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darkdreamer
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posted February 04, 2009 04:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Meta,

I am not very good at horaries, but I recall Kim Falconer saying once, that if you ask a "Yes / no question" and Sun and Moon are above horizon, it would point to a YES.

But I have never heard anyone else say that.

Did you ask the question or did she herself?

BTW interestingly the ASC is conjunct your own Venus, so you are kinda involved in that matter.


Hmm, let`s see, if she is represented by 1st house, then she is Moon in Gemini in 11th house,probably she is in a bit of flirtative mood right now, but it`s not necessarily a sign of lasting emotions (or does she have Gemini somewhere in her chart?).

Her boyfriend probably is signified by the DSC in Capricorn, and Saturn in Virgo.
Now the Moon in Gemini is peregrine to this Saturn - there seems to be a lack of rapport or deep connection with her boyfriend. Maybe she feels that there is something missing?
Saturn is in her 3rd house and retograde - I guess the communication with him is off balance at the moment.

Now her new interest is probably signified by the 5th house, which falls in Scorpio, BUT Moon in Gemini is peregrine to that Scorpio, too. So there is no real inner bond / connection either. In horary you look at the old rulers, so Mars in this case, now Mars has just changed signs and is in Aquarius.
It had been trine Moon some time ago, so there was a connection, which might give her a feeling of interest. But this contact ha been in the past.

Now we could also look at the aspects Moon is going to make.

Moon has just left a trine to Jupiter - I guess he made her feel good and positive, but again, it is in the past.
Now Moon has also been trine to NN, might have been very significant to her.

The last aspect Moon will make (signifying the result, so to speak) is this square to Saturn.
There are two possible interpreations:
1. this is a clear No, this is a really bad idea, as SAturn is signifying a strong block and even coldness

2. since Saturn represents her boyfriend, there could be a clash with him over that matter, maybe even a separation

Interestingly neither Venus nor Libra (representing love) play any kind of role - it`s like horary sais this is not about love, there is something else she is looking for.

With the ASC in Cancer, I suppose, she really is looking for emotional closeness and good rapport, which her connection to her boyfriend may lack at the moment.


Of course maybe I have now been saying only nunsense, but remember, I know very little about horaries.

In the end it`s her decision.

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message
ah... meta - that is what i was looking for.
that is what i think too.

soulmates do not come and go like the wind.

there is no revolving soulmate door.

thank you meta
you restore my faith

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message
then it stand to reason - in my mind - that to meet 4 soulmates in one month is not possible - nor probable - nor feasable.

so that being said, not all astrology connections are necessarily scientifically true, or proven. sometimes it can be a fluke>? no? just a chance pluto venus number thing...no? cmon dd.

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posted February 04, 2009 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
I know. I hate how i see everywhere: "Does Venus Conjunct Mars mean we're soulmates?!?!" "Oh man, his Pluto is on My Venus and Mars- we're meant to be together forever!!!!"

Come. On.

I'm gonna pull a PA here and say, you can be with someone, and be happy with someone and they don't HAVE to be your soulmate. If you think they are, then fine. You shouldn't need a stinkin' chart to tell you you'll be together forever. Just be happy you're in love. Don't let astrology get in the way of your happiness. If you see a bad aspect, that doesn't mean your relationship is over, you know?

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message
it just is not possible.
ok.
there you have it.
i mean, i met my soulmate, ok then we broke up and i met my other soulmate, ok then we got in a fight and guess what, i met another soulmate...that didn't pan out, so here is another chart, wow, it is my soulmate.\

either not freaking possible, or soulmates are cheetos and can be picked up anywhere at the gettin place.

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posted February 04, 2009 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Soulmates are Cheetos... HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message
agreed. meta, my baby girl hero.

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message
look dont knock my relationships with cheetos. and dont look at my fingertips either. orange giveaways.

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posted February 04, 2009 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

She has Sun in Gemini. The boy she wants to chase has Moon, Mars & Jupiter in Gemini.

Thank you so much for taking the time to look at that. So much was accurate.

I did not ask, well... ok, i asked her what her question was and she said: "Should i fall for Justin?" So, that's what i typed in.

So then, the answer is No? She should try to work it out with her real lover? Basically what i got from your interp. was that she's looking for a true connection, and she THINKS she can have that with this other boy. However, she really wants it with the guy she's with...?

Or is the answer Not Right Now? Would you say...

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
i say if you are looking at door number two, door number one aint gonna hold you long.

what do i know... i have orange soulmate fingers

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posted February 04, 2009 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Sun,

We just speak the same language love. MUAH***

I think it's pretty pathetic and irritating when i see a threads saying, "I've found my soulmate... but wait, here's another soulmate! Oh, and another!!"

Umm, sweetie, soulmates don't grow on trees.

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darkdreamer
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posted February 04, 2009 04:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Sunshine,

my take on it?

Well, to put it bluntly, many of this is fantasy. Trying to make a connection something special by putting the label "soulmate" on it.
In some cases it may even be the attempt to justify somewhat abusive or manipulative behaviour. And sometimès it`s easier to say: "He`s a twinsoul in denial" than accepting that he`s just not into you.

I`m not saying that it doesn`t happen; but it doesn`T happen THAT often. It`s like we all know there are pupils who are extremely intelligent and have bad results in school, because they are under-challenged. BUT not every people with bad results is under-challenged.
So I think not everyone who leaves you, is running away etc. is a Twinsoul or soulmate.

Personally I think a soulmate touches your soul, that is pretty deep. You have to be open to admit it, and if one soulmate after the other rushes through one`s life, that seems to be a sign that someone is NOT open. It takes some time.
And it takes time to recover.
If a soulmate leaves you, you don`t just say: Okay, he`s running, but I gladly accept it.

That is ******** in my opinion. If you lose someone you care so much about, even if completely unrequited, and you have to face that reality that there just will never be anything in fact, it is not rosy and dreamy and saying: Everything is good.

In the first time it`s hell. It feels like you`re dying inside. And in fact you are.
Of course you will be "resurrected", but it takes some time.
If you let someone in your soul, a part of him stays there forever. And I actually think, you don`t need to label it, you just feel that it`s this way.
And if you, after really hard work on forgiving and accepting, finally can accept it - not gladly, that would be a lie- but you can accept it, this experience is carved into you forever, has shaped you, transformed you, and you have learned some hard lessons.

But something like this takes time, sometimes more, sometimes less. But certainly you will need longer than a week. lol


I also think that soulmates aren`t necessarily about romantic love.
I love what Forrest said regarding thsi: "You two are soulmates. And sometimes soulmates kill each other."
lol
NOt what you want to hear, though, if you believe someone is your soulmate.

But yes, I believe, soulmates are those people who really touch us in the depth of our souls and who therefore will have a long lasting effect on us.

Hey, you wanted to hear my take!

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posted February 04, 2009 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Sun,

quote:
what do i know... i have orange soulmate fingers

LMAO!!!!!!!

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message
thank you dd.
thank you very much
i believe that too.
to believe otherwise cheapens what is special.

and somethings should be special:

top shelf liquor
cheescake
soulmates
clean sheets
kisses
smiles
love
the first day of spring
graduation
soulmates
peach cobbler

you know -special


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posted February 04, 2009 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely List Sun!

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sunshine_lion
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posted February 04, 2009 04:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
gotta run girls,have to go home and pack. hopefully pop back in tonite or in the morning before my flight!
hugs to all!~

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darkdreamer
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posted February 04, 2009 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I do think we can see something in synastry about how a connection could be. Definitely.
It will be reflected - somehow - in the chart, but tjo think that ONE (not so rare) connection alone will guarantee you you have found a soulmate ROFLMAO.
But noone really believes that, or do they?

This is actually exactly thre reason I relie much on houseruler ships in tight, tight, tight orbs, cause they are very rare and unique.

I thought it was amazing, I looked at some relationships (celebrities again) and found they always had DW concerning houserulers, and one of the planets falling in a relationship-house in the other one`s chart.
Example:
His ruler of 4 conjuncts her ruler of 5; her ruler of 4 trines his ruler of 8. And her 4th house ruler falling in his 7th house.


Okay, I then proceeded to check the same number of people who just have nothing to do with each other - and those connections did NOT pop up, not even once.

I don`t know if that is a clue to soulmates, but I thought it was interesting and worth to make a note in my mind.
Probably all that it shows is that a relationship between two people would bep ossible.


Ah, but speaking of soulmates I just asked the question: WHAT IS A SOULMATE?
(It just rolled from my fingers into the keyboard )

This is the horary to that question.


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posted February 04, 2009 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
meta

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I'm gonna pull a PA here and say, you can be with someone, and be happy with someone and they don't HAVE to be your soulmate. If you think they are, then fine. You shouldn't need a stinkin' chart to tell you you'll be together forever. Just be happy you're in love. Don't let astrology get in the way of your happiness. If you see a bad aspect, that doesn't mean your relationship is over, you know?

***PA wipes tear from eye***

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posted February 04, 2009 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Good philosophy

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posted February 04, 2009 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks AG. I just think too many people are looking for this false sense of security that they're going to meet someone and it's going to be happily ever forever. You can't have that up-front. You may never have that. It lasts as long as it lasts, there's no guarantees - ever. And to expect it to be a bed of roses without a single thorn is unrealistic. It's not particularly romantic, but it's real. And that said, I'm a great romantic. Albeit, a practical one.

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posted February 04, 2009 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
And, if you want another take on things, just check out Aloof's post in this thread:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000681.html
Oh my!

Mr PA is not my twinflame, or eternal beloved or whatever. But he's a good Earth mate and despite our less than stellar astrology, it works. 15 years and counting and we didn't need the charts to tell us to take it day by day.

I'm totally convinced that there are people who, despite their feelings, won't give a relationship a chance because of the charts. I think they map potential and also the dynamic - giving you insight into how to work around things, not inspite of them. Mr PA's favourite word is "no". His Saturn sits right on my Mercury. Okay, so I just find another way around things.

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posted February 04, 2009 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Your philosophy actually sounds the same as mine. You can ask the keeper at Soul Unions. I always put forward that attitude. The most recent time was Libralove's thread in Astro 2.0.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000557.html

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posted February 04, 2009 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
It's not what people want to hear though, is it?

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posted February 04, 2009 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Probably not. I just plant the seed knowing that someday it will grow.

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posted February 04, 2009 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I get that. I must be more jaded though, because I feel like a broken record on this subject. You're offering someone sound, practical advice when they really want to hear the wishy washy romantic version.

The what do I do to attract this person's interest or attention threads get me. Experience says, go out there and just be who you are and attract the right person for you, as opposed to go out there and act a certain way that compromises yourself so you can attract a particular person. You say that and they say "yeah, makes sense" and two posts later they're agreeing to the advice from someone else to wear something black and sexy because the guy is a Scorpio.

But you're right. I can definitely see that. If you plant those seeds, they'll make sense at some time.

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