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bleakbeauty
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posted April 29, 2006 08:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I really want to lexi a name that has more than 3 vowels...how can I do that? The three names I want to lexi (a first name, middle name and surname) have all the vowels in it. Even losing the middle name gives it more than 3 vowels.

What do I do? Any help is appreciated.

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fayte.m
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posted April 29, 2006 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Use all the letters you have.
That simple.
Do not add letters you do not have.
Do not remove any you do.
Works just fine contrary to other opinions.
I never add or remove any letters from a name. To do otherwise would make the resulting lexigram to not be based on the person's name.
Not condusive to accuracy.
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bleakbeauty
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posted April 29, 2006 10:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message
COOL, that means I can make more words.

It's just in Star Signs the rules are no more than 15 letters of the alphabet, and no more than 3 vowels.

Oh well.

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Randall
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posted April 30, 2006 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Linda said using four vowels is okay.

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fayte.m
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posted April 30, 2006 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message
LG's way is just "one of many" ways. Use whatever works for you.
Personally I have never encountered any problems with more than 15 letters or more than all the vowels. Whatever letters are in the name, date or phrase etcetera, THAT is EXACTLY what I lexigram. NO CHANGES. How can a lexigram be an accurate reflection of the source name/phrase etcetera if one deletes, adds or alters it before lexigramming it?

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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SunChild
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posted May 03, 2006 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
You never delete, add or alter a word before you lexi. Right, and Linda never said to do that either!!

If you have a phrase or an entity with, for example, 22 SEPARATE letters, and all 5 Vowels, you then can generate nearly every word in the English language. It doesn't mean that you should not and can not lexi it, it's just common sense to expect that you can get thousands of words.

The more condensed the word the better. I thought Linda's 'rules' were more common sense than anything else. She never said to alter a word before you Lexigram.

In addition, if by accident you add a letter when you Lexi, then some will always see it as an 'accident' and remove it, or some others will see not so 'accidental'...it's not something to fuss over really. Follow your intuition, always.

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fayte.m
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posted May 03, 2006 08:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes...I can understand why LG came up with a limited/simple version of lexigramming. But I want thoroughness and accuracy. My name exceeds LG's rules. Dates exceed LG's rules often. Doing a person's FULL name, with their FULL date of birth yeilds often very interesting and revealing things about them!
The date of "September Eleventh Two Thousand One" is so amazingly accurate when lexigrammed it is downright spooky!
september eleventh two thousand one:
AEEEEEEEOOOU
BDHHLMNNNPRSSTTTTVW
Also word counts even in the thousands do not always supply words to easily create a lexigram. The number of connecting words is a big factor when it comes to creating a lexigram. Such words as, I, me, it, the, us, am, and, the, an, for, to, of, as. in, on, not, has, is, was,.....etcetera.
Number of Words in the English Language"The OED2, the largest English-language dictionary, contains some 290000 entries with some 616500 word forms." 616500 words ...
I have lexigrammed thousands of names and phrases and dates. I have NEVER gotten nearly all the words in the English language. Even doing the ENTIRE alphabet will not get anything close to that.
Most folk's names only have a few hundred to under a few thousand words. Some only have a 100 or less. That is far from ALL the words. And while many are not easily used or useful in a lexigram, it is fasinating to discover one has such words(as one person I did who had 4 names!) paradisiacal,abstemious,verisimilitudes!
It is also fun to see what names are in ones name.
Number of Words in the English Language
"The statistics of English are astonishing. Of all the world's languages (which now number some 2,700), it is arguably the richest in vocabulary. The compendious Oxford English Dictionary lists about 500,000 words; and a further half-million technical and scientific terms remain uncatalogued. According to traditional estimates, neighboring German has a vocabulary of about 185,000 and French fewer than 100,000, including such Franglais as le snacque-barre and le hit-parade." 500,000 words

1,000,000 words
(including scientific words)

Encyclopedia Americana, Volume 10. Grolier, 1999. "The vocabulary has grown from the 50,000 to 60,000 words in Old English to the tremendous number of entries -- 650,000 to 750,000 -- in an unabridged dictionary of today." 650 - 750,000 words
Oxford English Dictionary, Second Edition, Volume 1. Oxford University Press, 1989. "In addition to the headwords of main entries, the Dictionary contains 157,000 combinations and derivatives in bold type, and 169,000 phrases and combinations in bold italic type, making a total of 616,500 word-forms." 616,500 words
Webster's Third New International Dictionary. G&C Merriam Co., 1971. "This dictionary has a vocabulary of over 450,000 words." > 450,000 words
Wilton, David. How Many Words Are There In The English Language? Wilton's Word & Phrase Origins. 7 February 2001. "The OED2, the largest English-language dictionary, contains some 290,000 entries with some 616,500 word forms." 616,500 words

Have you ever encountered a person who just keeps on rambling on and on with no end in sight. If you have, you might have wondered if he/she would ever run out of words to say. Unfortunately, that will remain a dream for all of us.

As we enter the Twenty First Century, English is the most widely spoken and written language on Earth. English was first spoken in Britain by Germanic tribes in Fifth Century AD also known as the Old English (Anglo-Saxon) period. During the Middle English period (1150-1500 AD), a lot of the Old English word endings were replaced by prepositions like by, with, and from. We are now in the Modern English period which started in the Sixteenth Century.

The number of words in English has grown from 50,000 to 60,000 words in Old English to about a million today. There are a number of ways in which the English vocabulary increases. The principal way in which it grows is by borrowing words from other languages. About 80% of the entries in any English dictionary are borrowed, mainly from Latin. Another way is by combining words into one word such as housewife, greenhouse, and overdue. The addition of prefixes and suffixes to words also increases the immense vocabulary of the English language.

Today, more than 750 million people use the English language. An average educated person knows about 20,000 words and uses about 2,000 words in a week. Despite its widespread use, there are only about 350 million people who use it as their mother tongue. It is the official language of the Olympics. More than half of the world's technical and scientific periodicals as well three quarters of the world's mail, and its telexes and cables are in English. About 80% of the information stored in the world's computers (such as this text) are also in English. English is also transmitted to more than 100 million people everyday by 5 of the largest broadcasting companies (CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC, CBC). It seems like English will remain the most widely used language for some time.

Johnny Ling -- 2001

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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Randall
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posted May 04, 2006 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll

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SunChild
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posted May 05, 2006 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
"September eleventh two thousand and one" does not break any 'rules'...!

You're right, it is very revealing, perhaps we should start a new string on it.

Yes there are many many words in the English language, the more closer you get to using the 26 letters of the alphabet, and all the vowels, it's obvious you generate and abundance of words, so many infact you could write a book!

I still stand by what I said it really does make sense to me.
But Fayte, I totally admit to lexigramming really long phrases and names, even with all 5 vowels. I have really become attuned to lexigramming that I often reveal things using intuition. I often forget the rules and just go for it.
It's nice to have heaps of words to play with.

I've never used a tool to extract the words, I've only used my patience and mind. But that's not for everyone. I just like the feeling of knowing that I did all the work.

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fayte.m
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posted May 05, 2006 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message

I have done the entire alphabet.
It would be a very boring book.
You need to do the alphabet X4 to get anything close to a substantial vocabulary to write a real book.
An even that is not all the words.
I read dictionaries for fun, but even with that my actual vocabulary is not that extensive. So yes....I use dictionaries after I find the words I know. The words are there from the source word whether we found/find them or not. They still exist. One can find them by whatever means or stay within the limited vocabulary of the average person. Nothing wrong with that. I simply prefer as much completeness as possible!

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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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SunChild
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posted May 12, 2006 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Fair enough.

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fayte.m
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posted May 13, 2006 12:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message

HOWEVER....
LINDA DID SAY DROP LETTERS!
WHY DOES EVERYONE KEEP SAYING SHE DID NOT?
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~I intend to continue learning forever~"Fayte"
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
-NEXUS-

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LEXX
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posted January 28, 2010 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP!
AS TO DROPPING LETTERS...
example:
SHE SAID SOME COPIES OF THE LETTER "O" IN MOONLIGHT SONATA" did not count.
That is utterly ridiculous!
OF COURSE THEY COUNT!
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