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LEXX
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posted November 04, 2008 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AG!
You know how to dance in the rain too.
Some only roll in the mud.

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posted November 04, 2008 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK...why do some versions say this instead?

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Quatrain 78 of Century X:

"Sudden joy to sudden sadness
It will occur at Rome for the graces embraced
Grief, cries, tears, weeping, blood, excellent mirth
Contrary bands surprised & trussed up. "



Or this?
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A fake quatrain from Nostradamus is making its way around the net:

At the war’s end:
The Feeble Kept One will strike down the Night
And his Imbecile Queen will rise from the snow
Bedecked in finery and the pelt of a wolf.

– Quatrain 78 Century X

Some people are predicting that this means that McCain will win, and will die after the Iraq war is completed, so that the Imbecile Queen (Palin) will take his place.

This is such utter bullsh!t. Even if it weren’t a stretch to interpret it that way, that isn’t even the text of Quatrain 78, Century X. That one reads:

The old roads will all be improved,
One will proceed on them to the modern Memphis,
The great Mercury of Hercules fleur-de-lis
Causing to tremble lands, sea & country.



So whats up?

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Mannu
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posted November 04, 2008 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mannu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
>>>My definition for messiah is the same as the dictionary's, and it's still completely irrelevant to this presidential election.

Another drone statement


Yawns . Feels so unchallenged by the drones

Oops, Am i allowed to say that? Doesn't matter as I am outta of this thread forever. good bye and it means God be with ya.

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posted November 04, 2008 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Drone? I think that's an improper use of the word.

You never answer what I say. You always subvert to something else. You seemed to think that the word "Messiah" meant something in this election. When I indulge your fantasy, you make a nonsensical statement about drones and run off. I'm confused to say the least.

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posted November 06, 2008 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 06, 2008 06:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because
America
Realized
And
Cleared
Karma

One
Black
American
Man
Arose

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LEXX
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posted November 06, 2008 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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One
Black
American
Man
Arose
Technically he is 1/2 black and 1/2 white.
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Barack Obama was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a white American from Wichita, Kansas of mainly English, Irish and smaller amounts of German descent.

So he is actually Kenyan, English, Irish, and German.
I wish that since the media is placing a race label on him, that it would be more on mixed than only 1/2 of his ancestry. Many Americans are of mixed/white/non white ancestry, myself included.


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posted November 07, 2008 07:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree LEXX,
this is one of the issues I was discussing just recently.
He is equally white and yet they are constantly calling him African American.
What about the half of him that isn't?

Very sad that the race card is being played both ways!

I don't feel that race should have even been an issue...

I only count us as one race... Human!

No offense to the ET"s that are out there! lol : :

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LEXX
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posted November 07, 2008 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
more here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/010496.html

I just do not get why they are going on about his so called race.

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He is equally white and yet they are constantly calling him African American.
What about the half of him that isn't?

It seems folks get labeled by looks.
I get called Irish....but I have absolutely no Irish ancestry!

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posted November 08, 2008 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What *I* cannot understand, as a practicing Christian ie believing in God/Jesus Christ/The Holy Spirit, is WHY Obama used the phrase "GOD BLESS AMERICA" at the very end of his acceptance speech in Chicago. Um...what? The God that is being referred to in that statement, for me, is the Christian God. He is NOT a Christian. So, he's just saying that to try and make it all feel good?

I do believe we are in the end of times...but that's my opinion.

I just think the next 4 years will be very interesting...

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posted November 09, 2008 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JustAmanda ~

I believe there is only ONE God -- no matter what us humans name him. Why shouldn't the God that Pres-Elect Obama believes in be called upon to bless America??

We need all the help we can get!!

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posted November 09, 2008 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I detest the practice of swearing on the Christian Bible. In my divorces and other legal proceedings I have been involved in I REFUSE to swear on it. It would be a lie to swear on a thing I do not follow or believe in.
Also at the county court house all legally able to sign our marriage certificate refused to sign our Marriage certificate unless we agreed to a short but standard Christian ceremony. We finally found a Spiritualist/Pagan minister to do it.
The Christian Bible holds no place in ANY LEGAL or POLITICAL ceremony or practice.
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Why shouldn't the God that Pres-Elect Obama believes in be called upon to bless America??

We need all the help we can get!!


I have no problem with blessing from any god or goddess. A blessing is a blessing. Just keep the bibles out of it all...and none of that confusing God with Jesus nonsense.
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posted November 15, 2008 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What *I* cannot understand, as a practicing Christian ie believing in God/Jesus Christ/The Holy Spirit, is WHY Obama used the phrase "GOD BLESS AMERICA" at the very end of his acceptance speech in Chicago. Um...what? The God that is being referred to in that statement, for me, is the Christian God. He is NOT a Christian. So, he's just saying that to try and make it all feel good?

No offense. But who are you, or anyone for that matter, to state exactly what religious affliation a person is? The only person who can truly state that honestly and accurately is the individual themself.

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posted November 16, 2008 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What *I* don't understand, is the perception that even in such a vastly multi-cultural society as this, only the Christian God is allowed to bless the country??

With such a perception, it would follow that it would be "wrong" for an American Citizen of the Islamic Faith to ask Allah to bless America, is that true?? What if a Buddhist American Citizen called upon his faith to bless the country he (and we) live in?? What if a Jewish person did the same?? Would all that be "wrong" too, and cause a similar sneering suspicion??

I thought practicing Christians try to love, understand and help their neighbors?? I'm curious why has it come to this, that some of Christ's current followers have become an insular and doubting group, narrow-minded and fearful of other races and belief-systems, looking into the future only with the hope that their Armageddon and their Rapture arrive soon.....

From MSNBC, dated *last January* ( http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22767392/ )

Obama sets record straight on his religion
Presidential candidate battles misconception that he's a Muslim

updated 9:49 a.m. CT, Mon., Jan. 21, 2008

COLUMBIA, S.C. - Barack Obama is stepping up his effort to correct the misconception that he's a Muslim now that the presidential campaign has hit the Bible Belt.

At a rally to kick off a weeklong campaign for the South Carolina primary, Obama tried to set the record straight from an attack circulating widely on the Internet that is designed to play into prejudices against Muslims and fears of terrorism.

"I've been to the same church _ the same Christian church _ for almost 20 years," Obama said, stressing the word Christian and drawing cheers from the faithful in reply. "I was sworn in with my hand on the family Bible. Whenever I'm in the United States Senate, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. So if you get some silly e-mail ... send it back to whoever sent it and tell them this is all crazy. Educate."

Obama is referring to a debunked chain e-mail circulating widely on the Internet that suggests he is hiding his Islamic roots and may be a terrorist in disguise. It says he was sworn into the Senate on the Quran and turns his back on the flag during the pledge.

Some facts, some misstatements
There are some truths in the e-mail's details. Obama's middle name is Hussein. His father and stepfather were Muslim. And he spent part of his childhood in Indonesia, a largely Muslim country. But he attended secular and Catholic schools, not a radical madrassa.

His campaign has been pushing back against the false rumors all year. His aides decried an incorrect news report that Obama was educated in a Muslim madrassa and a section of his Web site is devoted to correct that and other false rumors circulating on the Internet.

But they are stepping up the effort now that the campaign has hit South Carolina and soon turns to other southern states where religion is so important to voters. The campaign distributed an open letter from seven Jewish senators this weekend condemning the attacks; aides are planning an event this week to respond directly to the e-mails; and campaign representatives blanketed South Carolina churches Sunday with literature that touted Obama's Christian faith.

One piece features photos of Obama praying with the words "COMMITTED CHRISTIAN" in large letters across the middle. It says Obama will be a president "guided by his Christian faith" and includes a quote from him saying, "I believe in the power of prayer."

A second piece, which like the first doesn't mention the Muslim rumor, includes photos of Obama with his family and a caption that says they are active members of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. It explains how as a young man Obama "felt a beckoning of the spirit and accepted Jesus Christ into his life."

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posted November 16, 2008 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Azalaksh
I could not have expressed it better! :thumbsup"
As I remember with shock and disgust being refused to have my marriage certificate signed by ANY judge/justice of the peace...and I asked many! All for reusing to let them do a Christian ceremony complete with Christian bible and verses.
And in my divorces and also as a juvenile being held in contempt of court for refusing to swear on the almighty Christian bible.
Called crazy by a psychiatrist because I said I saw a UFO...as did the Sheriff and a reporter for the newspaper....yet he stood there and insisted angels were real and the Christian bible is the word of God and I needed to believe in it to be cured of my delusions.)
OK...rant over for now...except for one more thing....
The 10 commandments all over the public places, law places....the same commandments Moses and his murderous minions (and many others..including King David..and more) broke by murdering anyone not of their faith. How odd...ancient Jewish laws from the Christian bible on stone and brass on/near our law and government places...The Christian God asked to bless us on our money....
Separation of Church and state is a big ugly lie in this country.
Yeah what if a non Christian were to run for President? If he/she was cool with swearing on the Christian bible I would doubt their convictions and sincerity. What else would they lie about?
OK...rant over for now.

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posted November 17, 2008 07:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Obama was brought up as a muslim but decided to follow christianity, it suggests to me that he is able to think for himself, and probably quite deeply. I feel that is a very good thing, regardless of what religion a person chooses to be with.

But who knows.

Only time will tell.

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posted November 22, 2008 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If memory serves, I think I have posted a message that has been lost in the cyberspace. Unless I get mixed up and actually posted it on another thread started by LEXX.

In that post, I commented that we could call Barack Obama as "the first non-Caucasian president of the USA", since he has multiple ancestries, including many European ones. However, although I am not an American and it might not be my place to comment, as I am neither an expert nor a local of the States- the USA is a immigrant nation. Most US citizens have mixed ancestries, many Caucasians consider themselves white, not knowing they have African ancestries; conversely, a good deal of the African Americans today have Caucasian ancestries, yet they have darker skin than their white co-ancestors (but lighter skin than their African co-ancestors) and for various personal reasons, they would rather consider themselves black, or African American, notwithstanding their Caucasian ancestries. The majority of the contemporary African Americans do not share exactly the same blood lines with their African co-ancestors. I guess that's why people call President-elect Obama "African American". The mere presence of one African blood line in a person would make the multi-racial individual consider himself or herself black- that is, African American. Sometimes it all boils down to personal attitude toward one's own racial self-identification. These matters, however, do spark controversy and heated debates.

The US has been prodominantly worshipping a non-existent God, largely monotheistic, Christian, and in court or in presidential inauguration, vowing with a hand on a copy of the Bible is the "norm". If an individual is honest to himself or herself, and s/he happens to be a non-Christian, in my opinion, whether s/he is in court, having a civil wedding, or a president-elect, s/he should be true to himself or herself and refuse to vow by the Christian Bible.

I hope this post will get through.
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posted November 22, 2008 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D for Defiant!
Excellent observations!

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posted November 23, 2008 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D for Defiant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, LEXX!!!

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