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ListensToTrees
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posted January 12, 2008 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Understanding and Empathy are the only way......."EVIL" is "LIVE" spelled backwards, both contain "VEIL"- it is ALL an illusion- break on through to the other side!

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fayte.m
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posted January 12, 2008 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Anagrams of LIVE

Vile
Evil
Live
Veil

Lexigram words and names within LIVE

VILE
EVIL
VEIL
LIVE
LIE
LEI
VIE
I
EL
LEVI
ELI
EV
LIV
IV
VI
LI

And add an "S"
and get TO ADD THESE TOO!

SI
ELVIS
LIVES
EVILS
LIES
VEILS
VIES
IS
ISLE
VISE
LEVIS

or add a possessive "S" to any noun here.

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 12, 2008 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message

But what does it mean?

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fayte.m
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posted January 12, 2008 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Nothing or whatever YOU wish to ascribe to it.

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ListensToTrees
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posted January 12, 2008 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Do you believe in the word druids?

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fayte.m
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posted January 12, 2008 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
An interpretation which may have merit or not.
Most of humanity is asleep.
They LIVE their LIVES in a web of self delusion and illusion or subscribe to what they were told, not what they have experienced. They are blind...the VEIL, they refuse or are afraid to see through it or are unable to lift their own VEILS.
Or some LIVE in ignorance, taking pride in what they believe rather than a true knowing, and so LIVE by the true EVIL, the LIES, the self deceptions, blinded beneath a VEIL of their own making. The true sin, adhering to such ignorance, self deception and complantancy. The LIVE their LIES, they believe are true, the LIES they were told also.
They do not truly know EL, ELI, IE the true God Allah, the All.
The one within, the one force that LIVES and LIES within each of us. No they cannot see, behind the VEIL of LIES. So they LIVE in proud ignorance EVIL. EL, ELI, VIES for their soulminds to lift the VEILS of self imposed ignorance to see the presence of EL,ELI, within All.
The LIES begain by LEVI and other false prophets, who (as it is written) and most do not see, due to the VEILS placed by the false
God, not the true EL, the All;
and they who believed LEVI, do not know EL,ELI, and continue to LIVE the LIE, either in blind ignorance...self deception, beneath the VEIL. or even worse, know they are living a LIE, EVIL and VILE yet choose that path and worse yet, teach the LIES to others.
The self, the I, can choose EL, ELI the God within, the All, or can choose to LIVE the LEVI(ite) LIES of the false prophets who serves the false god, the EVIL EL God of LIES and VEILS, who blinded humanity and sent false prophets like LEVI to VIE with the wisdom of EL, ELI, Allah, the All and blind humanity to the truth.

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posted January 12, 2008 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Believe in the word druids? I know who they are and they are/were not as thought.
They meant well though. Poor lonely delusional wannabe muses.
I am not posting what I have discovered here.
Believe what you wish of them to be.

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posted January 12, 2008 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's because, in a sense, there are truths and non-truths in all things- as all things come from this creation/ illusion of ours, where we decided to live and experiment as separate divine sparks.

"If I mind, it matters- if I don't, it won't"- Linda Goodman.

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posted January 12, 2008 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
To continue with Linda's own words on the matter of "her personal rules and truths", which many have taken to heart as Linda's way is the only way!
That is NOT what Linda said!
xxxviii INTRODUCTION
quote:
Neither should you blindly accept, on your quest for truth, the validity of the star sign codes of the Universe I offer in this book-until you have practiced and carefully tested each one, so that you can decide for yourself rather than take my word for it.

To continue, in Linda's own words:
xl INTRODUCTION
quote:
However, I do not ask-nor do I even expect-any of you to regard my concepts as your truth, unless they should happen to agree with your own personal enlightenment and private convictions.

Concerning truth:
INTRODUCTION xli
quote:
But real Truth can be found in one place only-in every man's and woman's communion with an eternal Source of hidden Knowledge within-which each individual must seek and find for himself or herself.

I do not believe that Linda had intended for any of us to set her up high upon a pedestal and worship her blindly nor even agree with her or follow her way, her path.

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posted January 12, 2008 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
I thought her above quotes were very wise.

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posted January 12, 2008 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Well said.


I think it is inevitable for anyone "great" or "small" to come up with inaccuracies in their teachings- it is just something we have to put up with in this life, as an effect of the "VEIL".

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posted April 04, 2008 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ListensToTrees     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

http://www.need2know.eu/?p=199

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posted April 06, 2008 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
I like what Cruxshadows does when showing their motto of "Live, Love, Be, Believe." You can see them do it in the last 10 seconds of this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVNjx4k8mWk

I liked how they did put it on their last CD, too.


And while just sharing without much point (beyond "interesting") is that Michael Tsarion video also reminded me of something said by Rogue of the CXS (Cruxshadows):
http://www.legendsmagazine.net/134/rogue.htm

quote:
KM: The English dictionary defines: Crux- a crucial/vital moment or central feature. Shadow- the rough image cast by an object blocking rays of illumination. I tried putting the two together to see how it would fit, but instead of me wracking my brain figuring it out…what is the significance of the name "The Cruxshadows?"

Rogue: Well, that isn't the only definition of crux...it is the Latin word for "cross." Our English usage of the word being derived from the idea of the crossing point...anyway, cross plus shadow equals "shadow of the cross." That is its literal meaning...you are familiar with the band's logo? Well, the symbol for our band is a cross (a tribar eastern orthodox cross to be precise) with a field of light on one side and a field of dark on the other.

What is important here is the idea of exclusion...or outsiders...because when all is flooded with light the cross will still render a shadow; a place the light can't reach. Unfortunately it is mankind's tendency towards intolerance to eliminate or dismiss all who are different, or "unworthy."

During the crucifixion of Christ, the people who stood in the shadow of the cross were effectively the most loyal and, in a sense, special of his followers. This is despite the fact that they were outcast from society...they were women, prostitutes, tax collectors, and beggars; quite literally the underclass in Jewish and Roman culture. Yet they were able to succeed in something that the "stronger" more accepted classes failed in. So what does this have to do with us...? Well cruxshadow being a word of my own design, I attached to it the meaning of those "who are made outsiders by society, but who through their actions or ideas, become true insiders." Or more succinctly stated: the subset of the outsider. In mathematical terms a subset is one that is contained within, yet does not contain the larger set as a whole. If you again look at the CXS symbol, you will see two concentric circles which references this idea...that the outsiders are in essence, closer to the center. I know all of this sounds ridiculously complicated...but you brought it up...


It also reminded me of a poignant & beautiful (though sad) song called Ocean Gipsy by Blackmore's Night. Here are the lyrics:

quote:
Tried to take it all away,
Learn her freedom... just inside a day,
And find her soul to find there fears are laid...
Tried to make her love their own,
They took her love... they left her there,
They gave her nothing back that she would want to own...

Gold and silver rings and stones,
Dances slowly off the moon,
No one else could know, she stands alone...
Sleeping dreams will reach for her,
She can not say the words they need,
She knows she's alone and she is free...

Ocean Gipsy of the moon,
The sun has made a thousand nights for you to hold...
Ocean Gipsy where are you?
The shadows followed by the stars have turned to gold...
Turned to gold...

Then she met a hollow soul,
Filled him with her light and was consoled,
She was the moon and he the sun was gold...
Eyes were blinded with his light...
The sun she gave reflected back the night
The moon was waning, along out of sight...

Softly Ocean Gipsy calls...
Silence holds the stars a while,
They smile sadly for her where she falls...
Just the time before the dawn,
The sea is hushed the ocean calls her,
Day has taken her and now she's gone...

No one noticed when she died,
Ocean Gipsy shacked to the tide,
The ebbing waves, the turning spreading white...

Something gone within her eyes,
Her fingers, lifeless, stroked the sand,
Her shattered soul was lost,
She was abandoned...

Silken threads like wings still shine,
Wind swept pleasures still make patterns
in her lovely hair... so dark and fine...
Stands on high beneath the seas, cries no more,
her tears have dried...
Oceans weep for her, the ocean sighs...


If you'd like to hear it, along with some awesome pix, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JysW6eI5_TU

You know, it also reminds me of a metal song (I think it's called "ballad metal") called All The Fools Sailed Away. The lyrics:

quote:
There's perfect harmony
In the rising and the
falling of the sea
And as we sail along
I never fail to be astounded by
The things we'll do for promises
And a song

We are the innocent
We are the damned
We were caught in the
middle of the madness
Hunted by the lion and the lamb

We bring you fantasy
We bring you pain
It's your one great
chance for a miracle
Or we will disappear
Never to be seen again

And all the fools sailed away
All the fools sailed away
Sailed away

We bring you beautiful
We teach you sin
We can give you a piece
of the universe
Or we will disappear
Never to return again

And all the fools sailed away
All the fools sailed away
All the fools sailed away
Sailed away
Sailed away

And as we drift along
I never fail to be astounded by
The things we'll do for promises
And a song

We are the innocent
We cut we bleed
We're your one great
chance for a miracle
And a miracle is something you need

They'll take your diamonds
And give you steel
you'll be caught in
middle of the madness
Lost like them
And a part of all the
pain that they feel

And all the fools sailed away
All the fools sailed away
All the fools sailed away
Leaving nothing to say
All the fools sailed away

They say you're beautiful
And they'll always let you in
But doors are never open
To a child without a trace of sin

Sail, sail, sail away...


The song, and with more awesome pix (though different tone than Ocean Gipsy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt1RQUwm5hY

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