have to meddle in the private lives of strangers that mess this world up and give humanity a bad name.

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SattvicMoon
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posted October 12, 2007 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SattvicMoon     Edit/Delete Message
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And as for the "who cares" I think it's people who have to meddle in the lives of strangers that mess this world up and give humanity a bad name.

Depends on what the "stranger" does! Why do we need law enforcement in that case?

And that is why Einstein's quote is so valuable: The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it

Well, I am not saying anyone can marry someone against their will, but there is no "I DO" ritual per se. Mutual consent yes.

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posted October 12, 2007 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
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Depends on what the "stranger" does! Why do we need law enforcement in that case?

To make sure women wear bras or burkas. To make sure 6-year-old girls don't use chalk on sidewalks. To make sure people can't buy sex toys. To make sure that the old lady that let her lawn get too brown gets her butt kicked. To kill people in custody. To gun people down in their own homes because the cops got the wrong address and thought the startled old people jumping out of bed were armed drug dealers, or even because they want to rob the property under forfeiture laws, and it's neater if the owners are dead. To sexually exploit prostitutes to raise money for the city (by pimping them via fines and cutting them loose to turn the tricks to pay the fine).

Law enforcement is involved in all of this, so presumably it's why it exists. And it's based on interfering in people's private lives even when it shouldn't be anyone else's biz. 'Course, when it SHOULD be someone else's biz, like when my mom had a restraining order from my dad that was violent and tried killing us, the cops have better things to do than get involved.

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posted October 13, 2007 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
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