posted April 16, 2009 05:51 AM         

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Sadly, not all females like men with big hands. Well, gladly for the population of males - like Johnny Depp - who don't possess these strong, masculine...

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As you know, I am Ms Mars in Gemini so I love lovely hands on a guy. Mr 23 unfortunately is a nail biter and he has thin, knotty fingers. I think JT might be a nail biter too. He has slender fingers and not the best looking hands. I like men's hands to be boxy looking and solid and square. SLB's got 'em.

posted April 16, 2009 07:23 AM           

thank you for looking at this long list.

"It is with Jude right and it seems to be with RDA..."
Actually it`s the progressions for the evening I`m going to see "Hamlet".

"RDA - Karma-Moon is interesting, some return of emotion and then his Karma on your DC too."
Yes, especially since his pr Karma-Moon also conjuncts my Draconic Moon, which sits on my DSC and conjuncts my SN. Does he stir something up from inside of me, something from the past?
Probably.
Well, yes, he does. Even though his Moon currently is still out of touch, but will approach that sensitive point in the next months.
It`s almost ridiculous how many dreams I`ve been having about the past. Both my current past (leading into childhood) as well as some weird dreams, that could relate to past lives, or are just strong metaphors for something that is going on inside me.

"I think the big one actually is p-Venus conj p-Ant-Vx, you're inviting him in for a relationship after he has sought one with you if that makes sense."
Yeah, well, now I only have got to meet him.
Sometimes it`s easy to forget, that some things are just not possible.

But I thought it was very interesting, that he has that natal Venus-Pluto-opposition from Aquarius to Leo.
And my Moon is sitting on his Venus and opposing his Pluto in the natal synastry.
And NOW this exact constellation is triggered by the progressions as well. In his case his Venus had been retograde at birth, but now has changed direction and thus conjuncts my Moon again (has returned to its birth-position or actually moved over it). And I have that Mammut-progression of Mercury, Venus, Antivertex on these degrees of Aquarius.

It`s almost weird.
You know when I ran into my musical crush coincidentally, this mega-progression had just started for me, and he has his natal SN on my Moon, so in some way for him it might have been a (subconscious) reminder of the past, more so as the transiting Saturn-SN-conjunction was exactly on his Pluto.

Now, I start developing this crush on RDA and again that progression is being triggered.

And even Jude ties into this as his progressed Sun, Moon and Mercury are falling on my natal Moon, pr Mercury, pr Venus and pr Antivertex, too.
And actually my pr VEnus is just currently trying to catch up with his pr Antivertex. LOL

It almost feels like the universe is trying to tell me something about Aquarian energy and mostly about my unaspected Moon and ruler of the 8th house probably.

Not to mention this long line of planets that have been transiting through Aquarius lately.

"Judey baby - So you're seeing him in the flesh?!!?"
Yes, I do.

" Again Sun-axis connection. You're going to hear him communicate and it will turn you on! (Merc-Lust)."
That`s not completely impossible, yes, I admit it.

posted April 16, 2009 07:26 AM         

My prog -his natal
* conj (4) between my p-ASC and his Moon
* prog-Saturn square his n-Mars (2)
* prog-Vx conj his n-Jup
* p-Venus/p-Merc square n-Neptune
* p-NN opp n-Moon

My natal- his prog
* His prog-Psyche/Mars was at 2 deg Gem, Eros at 1 deg Gem. My n-psyche at 6 deg Gemini, I've mentioned to you it is applying and will be exact in the next few years.
* n-Sun/n-Merc trine p-Psyche/Eros/Mars
* n-Eros opp p-Sun (exact)
* n-Venus trine p-Venus
* n-Moon conj prog-Nigel
*n-DC conj prog-Nigel
* n-MC conj prog-Moon
* n-Venus conj prog-Jupiter
* n-Eros conj prog-POF
*n-Saturn square prog-Hera
* n-Mars square p-NN
* Sun/Moon = prog-Juno
* n-ASC conj p-my first name in his chart

Prog (me)-Prog (him)
* p-Moon conj p-Vx (wide, 3 deg)
* p-Nep conj p-Juno
*p-Vx conj p-Jup
* I have a memory that my n-Cupido is at the same degeree as his p-Karma
* p-Karma conj p-Nigel
*p-Jup trine p-Ura/p-Venus
* p-Psyche square p-Pluto
*p-Psyche opp p-Juno
*p-Neptune trine p-Sun
*p-Sun/p-Eros opp p-Pluto
*p-POF conj p-Moon
* p-my first name in my chart opp p-NN (exact)

Oddly, p-Nigel in his chart opp p-my first name in his chart (p-my name asteroid trines his p-Sun in his chart too)

p-my first name in my chart opp p-NN (exact)- this is interesting. I was struck by how familiar he was to me (and still is). There's other things that point to familiarity

BTW Last year, my pNigel and pEros was conj my n-first name asteroid in my chart and his n-Chiron. My p-Sun was 3 deg sep from his n-chiron.

posted April 16, 2009 07:26 AM           

"I think probably the most important stuff is NN, Vx aspects if you can find it."
You mean in terms of destiny or fate or short, but transformative encounters?

"Then maybe equivalent is the Sun-Venus, Venus-Mars progressions as well, don't you think?"
Well, Sun-Venus and Venus-mars-progressions seem to be very predominant at the outset of relationships. But of course that doesn`t always happen. But it`s interesting to note.
In this case I noted that Sun-Venus-conjunction, event hough it`s a tad wide, because I have natally pr ASC conjunct my Venus,w hich feels significant in itself.

Oh BTW I think Blashke said that regarding Vertex-progressions only in terms of conjunctions and oppositions, natally or through synastry.
But I think it wasn`t limited to Venus alone, event hough Venus would be pretty strong hint at "fated romance". Well, but we know astrology is all about potentials, only.

"He COULD see you DD!

EDIT - he SHOULD see you!"

EDIT: He WILL see me.

Seriously, I always thought I was being good in becoming invisible, but my experiences of the last 3 years showed, that it doesn`t happen anymore.
I have repeatedly made the experience that I was being seen even from stage, mostly towards the end of course.
It happened several times with different actors. Heck, my musical crush even noticed me when I was trying to hide away in the middle of the audience. lol

Since that damned Pluto has been transiting over my Sun and Mercury in 1st house, I feel, like I can`t hide anymore.
It`s like Pluto had touched me, then turned to the world and shouted: "Hey, world, here she is. I have found her. Come and have a look." LOL

And now I am having Uranus squaring Sun and Mercury. I can tell you these are exhausting times.

And on the evening(s) of "Hamlet" transiting Venus will be in my 7th house opposing my Sun and Mercury exactly; transit Mars will also be in my 7th house on my SN.
Transit Uranus will be exactly square my Sun and Mercury.

Funny though, transit Pluto will be exactly conjunct the composite Sun of our composite.

Even funnier, when I ran into my musical crush (like a sleepwalker actually) Transit Neptune was conjunct composite Sun.

And before that, when I saw that other actor and had the definite feeling he had seen me (I kinda got that feeling when he was staring at me for some minutes, despite being on stage. lol), Transit Pluto was exactly conjunct Composite Sun.

And yes, last year when I was having that little chat with another singer, I liked, Transit Pluto was conjunct composite Sun.

I can`t help it, it just happens. I`m innocent, really.

Of course it is all a coincidence, but some coincidence with an interesting pattern. ROFL

I`m just observing, not interpreting.

posted April 16, 2009 07:27 AM           

" I first clapped eyes on him Aug 2006 and something dislodged in my head and I haven't been the same since."
Yes, isn`t it surprising and startling and amazing, how we can be affected by someone we don`t even really know?
But it happens. It has happened to me and it happens still.

"* p-NN opp n-Moon"
SN-Moon - is definitely soulmate-stuff, or at least a recognition of a soul level, no matter if it comes to awareness or not.

"syche/Mars was at 2 deg Gem, Eros at 1 deg Gem. My n-psyche at 6 deg Gemini, I've mentioned to you it is applying and will be exact in the next few years."
Be afraid, be very afraid! LOL
No seriously, ERos-Psyche is a nice one, I like that sizzling atmosphere it spreads.

"* n-Venus trine p-Venus"
One of the love progressions. Romantic and sweet. Full of adoration, admiration, which fits, doesn`t it?
Have you started becoming more creative?
Writing poems, composing music, painting pictures?

"* p-Moon conj p-Vx (wide, 3 deg)"
P Moon is a fast one, so if Moon is approaching Vertex, this will become exact this year.
Moon-Vertex is also one of these soulmate-progressions, but probably more of the family-kind.

"*p-Sun/p-Eros opp p-Pluto"
That sounds serous hot actually. Or obsessive?
How does someone with Mars in Gemini deal with such passionate and obsessive aspects?

"this is interesting. I was struck by how familiar he was to me (and still is). There's other things that point to familiarity"
Yes, and the progression definitely point to that, too.

It`s interesting how progressions even work with celebrity-crushs. Strange, but nice.

posted April 16, 2009 07:35 AM         

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Seriously, I always thought I was being good in becoming invisible, but my experiences of the last 3 years showed, that it doesn`t happen anymore.
I have repeatedly made the experience that I was being seen even from stage, mostly towards the end of course.
It happened several times with different actors. Heck, my musical crush even noticed me when I was trying to hide away in the middle of the audience. lol

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!!!!!!!!! Yes, the universe is playing mah-jong with us! That's how I feel sometimes except last year I kept on bumping into famous people.

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And now I am having Uranus squaring Sun and Mercury. I can tell you these are exhausting times.

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Gosh, with Pluto hovering, surely that's some sort of discovery or something that will be uncovered right?

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"I think probably the most important stuff is NN, Vx aspects if you can find it."
You mean in terms of destiny or fate or short, but transformative encounters?

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Fated feelings and turning points.

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event hough Venus would be pretty strong hint at "fated romance"

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posted April 16, 2009 07:43 AM         

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Does he stir something up from inside of me, something from the past?

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It's a such a perplexing feeling when that happens. I get it so rarely myself that when it does, it's just sooo nonsensical to me. And the dreams are just perplexing....I had a funny one a few nights back myself!

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And I have that Mammut-progression of Mercury, Venus, Antivertex on these degrees of Aquarius.

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What's "Mammut"? In regard to the things that you said, it's like we have astro jokes played on us by the universe!

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and he has his natal SN on my Moon, so in some way for him it might have been a (subconscious) reminder of the past

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So how does all that Uranian energy feel? I've had it all my life so I know no different!

Oh man oh man, you must let us know about that play! I'll be dying to hear and I'm starstruck just listening to you!

I've got to go to bed now, so see you soon . I'll see if there is any MP stuff tomorrow...

posted April 16, 2009 07:57 AM           

"It's a such a perplexing feeling when that happens. I get it so rarely myself"
Well, just lately I have been having this feeling so often, that it just cannot be true. lol

But seriously, it never felt as strong as it feels with RDA (my musical crush almost 20 years ago felt similiarly strong, too; must be my Moon on his SN); not even with Jude, even though he also feels very familiar.
But with RDA; in the beginning when I was seeing him on TV I was actually staring at his face, racking my brain what it is that makes him feel so familiar. I never found out though, so I guess I just have to accept that he does.

"I had a funny one a few nights back myself!"
Oh I love those dreams, they are very enlightening, even though confusing at the same time. But they make me look more closely at myself, at what is "cooking" inside.

"What's "Mammut"?"
Oh sorry, it`s a German name for a HUGE animal from the ice age. Don`t know how it is called in English.
But it means something is really big and huge.

" In regard to the things that you said, it's like we have astro jokes played on us by the universe!"
Yes, but again and again?
I msut be a good toy for the universe. LOL

And the universe is even going further than playing astro jokes. I clearly remember having told a friend of mine, when I developed that liking for Jude, that I would never have the chance of seeing him live, even despite that dream in which he told me that I would (four years from then, which is this summer. lol).

Or me running into my musical crush - that is just a very cruel joke, isn`t it?

"that Uranian energy feel? I've had it all my life so I know no different!"
I`m not completely sure. I had Uranus conjunct my Moon a while ago. it was an exciting time, with so many new discoveries, and me growing in so many ways, especially overcoming some fears.

BUT it was also a time where I was hyper-nervous, hectically, with that dizziness and panic attacks, and it`s simmering under the surface again.

But I think I sorta know now that these phases of dizzyness and nervosity and panic happen mostly then when I try to resist getting carried forwards.

It`s like Uranus is dragging me into one direction, and I put my feet firmly into the ground and will not move, so there are two powerful forces dragging me into different directions, and then I start feeling dizzy. No wonder. Usually when I get moving, on a bus or do something I have never done and never thought I could, I feel better instantly.

The only thing that Uranus won`t let me be is being shy or cowardish or succumbing to my fears.

posted April 16, 2009 04:33 PM         

wow wow wow wow i'm so touched

THANK YOU. !!!!!!!!!

Such a beautiful picture - i'm speechless. I love it .

posted April 16, 2009 05:51 PM         

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"*p-Sun/p-Eros opp p-Pluto"
That sounds serous hot actually. Or obsessive?
How does someone with Mars in Gemini deal with such passionate and obsessive aspects?

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That's actually his Pluto opp my p-Sun/p-Eros. Well, I do natally have Pluto on the DC so I guess if we were to materialise in reality together, probably wouldn't mind it

I'd like to see that as him pulling me in I guess. I uncovered something there or he pulled me in and let me see. And the strange thing is that he has really taught s*itloads about astrology believe it or not, especially about physiognomy of astrology (ties in very nicely with the NN in Sco/8th - see the post in Astro2 about NN in Sco) because I guess of the attraction to him. Hope that makes sense.

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"* p-Moon conj p-Vx (wide, 3 deg)"
P Moon is a fast one, so if Moon is approaching Vertex, this will become exact this year.
Moon-Vertex is also one of these soulmate-progressions, but probably more of the family-kind.

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I checked it again and unfortunately, it was separating.

Stangely my p-Lust was conj n-Nigel/n-Eros and opp his p-Sun. His p-Lust was conj my name in his chart (natal)/n-Lust and my n-BML.

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But seriously, it never felt as strong as it feels with RDA (my musical crush almost 20 years ago felt similiarly strong, too; must be my Moon on his SN); not even with Jude, even though he also feels very familiar.
But with RDA; in the beginning when I was seeing him on TV I was actually staring at his face, racking my brain what it is that makes him feel so familiar. I never found out though, so I guess I just have to accept that he does.

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The familiarity is unexplainable but the intuition of it must be the Uranian energy flowing through you. Are you feeling very intuitive at the moment? I mean, you are discovering things without even needing to go exploring or looking right? These things just pop into your head, it comes to you? I understand the RDA feeling though, it's just so frustrating why you can't explain why someone is familiar, it kills me personally. I think personally why I find JT appealing is that he fit my ideal image of myself if I was to consider myself attractive. Of course, in reality I don't look like him nor am I even close to his looks!

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"I had a funny one a few nights back myself!"
Oh I love those dreams, they are very enlightening, even though confusing at the same time. But they make me look more closely at myself, at what is "cooking" inside.

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I had a really odd one a few nights ago where I was sitting cross legged on the floor in a room and Duran were all there sitting on chairs next each other. I was kinda near where John's legs were and I was trying to not look at him and trying to listen to their conversation (they weren't paying me any attention) and all I could think of was "Sh*t, I haven't shaved my legs!" LOL and that was the whole dream haha.



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"What's "Mammut"?"
Oh sorry, it`s a German name for a HUGE animal from the ice age. Don`t know how it is called in English.
But it means something is really big and huge.

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And the universe is even going further than playing astro jokes. I clearly remember having told a friend of mine, when I developed that liking for Jude, that I would never have the chance of seeing him live, even despite that dream in which he told me that I would (four years from then, which is this summer. lol).
Or me running into my musical crush - that is just a very cruel joke, isn`t it?

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BUT it was also a time where I was hyper-nervous, hectically, with that dizziness and panic attacks, and it`s simmering under the surface again.
But I think I sorta know now that these phases of dizzyness and nervosity and panic happen mostly then when I try to resist getting carried forwards.

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t`s like Uranus is dragging me into one direction, and I put my feet firmly into the ground and will not move, so there are two powerful forces dragging me into different directions, and then I start feeling dizzy. No wonder. Usually when I get moving, on a bus or do something I have never done and never thought I could, I feel better instantly.

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posted April 16, 2009 06:57 PM           

"I'd like to see that as him pulling me in I guess."
Yes, him being Pluto that is pretty likely.

"s*itloads about astrology believe it or not, especially about physiognomy of astrology (ties in very nicely with the NN in Sco/8th - see the post in Astro2 about NN in Sco) because I guess of the attraction to him. Hope that makes sense."
Perfect sense. Actually when I was having that crush on that musical actor, I started seriously doing astrology, too.

"tangely my p-Lust was conj n-Nigel/n-Eros and opp his p-Sun. His p-Lust was conj my name in his chart (natal)/n-Lust and my n-BML."
Must have been a lusty experience?

"The familiarity is unexplainable but the intuition of it must be the Uranian energy flowing through you."
Yes, that could be, even though unexplainable familiarity could also be neptunian.

" Are you feeling very intuitive at the moment?"
Kind of.

" I mean, you are discovering things without even needing to go exploring or looking right? These things just pop into your head, it comes to you?"
Yes, but to be honest, I have always had experiences like that, images, visions, dreams, inspirations. The difference is just I have started taken them seriously or at least listening to them.
And since I have started doing that, the flow has become pretty overwhelming.

Well, I have been through some transits in the last years (since 2001).
First Transit Uranus conjunct my Moon, and then later Transit Neptune conjunct my MOon and it still is conjunct my Psyche, and at that time Transit Pluto was conjunct my Sun and Mercury (and will be conjunct my Venus on 6 Capricorn) and now Transit Uranus also squares my Sun and Mercury while Transit Neptune sextiles it. I can`t complain about too little transiting action.

" someone is familiar, it kills me personally."
Yes, I wanna know, always, everything. An unsolved mystery is just torture for my Gemini SN. lol

" I think personally why I find JT appealing is that he fit my ideal image of myself if I was to consider myself attractive."
So there is a lot of identification, like oyu see yourself in him, or an idealised version of yourself?

Well, I do not feel that way about RDA. Or maybe a little bit, when it comes to his sense of humour maybe.
But he just feels familiar, as if I know him or have known him. STrange.

posted April 16, 2009 06:57 PM           

Well, I better not talk about my last RDA dream, I mean a dream with a story, because basically he threatened to kill me (or leaving me outside in the snow in a hard Russian winter in Siberia), unless I told him what he wanted to hear. Well, he didn`t kill me in the end, but jeez, what a strange dream that was!
Even stranger, when I looked up the name of the woman he had called me, she actually existed and she had been in Siberia. That was weird!
I mean that was already the second time within only months I dreamed of complete strangers and later found evidence for the existence of persons and places, I had never even heard of before my dreams.
The only thing they had in common, was that they were both set in war-times, the first one in 1918, the second in about 1943, in Russia and Czech republic.

I`m not sure what my subconsciousness is trying to tell me. Those are pretty disturbing dreams.

The "hero" of the one in the Czech republic was Jude (actually there were two dreams that were connected to each other, and these dreams had a very disturbing emotional effect on me) and as I said the Siberia-dream featured RDA, but this one was less disturbing, as I was more some kind of observer or something like that.

Anyway, strange dreams.

"I've calmed down a lot since then and you will probably too."
Well, I`m a pretty calm person, and I think I need some shots of Uranus now and then.

aCtually I forgot to mention that my progressed Sun currently is on 0° - 1° Aquarius and therefor squaring my natal Uranus - so more Sun-Uranus for me. Yay. lol

"Hmmm, when I got together with Mr 23, Ura was 15 Aqu. My NN is 18 Sco, Vx 16 Sco. Never noticed that. "
Definitely important. Uranus shook your world literally.
Is Mr 23 Uranian in nature?

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"tangely my p-Lust was conj n-Nigel/n-Eros and opp his p-Sun. His p-Lust was conj my name in his chart (natal)/n-Lust and my n-BML."
Must have been a lusty experience?

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It was beyond that, I can't really describe it. It felt like a train being driven through me cross my gut dropping out like it does in an elevator/plane with turbulence. I'll never forget that sensation. Of course, you get it in reality with some people you are attracted to but there was also this sense of uncovering something or intuition. I can't explain it really.**

** Edit it could link to the Neptunian description below.

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Yes, that could be, even though unexplainable familiarity could also be neptunian.

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The difference is just I have started taken them seriously or at least listening to them.
And since I have started doing that, the flow has become pretty overwhelming.

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First Transit Uranus conjunct my Moon, and then later Transit Neptune conjunct my MOon

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An unsolved mystery is just torture for my Gemini SN. lol

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" I think personally why I find JT appealing is that he fit my ideal image of myself if I was to consider myself attractive."
So there is a lot of identification, like oyu see yourself in him, or an idealised version of yourself?

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You know, I just realised I described an aspect between us. My Sun squares his Neptune. My Mercury also square his Neptune. My Mercury is telling me that this is wrong LOL and I know it is wrong. And since then, the image of course doesn't fit reality but my Sun is begrudgingly following! So... it would be very interesting from the Neptune person's point of view...

EDIT - my Uranus which rules my Sun is conj his Neptune in my 7th. It gets worse doesn't it? (and also my Neptune trines his Uranus).

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Well, I do not feel that way about RDA. Or maybe a little bit, when it comes to his sense of humour maybe. 
But he just feels familiar, as if I know him or have known him. STrange.

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Does his Neptune touch your Jupiter or something like that? Any Neptune aspects?

posted April 16, 2009 08:12 PM         

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Well, I better not talk about my last RDA dream, I mean a dream with a story, because basically he threatened to kill me (or leaving me outside in the snow in a hard Russian winter in Siberia), unless I told him what he wanted to hear. Well, he didn`t kill me in the end, but jeez, what a strange dream that was!

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I mean that was already the second time within only months I dreamed of complete strangers and later found evidence for the existence of persons and places, I had never even heard of before my dreams

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Funny how that happens!

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aCtually I forgot to mention that my progressed Sun currently is on 0° - 1° Aquarius and therefor squaring my natal Uranus - so more Sun-Uranus for me. Yay. lol

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There you go sister!

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posted April 17, 2009 04:28 AM         

Glad to see you back.

Things have calmed down a little bit here.

posted April 17, 2009 04:32 AM         

Things were a bit quiet here.

posted April 17, 2009 04:34 AM         

Not sure how I would answer it. I am still thinking on it but my instinct was that I don't dislike most people I meet. Sometimes it can take some effort to tune into someone to find that thing that makes you understand them, tolerate their foibles or whatever it is that helps you get along. That's if you are obliged to - most people I meet I don't have to spend time with or it never happens.

posted April 17, 2009 05:10 AM         

btw I go along with your indifferent but every now and then strong either way on first meeting.