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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........LEXIGRAMMING... fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Jan 2008

posted June 19, 2008 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
WHEN LETTERS AND OR WORDS ARE ADDED THAT ARE NOT FOUND WITHIN THE SOURCE, THE RESULTING CREATION IS NOT A TRUE/ACTUAL LEXIGRAM!
IT IS A LEXIGRAM BASED READING.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH FOLKS ADDING NOT ALLOWED LETTERS BUT IT IS NOT RIGHT NOR HONEST TO HIDE THEM!!!!!!!!
P L E A S E
Do this if you add letters please!
For example you add an "S" you do not have.......
THI(s)
or an "O" T(o),
Or any letters not found within your "source".

Add all you want if that is your way , but Please do not "HIDE" your added letters.

Sadly I have also seen even the many so called "word masters/smiths/professionals"
out on the web making many errors or hiding their errors!

Shame on them!

If letters that are not found within the "source" word, name, date, etcetera;
are added to a Lexigram, or letters deleted which are found within the "source"...
The resulting creation becomes a Lexigram "based" reading;
NOT a true Lexigram or a Pure-Lexigram©
Taking or finding Anagrams and stringing them together is a form of simple Lexigramming,
only in that All Anagrams are also Lexigrams.
However All Lexigrams are NOT Anagrams.
True Lexigramming does not use Anagramming as their base.

I too could go off and create long long mystical sounding Lexigrams EASILY in A SHORT time if I resorted to adding letters willy nilly too! But that would not be true lexigramming and I have ethics and the integrity not to pad my Lexigrams with letters not found in the phrase etcetera I am Lexigramming, just to appear prolific and long winded to show off by "hiding" added letters and words!

It is the hiding of added letters I find offensive and sneaky, not the adding of letters you do not have, the having the audacity to call it a Lexigram.

So go ahead and ADD ALL YOU WANT BUT PLEASE BE HONEST AND DO NOT HIDE THE ADDED LETTERS!

AND DO NOT CALL IT A LEXIGRAM BECAUSE IT IS NOT IF YOU ADD LETTERS AND WORDS, HIDDEN OR SET OFF!

I am quite willing to help anyone find their errors and help them fix them!
Or at least show them which letters need put in brackets.
Why would anyone desire to hide their added letters other than to show off?
The casual error here and there I understand can accidentally happen. But there are folks who are knowingly hiding their added letters!
That is not honest nor ethical.
Nor is it as Linda said to do. But she hid letters too whether intentionally or accidentally, breaking even her own rules. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001709.html
I am willing to help and fix errors and teach.
And I can back up what I say.

The reasons I push so hard for accuracy when Lexigramming; is that while many folks consider it just an idle past time, a game, just for fun.....
There are many who do not think of a Lexigram, created for them, as simply for entertainment purposes.
For those who believe a Lexigram can reveal secrets, and can give them insight into relationships or themselves, or possibly answer other questions they have;

We owe it to them, to take our Lexigramming seriously and not try to impress them by adding information not actually there! That is very unethical!.

Lexigramming is an old form of Divination, and can be, an adjunct to a psychic, or mediumnistic reading. I feel Lexigramming should be treated with the same respect as Astrology or Numerology.
But I also wish to caution;

quote:
Never base your important life decisions on any form of Divination, be it Lexigramming, Anagramming, Astrology, and so forth. These things can assist in your decisions, but ultimately one should make decisions based on logic and common sense.

Additionally, using a Lexigram checker and a spell checker will allow anyone to do actual Lexigramming and not simply Lexigram based readings.
When words/letters are added the resulting creation is not a true Lexigram and the adding can radically affect the meaning and accuracy.

And of course one of the better generators out there can help anyone double check that they have not added any not allowed words.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001842.html

Linda said find ALL the words you can!
She said that before anagram generators were invented!
Even she indicated that it is once one has the words, THAT IS WHEN THE MAGIC BEGINS!

Cheating is as several so called professional Lexigrammers do...
taking anagrams or bits of anagrams from an anagram generator and stringing them together. While it results in a Lexigram, it is anagram based and not created letter by letter or word by word naturally.
That stringing together anagrams and partial anagrams gleaned from generators, is in my opinion, shoddy, lazy, poor Lexigramming.
I do not see a problem with the acquiring of one's words by any means, be it a list generator of simply the words, as an anagram generator also does separate from the silly anagram generator feature, or the use of dictionaries, or paper and pen and intuition. The trouble comes into play when one is so vain, and or stubborn to believe their personal vocabulary is actually that extensive enough to do a Lexigram effort justice.

For those who believe in word druids, they should be able to help one see the relevant words on a list! The words should jump out, and up and catch your eye if relevant, and the non relevant ones fade back unnoticed!
That is real magic!

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angel_of_hope
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posted June 19, 2008 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Faye,

I don't know how to say this without coming across as attacking you. But we all get it. We get that you have your ways and Linda had her ways, and other have their ways. Just because you believe that when letters are added they become Lexigram based readings does not mean thats what they are. Linda felt that if letters were added, mistakenly, then there was a reason for it. The word druids wanted what ever it may be, to be known. Just as adding the words, to, the, and, help the readers understand what the lexigram is trying to say. Linda did make mistakes, but there were reasons for it. Maybe she knew, maybe she didn't. Linda had a very cryptic way of showing us things.

I know you are passionate about lexigrams and doing them correctly, to your standards. But others are just as passionate about what they too can come up with and find hidden within the words. To have you constantly tell people how they NEED to be done, is getting a lil tiring. Each lexigram that is posted has a comment from you that can be read on just about any other lexigram that is posted with in the forum ...your message is everywhere and is heard LOUD and CLEAR. But just because we hear it and see it, does not mean people need to agree with it. Just as you don't agree with Linda's methods or Will I Am's method from www.goodworksonearth.org Remember that ... everyone has a way. One man says green another says blue ... who's right? Both ... they both see it in their own way, it's own light who are we or you to crush them and tell them there are wrong. What I'm saying is, we get it already.

I'm sorry if I have offended you in any way. I feel it was time something be said. Maybe its just me, I dunno. But I'm asking that you back off a lil from stepping in and correcting everyone, and insisting they conform to your methods of lexigramming. Remember this is Linda's site so most are gonna use her way .... although there is NO right or wrong.

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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........LEXIGRAMMING... fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Jan 2008

posted June 19, 2008 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
No you have not offended.
But have surprised me with your attitude.
However when a method can be disproved or proven LOGICALLY, then LOGICALLY there is a right and wrong way, LOGICALLY.
I have said nothing ILLOGICAL.
And some folks do HIDE ADDED LETTERS INTENTIONALLY.
Just because someone wants to say a cow is a horse does not make it true no matter what imp or psuedo religious mystical new age fervor for a supposed mystical validation of an untruth is. Logic is Logic and once out of those bounds it becomes chaos and all LOGICAL rules that can be proven are abandoned in favor of doing one's own thing which may or may not be logical, or provable.
It appears I offended you and those you are affiliated with perhaps.
And if you truly understood me you would have not commented as if I am wrong. I can back up my methods, others cannot.
I do not care if anyone has their own way but just as you get tired of hearing my methods, I get tired of the error filled Lexigramming I encounter out on the web. There are folks paying good money for sub standard service and do not realize it. That is unethical. And the misconceptions and the bigotry towards folks with what some say have unlexagrammable names. That is cruelty and uncalled for. I prefer to think Linda had not thought it out completely and if she were alive these days would say something like "wow! I guess any name CAN be Lexigrammed after all!" If you had read my other posts you would also understand that my methods are closer to LGs than certain others who cannot tell an anagram from a Lexigram and a word list from a Lexigram, or worse, call a word list an anagram!
If you desire to dis me then prove me wrong, show that my Lexigrams are crap, prove it and I will listen! But the reasons had better be LOGICAL and provable!
And BTW, all I wanted to do with this thread was to combine a few of my posts into one under my new user name and let the old user name ones fall away in the archives eventually, The newbies know me here as LEXX not my old user name.

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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........LEXIGRAMMING... fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Jan 2008

posted June 19, 2008 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Another thing...
quote:
Each lexigram that is posted has a comment from you

quote:
But I'm asking that you back off a lil from stepping in and correcting everyone, and insisting they conform to your methods of lexigramming.

WHOA THERE!!!
I HAVE NOT COMMENTED TO EACH AND EVERY "LEXIGRAM" DONE HERE!
IN FACT LAST TIME I TRIED TO CALCULATE THE PERCENTAGE I HAVE COMMENTED ON, THE NUMBERS WERE VERY VERY VERY LOW IN COMPARISON TO ALL THE ONES I DID NOT COMMENT ON!, AND SOME OF THOSE HAD UPWARDS OF 40+ ERRORS! HIDDEN ONES TOO!
Just wante to clarify that because I am really getting quite tired of folks saying I always comment to all Lexigram posts!
THAT IS UNTRUE JUST AS CERTAIN OTHER LEXIGRAMMING MISCONCEPTIONS ARE!
AND I SAID "PLEASE" DO "THIS", NOT FORCING ANYONE.

I am sincerely trying my best to ignore the repeat offenders, and have ignored many a shoddy "Lexigram" others have gone ga ga over without realizing such have many HIDDEN errors and added letters and words, not a few or small ones, but many.
OH TO BE SURE SUCH PSEUDO LEXIGRAMS SOUND REALLY FLOWERY MYSTICAL AND FABULOUS! ANYONE'S WOULD WHEN THEY ADD AS MANY WORDS AS THEY DESIRE TO FLUFF IT UP!
I DO NOT SEE WHY THAT IS CONSIDERED RIGHT OR ETHICAL!
LINDA SAID ADD A LETTER OF A SHORT WORD NOT DOZENS OF WORDS AND LONG WORDS!
I contribute alot here. I do not need to do so. Sorry it offends some, but it does not offend all. Some do appreciate my help and or guidance. And I got spammed by some of the offended ones. In fact I am still being spammed at a certain Lexigrammer e-mail address with up to 200 spam e-mails a day! There are only a few who would have such a motive.


Maybe I will start calling mine LexAgrams again to differentiate error free Lexigramming from error filled Lexigramming.

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silverstone
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posted June 21, 2008 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverstone     Edit/Delete Message
Lexx, I do admire your passion for Lexigraming-- your postings here shows you care is all, and I respect you for that and for your honesty for that matter~ You are a superb lexigrammer, my friend-- and most people here know that.


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LEXX
Knowflake

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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........LEXIGRAMMING... fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Jan 2008

posted June 21, 2008 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Bless you silverstone my friend!
You understand my passion well, better than most. I have devoted more decades to Lexigramming than anyone else I know of.
I am very willing to help folks fix their lexigrams and show them alternatives, synonyms and so forth to replace not allowed words. I have done this on several threads and gave step by step examples and worked with folks. My deepest thanks to those who want to learn. I have seen some very promising Lexigrammers here and some who are very good already who are able to create error free Lexigrams at times. It is a pleasure to read those!
Lexigramming for me is a passion and an art not a religious/cultish like pursuit that dismisses logical precision in lieu of haphazard adding and removing letters as ones' whim dictates. My Lexigramming methods are to Lexigramming what history/fact is to myth/religous belief. Belief is not fact nor logical, nor can it be proven. I can however back up what I say with logical proof.
OK rant over. I just want folks to realize I am not trying to make trouble. I also bump up threads for newbies here. There are other reasons some are angry at my Lexigramming interests and all, but not going to get into that right now. They know who they are and why my posts upset them.


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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........LEXIGRAMMING... fayte1954@hotmail.com
Registered: Jan 2008

posted June 21, 2008 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Another observation someone recently pointed out to me concerning Lexigramming ethics.
To add not allowed letters or words or remove letters, is akin to a Tarot reader or an Astrologer deviating from exactly what the Tarot Cards or Stars are revealing, and to then go on to removing things which might upset the client, or to add nice nice things which are NOT ACTUALLY THERE TO EMBELLISH AND FLUFF UP THE READING TO IMPRESS AND PLEASE THE CLIENT WITH FALSE INFORMATION!
Such practices are just as unethical to Lexigramming as it is when doing Tarot readings and or Astrological readings.
THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!

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