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CappyChic
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posted September 15, 2003 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CappyChic     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all... does anyone wanna try to lexi the word pentagram?

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RubyRedRam
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posted September 15, 2003 11:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Cool yeah, I will have a go at it soon!!

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WychOfAvalon
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posted September 30, 2003 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WychOfAvalon     Edit/Delete Message
this would really be interesting to see

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CappyChic
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posted October 07, 2003 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CappyChic     Edit/Delete Message
Ruby Red? Are you around?

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majenta
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posted November 04, 2003 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for majenta     Edit/Delete Message
I know little about the Pentagram. From what I have learned I came up with the following.

A PAGAN MAP A PENTAGRAM
A PAGAN MANTRA GRANT A MAP

I looked at the numerology and Pentagram was 33, not very insightful. If I add an s for Pentagrams you get No. 27 SCEPTRE (All leters in pentagram except c). This number is fortunate of courage, power and a touch of enchantment (taken from Star Signs).

With the added S you can see-

RAM and MARS (associated with the No. 5, Pentagram having 5 points)

STAR

SAGE

I think the 'S' has special meaning.

Also, Pentagram contains 'TEN' (and no other number)

Maybe someone with further knowledge of the Pentagram can help me spiral further?

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Ra
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posted November 04, 2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I think pentagram being a 33 is very interesting!

The pentagram is a very important symbol in the Masonic tradition ... you will find it in many a Masonic temple, among other places. And the number 33 is perhaps their most significant number - the 33 levels or degrees of the Order.

The 33rd parallel holds more than a few curious sites - Bermuda Triangle/Atlantis, Bahgdad, Roswell, and the Great Pyramids sit on the 30th, all 3 of them. ... there are many more.

There are 33 complete turns in a strand of human DNA, Jesus lived 33 years, and King David ruled for 33.

... really, there is no end to the connections with 33, the pentagram, and the Masons, which all of the above are associated with.

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majenta
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posted November 05, 2003 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for majenta     Edit/Delete Message
That is very interesting Ra. Thank you so much for your input. 33 does make more sense to me now.

Does anyone have any reasons why MAP is in Pentagram? Is the Pentagram a map for something??

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Ra
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posted November 05, 2003 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
PENTAGRAM(S)
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AN ANGER PENT
A GREAT RAGE
A RAM SENT
A SATAN SAGE

That just kind of popped out at me.

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La-Tee-Da
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posted November 05, 2003 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for La-Tee-Da     Edit/Delete Message
With permission from a dear,dear friend, I present:

MAGIC OF THE PENTAGRAM

PEACE ON EARTH!!!
NO HARM TO NO-NE!
NOT FOR HARM,
NOT FOR HATE.

PAGAN ART, PAGAN CRAFT
NOT AN EGO TRIP,
NOT AN AGITATOR,
NOT A FARCE, EITHER!!

IT CAN ENTICE AN EAR OF CORN
FROM EARTH.
AN ACORN, AN APRICOT
GO IN THE POT.
A CHEERING GNOME,
A PATIENT ONE,
CHARGING THE CHARM.

I IN ME HAT, AND ME PHANTOM CAT,
CHAMPION(s) OF THE NIGHT.
TOGETHER, CHARGING THE ARTIFACT(s)
CHARGING THE GEM(s).

GREETING THE ROMANTIC,
GREETING THE MIGHT.
FORGETTING THE HATE!
HAMMERING THE IMPORTANCE OF
"NO HARM TO NO-NE"

NO NIGHTMARE IN IT,
NO ROTTEN RETCHING CREEPING FEAR,
NO RAMPAGE, NO NETHER REA(l)M.

FOR A COMMITTEE OF THIRTEEN.
A FORTNIGHT OF TEACHING, PREACHING
"NO HARM TO NO-NE!"

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Borrowed, with permission, from Sly on TSP. In a time, far,far away, Sly and I used to communicate on another site and have remained in contact to some extent, so she allowed me to share her lexi with you.
Thank you, Sly.

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Hugs,LTD ~~The struggle keeps us young~~Daring to make mistakes and knowing there are none.~~DGM

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Randall
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posted November 08, 2003 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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LeylaLeFay
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posted January 23, 2004 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeylaLeFay     Edit/Delete Message
Oh wow that was sooooo kewl La-tee-da.

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grayheart
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posted January 23, 2004 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grayheart     Edit/Delete Message
pentagram

grant men ten great mantra
trap anger
tame rage
pen name
part gate
tear apart age
entrap mean men
ram mate ra get man
tame an age (of) anger, rage
ra a great man grant a game map
a great team: ram, ra, man

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Aselzion
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posted January 24, 2004 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

Ra, very interesting connection to the 33 degrees of Masonry! I believe that there is a connection to the Qabalah there... in the Qabalah there are 32 Paths of Wisdom... one might say that a master has attained them all! Just a thought!

In terms of Pentagram being a 33 in numerology... why would you want it to be a 27? 33 is a Master Number, as all the double numbers are (11, 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, 99). They show great power for good or ill according to the WILL of those that bear them. Does the Pentagram not represent great power? Can it not be used for good or ill according to WILL (or intent)?

When right side up a Pentagram (or Pentacle) is the symbol of the dominance of Spirit over the 4 Elements. The Pentagram (and or Pentacle) is also a PERFECT depiction of the Phi ratio (1.618034). Phi ratio is also known as the Golden Mean or Golden Section in art and architecture.

What jumps out at me when I take a quick look at Pentagram in Lexigram is:

MAN: A GREAT MAGE

A MAGE (in) GERM (we all have the wisdom or ability to attain to mastery; the seed or germ of greatness/mastery within!)

ANGER = RAGE = AGE (see Chapter 9 of Star Signs)

A GEM (when one truly understands the esoteric meaning behind the symbol of the PENTAGRAM)

A GAME (Life has been called a GAME, has it not? This can be food for great thought and spiraling!)

MAN = AN AGENT (of) RA (are we not all individual points of expression for the ONE LIFE in whom we live and move and have our being? {God})

A MATE; A TEAM (I think this is fairly self explanatory)

MAN; A MAGNET (do we not attract from the universe that which we hold in our hearts? Is this not the beginning of magic and miracles? Isn't the Pentacle or PENTAGRAM a most potent magical symbol?)

Again, this is what I get when I take a cursory look... I also know that another name for a PENTAGRAM (the 5 pointed star) is PENTALPHA... so I think there's a lot of spiraling left to be done.

Blessed Be...
Frater A

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"The ALL is MIND; the Universe is Mental." *** The Kybalion

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Aselzion
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posted January 25, 2004 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings...

OK, so today as I sat waiting for a table at breakfast I revisited the PENTAGRAM Lexigram, and this is what I spiraled.

MAN: A PENTAGRAM
PENTAGRAM: A MAN (if a MAN or woMAN stands with feet spread and arms extended out to the sides he/she will be in the shape of a 5 pointed star = PENTAGRAM) Not only that, but if one were to do the math on the human body, like the PENTAGRAM, MAN's (or woMAN's) body would found to be in Phi proportion.

To back track to my first Lexigram:

MAN: AN AGENT (of) RA

in that same vein we find:

MAN: A PART (of) RA
RA: A PART (of) MAN so we find yet another confirmation that MAN and GOD (RA) ARE (o)NE

A little more confounding, or perhaps disturbing:

RAPE: MAN ANGER (now, rape has always been thought of as a crime of POWER and not of SEX. When one feels POWERless, or if one is disturbed (here you may read INVERTED, or evil) ANGER can lead one to lash out in a violent and hateful way. Hrmmm)

Now in terms of why MAP may be found in the word PENTAGRAM...

When I Googled Phi and PENTAGRAM, I found these sites:
http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/jan4/mann.htm
http://www.vortexmaps.com/htmla/rennes2.htm

Hope that may help to shed a wee bit of light on that mystery.

Blessed Be...
A

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Aselzion
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posted January 27, 2004 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message
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Miracle
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posted February 05, 2004 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miracle     Edit/Delete Message
Beautiful work Majenta... and La-Tee-Da! Aselzion, as ever, offering insight... I agree, yes we are magnets in the Universe.

Furthermore, I believe that everything in Universe eventually (sooner or later) goes back to its source: thoughts, actions, energy, spirit, everything.

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lotusheartone
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posted October 31, 2006 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotusheartone     Edit/Delete Message
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angel_of_hope
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posted November 06, 2006 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Wow!!! how fitting ... i just got done reading a book titled, Simple Wicca. The pentagram was one thing i wanted to research further on ... i found it very facinating.

Great lexi work La-tee-da!

Aselzion, as always, your just full of info.

When i looked at the word Pentagram, i immediatly saw the word, PAGAN. In which, i know someones already pointed that out ... but then i saw ... TERM in the remaining letters ... so PAGAN TERM - how fitting!

This one will have me thinking for sure ... thanks CappyChic for the spirals you've envoked.

Ang-

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Randall
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posted November 15, 2006 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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