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posted November 05, 2008 12:02 AM         

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How can he be considered black when he is 1/2 white?
Is my 1/2 black and 1/2 white niece a black or white girl?????????????
Are my other nieces and nephews being 1/2 white and 1/2 Hindi, or Hispanic or Chinese, and Korean too.....
Well just what are they?

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posted November 05, 2008 12:18 AM         

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Well just what are they?

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Equal children of God. Beyond that - who cares?

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posted November 05, 2008 12:20 AM         

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I guess you could call him not-all-white. Would that suffice? The first not-all-white President.

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posted November 05, 2008 12:23 AM         

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I voted for him!
He won!
I am pleased!

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posted November 05, 2008 12:26 AM         

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He won!
I am pleased!

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posted November 05, 2008 12:27 AM         

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Well...my nephews and nieces are NOT seen as half white. They get labled by their non white looks instead....just like Obama.

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posted November 05, 2008 12:30 AM         

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LEXX

That just happens to anyone who is seen as having any type of "ethnicity" - no matter what degree - it becomes prevalent. I'm mediterranean and I look English (very very pale white). I usually have to prove my background.

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posted November 05, 2008 12:31 AM         

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AG's got it...
Obama is non-white....the first non-white president...wow.
I'm so emotional about this. It's so monumental...so happy he won, I was crying. I NEVER get this choked up about stuff like this.

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posted November 05, 2008 01:28 AM         

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That just happens to anyone who is seen as having any type of "ethnicity" - no matter what degree - it becomes prevalent. I'm mediterranean and I look English (very very pale white). I usually have to prove my background.

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I am a green eyed freckled non tanning redhead. I get the "you must be Irish" bit alot!
Nope no Irish here!
Native American/German/Dutch/Scottish/Barbados/Danish/English.....

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posted November 05, 2008 01:33 AM         

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well at my grandson's school they label people who ARE white. he (my grandson) is considered "lightskinned" there. and by the time he graduates that will now hopefully subside!! from where i sit he is just plain gorgeous!!

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posted November 05, 2008 06:03 AM         

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Obama is the new American president and race shouldn't even be more then just a fact, nothing more nothing less.

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posted November 05, 2008 11:08 AM         

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My 5 cents worth is tht f ya asked obama the question he'll say he's an american citizen like the rest of his counterparts of the nation regardless of race or ethnicity. My thoughts neway. J81. :-)

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posted November 05, 2008 02:46 PM         

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i'm sorry but you cannot ignore the fact that a large segment of the population who normally would not bother to vote were given hope and motivation BECAUSE HE IS NOT MR LILYWHITE. and they made a big difference in the result. a lot of minority citizens have always felt there was no candidate who could understand the hopelessness they live with.

not only does his colour matter in terms of the election results, but it matters because colour is no longer AN EXCUSE for feeling victimized and overlooked, the very same people who voted for him and will benefit from a role model they can identify with will have to give up blaming the white establishment.

'sall good...

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posted November 05, 2008 02:55 PM         

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katatonic
more here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003308-7.html

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posted November 07, 2008 10:09 PM         

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I second you, Katatonic

AG put it aptly- the first non-white president of the United States.

It's a pity that we often label our fellow human beings based on their skin colors, race, ethnicity etc.

But it's also monumental that Obama has won the US presidential election- the first non-Caucasian American president. That gives a huge amount of hope to those who are non-Caucasians.

Congratulations!

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posted November 07, 2008 10:42 PM         

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Obama may be the closest thing to a LITERAL "African-American". His father was directly from Kenya. None of Obama's ancestors were ever the subject of America's black oppression.

If I went by the same social standard as the term "African-American", then I would call myself a "European-American". But I don't. The bottom line is that we're all just Americans, and that is how I refer to my American friends, regardless of ethnic lineage.

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posted November 09, 2008 02:10 PM         

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Barack O'Bama is Irish ~ that's what he is ~ as Irish as bacon, cabbage and stew.

It says so on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xkw8ip43Vk

And the man himself:

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posted November 09, 2008 02:46 PM         

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Nice!

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posted November 09, 2008 04:47 PM         

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Oh well, there was one thing that jwhop was on the money about, the apostrophe.

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posted November 09, 2008 04:52 PM         

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Virgo, innit.

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posted November 09, 2008 04:56 PM         

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I was watching CNN, and they were discussing some of the exit poll statistics. They said that 80% of Americans did not take race into account while voting. The remaining 20% were almost split down the middle. 10% voting because he was. 10% not voting because he was.

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posted November 10, 2008 10:03 PM         

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good one BlueMoon, i have that one on my myspace site!! and the point about his father is a good one. my mom's last doctor was from nigeria and a less downtrodden man you never met. in nigeria, said he, his predecessors were kings. and he carried himself with that certain something. there was not one whiff of victim about him and he hung with people of all colour as long as they were smart, caring, and shared a sense of humour...

but i would say part of the HUGE turnout was obviously people voting for the other side. i was flabbergasted to find out some of my good friends bought the "socialist" crap and LIKED sarah palin (although they had to admit on the issues she was dreadful!!).

i guess that's why who you vote for is confidential and politics is not considered a topic for company!!

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posted November 12, 2008 07:05 AM         

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i think it depends on what race the father belongs to. like if the mother is white and father black, the child would be called black.

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posted November 13, 2008 09:58 AM         

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maybe in india but here if you are not white you are black, although the black community makes distinctions between lightskinned, dark, etc, etc. in fact some of the worst racists i have met are people of colour....SOME, not all.

actually, you could also be "hispanic, asian, or indian (as in native american)" so the above statement is not ENTIRELY accurate...!

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posted November 14, 2008 01:22 AM         

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I Barack. For the simple reason that so many were given hope. I don't care if he's the crappiest president ever. (I could totally be more eloquent, but it's almost 1:30 and I'm in my jammies and stuff.) I'm just moved to see so many people finally get involved.

I'm a sucker for inspiration!

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