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AcousticGod
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posted October 16, 2007 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
What can you do about computers that call your cell, claim not to be a sales call, and ask for someone else's name? This keeps happening. I've put that number on the do not call list.

Last time I stayed on the call and tried getting a hold of a human through it, it only gave me the options of confirming I was the person, or pressing a number indicating I'd like it to hold while I get the person.

Any advice? Usually I just hang up, but then I get to wondering if there was something I could have done to make it go away permanently.

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Nephthys
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posted October 16, 2007 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message

https://www.donotcall.gov/

I can't stand the ones that call on the home phone at dinner time, *after* I've already given my # to the national dnc list twice!

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Yin
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posted October 18, 2007 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah,
Get rid of your phone altogether, probably.

I would like to know if anyone has any idea as well.

Maybe some day the phone companies will come up with Anti-SPAM software?

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angel_of_hope
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posted October 18, 2007 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Could u got to your phone company and get them to print out a list of recieved numbers? Trace the number? Reverse search the number to figure out who the company is? press charges? ... if ur on the DNC list, i believe u have the right to press charges.

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Yin
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posted October 18, 2007 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
https://www.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx

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AcousticGod
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posted October 18, 2007 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Good ideas. I believe that the phone numbers do always show up on my phone, so maybe I could follow up with the Do-Not-Call site and pursue a solution that way.

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AcousticGod
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posted November 02, 2007 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Do Not Call List Inching Closer to Permanence
Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:08PM EDT

Last month I reported about a legislative action involving making permanent the Do Not Call list, which millions signed up for during its 2003 launch... and which are now set to expire in 2008. The good news just got a bit better: The Bill introduced in September to make the Do Not Call registry a permanent registry has passed both House and Senate committee sessions, which would eliminate the five-year expiry after which registered numbers are dropped from the list.

The lone governmental holdout against making Do Not Call entries permanent has been the FTC, which has previously said that expiration dates were needed to account for people who change phone numbers or move. However, critics of that policy have rightly argued that disconnected and reassigned numbers are automatically purged from the list once a month. The "permanent" DNC list would up that pace to twice a month.

Even more good news: While the bill is working its way through Congress, the FTC has reversed itself by announcing that it will not purge expiring registrations until the matter is sorted out in Congress (and hopefully signed by the President). So, no need to rush out and re-register your phone numbers on the list now. With any luck you'll never have to register them again.

Bill Makes Do Not Call Listings Forever
By JENNIFER C. KERR – 2 days ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Congress took the first steps Tuesday to ensure that people who registered for the national Do Not Call list won't be inundated next year with telemarketing calls at dinnertime.

At separate House and Senate committee sessions, lawmakers passed legislation that makes most of the 145 million phone numbers on the list permanent by eliminating a five-year expiration date established by the Federal Trade Commission, which administers the program.

The Associated Press reported last month that millions of phone numbers on the registry would start dropping off beginning next summer unless people re-registered.

Reversing course, the FTC announced last week that it would not purge expired numbers while Congress considers making the phone listings permanent.

A measure sponsored by Rep. Mike Doyle, D-Pa., cleared the House Energy and Commerce Committee on Tuesday and will be sent to the full House for a vote.

Doyle said his legislation would give millions of Americans "a little much-needed peace and quiet."

The House committee also approved a bill, sponsored by Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., that extends the authority of the FTC to collect fees from telemarketers. That authority expired last month.

In the Senate, a measure similar to the Doyle bill cleared the Commerce Committee. Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who sponsored the bill, said it would prevent phones from starting to ring again at supper time. The bill heads to the full Senate for a vote.

Last month, the FTC had said the expiration date was needed to account for changes, such as people who move and switch their phone numbers. Critics complained, pointing out that the list is already scrubbed each month of numbers that have been disconnected and reassigned to new customers. Doyle's bill would require purges by the FTC twice a month.

David Certner, legal policy director at AARP, says many people don't know about the need to re-register every five years. So the legislation, he says, is important.

"People don't want these unwanted calls," Certner said. "For an older person, sometimes it's more than just a bother. It can be a great inconvenience to try to get to a phone only to find out it's simply a call you don't want to receive in the first place."

Linda Stevenson of West Chester, Pa. placed her phone numbers on the Do Not Call list in the early days of the program. She thinks the legislation is a good idea.

"When someone comes to your door, they knock on your door. They just don't come in and sell to you automatically," Stevenson said. "It's nice that it is assumed the number is permanent and then you opt out."

The Senate and House bills would end the five-year expirations, but people who want to remove their numbers from the Do Not Call list would still be permitted to do so.

The registry prohibits telemarketers from calling phone numbers on the list. Companies face fines of up to $11,000 for each violation. Organizations engaged in charitable, political or survey work are exempt. Companies that have an established business relationship with a customer also may call for up to 18 months after the last purchase, payment or delivery.

Polls have found consumers reporting far fewer unwanted phone calls. Still, some telemarketers continue to violate the law.

Since the registry began in June 2003, the government has filed cases against about 30 companies, resulting in $8.8 million in civil penalties and $8.6 million in redress to consumers and forfeitures.

Most of the penalties were paid by satellite television provider DirecTV Inc., as part of a $5.3 million settlement — the largest in the program's history.

Telemarketers are required to pay an annual subscription fee to access the list so those numbers can be blocked from their dial-out programs. The companies also must update their own calling lists every 31 days to ensure there are no numbers from the registry on them.

On the Net:
Information on the Senate and House bills (S. 2096, H.R. 3541, H.R. 2601) can be found at: http://thomas.loc.gov

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