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princess_sparrs
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posted December 07, 2010 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a feeling I've done this one before, but it's been a long time since I lexigrammed it. Has anyone else tried this?

I do not remember if I'm allowed to add letters (like this). I own Star Signs but the book's not with me at the moment. If the added letters are not right, I will redo the lexigram. Any advice or comments appreciated.


BOOK OF REVELATIONS

A BOOK OF LATIN
IT LIFTS A VEIL
REVEALS TO ONE
A FALSE STAR
A VAIN, VILE REBEL
STARVE(D) OF LOVE

SAT(A)N TRAVELS, TALKS TO NAIVE ONES

AT LAST I SEE A BROOK, A FOREST OF LOVE
A FRES(H) SLATE FOR AL(L)
TO BREAK STALE LIVES, TO SAVE (U)S
TO LIVE AS EVE
TO RATION ONESELF
IT'S NOT TOO LATE

IT'S BET(T)ER LATE, NOT NEVER!
T(H)E ARTIS(T) OF (C)REATION IS RISEN
(H)IS LOVE IS FOREVE(R)

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 08, 2010 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you add letters to make it say what you want it to say, it's not a true lexigram.

Use what you've got.

I learned from one of the best--who happens to be around here somewhere.

But that was a pleasure to read, I think you've got the foundations for a good lexi there.

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LEXX
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posted December 08, 2010 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
princess_sparrs
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I have a feeling I've done this one before, but it's been a long time since I lexigrammed it. Has anyone else tried this?
I have, who knows where I put in, in what storage bin lol!
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I do not remember if I'm allowed to add letters (like this). I own Star Signs but the book's not with me at the moment. If the added letters are not right, I will redo the lexigram.
By Linda's rules, yes you may add letters sparingly which are not found in the source.
However, it will not be a real Lexigram.
Additionally as I have explained below;
you can try and force any meaning you wish, but if those words cannot be found from the source, you are in essence creating a falsehood. It is akin to an astrologer or Tarot reader, willy nilly making things up, telling you all sorts of fabulous things, details and forth, which are totally not true!
Why would anyone want to create in essence;
a lie? A falsehood?
As you can see, via my reworkings of your creation;
the added meaning you arrived at by using letters not found within the source;
RADICALLY CHANGED THE MEANING FROM WHAT WAS IN ACTUALITY THERE!
I cannot stress enough of that vital and valid importance when it comes to Lexigramming!
quote:
Any advice or comments appreciated.
Thank you! !
I shall try to help!
Please do not take offense!
And feel free to ask any questions!

Your original firstly:

quote:
BOOK OF REVELATIONS

A BOOK OF LATIN
IT LIFTS A VEIL
REVEALS TO ONE
A FALSE STAR
A VAIN, VILE REBEL
STARVE(D) OF LOVE

SAT(A)N TRAVELS, TALKS TO NAIVE ONES

AT LAST I SEE A BROOK, A FOREST OF LOVE
A FRES(H) SLATE FOR AL(L)
TO BREAK STALE LIVES, TO SAVE (U)S
TO LIVE AS EVE
TO RATION ONESELF
IT'S NOT TOO LATE

IT'S BET(T)ER LATE, NOT NEVER!
T(H)E ARTIS(T) OF (C)REATION IS RISEN
(H)IS LOVE IS FOREVE(R)



Here it is with un-allowed words removed;
now it is a LEXIGRAM!
Not very good, but now a Lexigram nonetheless!

quote:
BOOK OF REVELATIONS

A BOOK OF LATIN
IT LIFTS A VEIL
REVEALS TO ONE
A FALSE STAR
A VAIN, VILE REBEL
STARVE OF LOVE (my note:leave the D off starved and can use)

TRAVELS, TALKS TO NAIVE ONES

AT LAST I SEE A BROOK, A FOREST OF LOVE
A SLATE FOR
TO BREAK STALE LIVES, TO SAVE
TO LIVE AS EVE
TO RATION ONESELF
IT'S NOT TOO LATE (My note:ITS is fine because you can get IT IS)

IT'S BET LATE, NOT NEVER! (my note:ITS is fine because you can get IT IS, and dropped word better and left bet)
OF IS RISEN
LOVE IS



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However;
In Bibles
It is NOT Revelations (plural)
it is Revelation(singular) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Revelation
Which leads to a bit of a dilemma.
That means in addition to eliminating words with C-D-H-U
You now must drop the S.
That leaves very little of your original.
And, it was not originally in Latin.
It was Koine Greek apokalupsis, meaning "unveiling" or "revelation", which is the first word of the book.
quote:
BOOK OF REVELATION

A BOOK OF LATIN
IT LIFT A VEIL
REVEAL TO ONE
A
A VAIN, VILE REBEL
OF LOVE

TRAVEL, TALK TO NAIVE ONE

AT I A BROOK, A OF LOVE
A FOR
TO BREAK, TO
TO LIVE EVE
TO RATION ONE
IT NOT TOO LATE

IT LATE, NOT NEVER!
OF
LOVE


Would you like to work on a Lexigram of
The Book of the Revelation of John,
or
The Apocalypse of John, with me? And any others interested?
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Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal...LEXX
~Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~Carl Sagan
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine. ~Nikola Tesla"
~Love is the key to all that is good in life!
~But firstly, love thyself!
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princess_sparrs
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posted December 08, 2010 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes lexx I understand.

I wish I had my Star Signs book with me now. Unfortunately I have no computer at home (I'm visiting my parents at the moment).

What I wanted to look up was the lexigrams where Linda added letters. I'm sure there were many, but it may have just been a plural (S) or two.

It is tempting for me to break the rules, because I like the lexigram to flow otherwise it just looks like a bunch of words, as though I was doing a word puzzle or something.

I might stick to writing poetry

I knew "it's" was ok, and I did check twice that every letter I used (except the brackets) were in the phrase.

Ok, so there is not supposed to be an S. I guess I (S)crewed up big time

I'd never be offended from someone trying to help, and I know you would never criticise anyone unless it was constructive.

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LEXX
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posted December 08, 2010 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
princess_sparrs {{{hugs}}}
Thank you for understanding!
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What I wanted to look up was the lexigrams where Linda added letters. I'm sure there were many, but it may have just been a plural (S) or two.
Linda added quite a bit and radically changed the true meaning of her creations, most of which were not actual Lexigrams.
Like true Anagrams, Lexigrams must follow the rule of no added letters and or frequency of letters which cannot be found from within the source.
Otherwise the resulting creation is not only
neither a Lexigram nor Anagram, but at best, is poetry.
An example here of one of Linda's creations which illustrates the points I have made.
Druids Of Stonehenge~A Re-VISION~
quote:
It is tempting for me to break the rules, because I like the lexigram to flow otherwise it just looks like a bunch of words, as though I was doing a word puzzle or something.

I might stick to writing poetry



I totally understand!
However, it would not be a Lexigram, but yes, possibly poetry, if you added words/letters.
And yes, it is very hard at times to create a Lexigram! But adding letters/words which are not from the source, renders the resulting creation as not being a Lexigram.
quote:
I knew "it's" was ok, and I did check twice that every letter I used (except the brackets) were in the phrase.
Thank you for understanding the rules of contraction usage!
quote:
Ok, so there is not supposed to be an S. I guess I (S)crewed up big time
Awwwww....don't be so hard on yourself! Most folks think it is the plural form, "Revelations".
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I'd never be offended from someone trying to help, and I know you would never criticise anyone unless it was constructive.
I never mean to offend! I simply have longer and more experience than anyone I know of interested in Lexigramming, or who was interested, including Linda.
It deeply saddens me that so many folks have taken offense.:'(
My brief biography concerning that on these threads. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001891.html

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001895.html


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Everyone is a teacher...
Everyone is a student...
Learning is eternal...LEXX
~Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. ~Carl Sagan
~The present time is theirs, but the future is mine. ~Nikola Tesla"
~Love is the key to all that is good in life!
~But firstly, love thyself!
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princess_sparrs
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posted December 08, 2010 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lexx, I was under the impression that Linda created lexigramming, and that her rules where the only way to do it. Sorry for my ignorance. I didn't like her adding letters to the lexigrams in star signs either, but I understand why she did it.

When I'm lexigramming words pop into my head and I write them all down, and when I see those letters missing from the phrase it's very disappointing. It's like writer's block, hehe.

I need to read Star signs again and maybe try to lexigram what she did, without the additional letters. Just to see if I can make a great lexigram. I think the longer you spend on it,the better it will become. Sometimes I get impatient and stop spiralling because I want the end product NOW!

On a completely different note, I haven't read all of Linda's Gooberz (OOZE GOO). I bought it online years ago and I don't think I even made it halfway through without tiring of it. Can you tell me what you think of the book if you've read it? And should I read it again from the start or just try to remember where I left off?

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Lei_Kuei
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posted December 08, 2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by princess_sparrs:

Lexx, I was under the impression that Linda created lexigramming, and that her rules where the only way to do it. Sorry for my ignorance.


Linda is one of the few to have had such works published in recent times, but the art of lexigramming is as ancient as the stars themselves my friend


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LEXX
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posted December 08, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
princess_sparrs
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Lexx, I was under the impression that Linda created lexigramming, and that her rules where the only way to do it. Sorry for my ignorance.

Ahhhhh yes.
Again, no need to apologize!
Many folks assume that she invented them.
However as Lei_Kuei stated;
quote:
Linda is one of the few to have had such works published in recent times, but the art of lexigramming is as ancient as the stars themselves my friend.

Linda was an already published and widely known Astrologer with a large following when she discovered Lexigramming.
She did NOT invent them by any stretch of the imagination!
Also most of her rules allow too much leeway, (and often leads to creations which are not in actuality, Lexigrams.)
Then some of her rules are illogically restrictive on other points.

Please see my blog on such misinformation/assumptions,
and my explanations.

A Short History of LEXIGRAMMING and ANAGRAMMING,
plus DIVINATION by words and letters in the MANTIC ARTS.

More about Lexigrams and the word "LEXIGRAMS"

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posted December 08, 2010 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
princess_sparrs
I shall reply more to your queries and remarks
later, A.S.A.P.

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posted December 08, 2010 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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princess_sparrs
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posted December 08, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for princess_sparrs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lexx, my grandfather was a school teacher and wrote books of anagrams. He had boxes of them printed and gave them away for nothing, I loved sitting down with an anagram book for hours.

Also love crosswords, but not cryptic! I have fond memories of playing scrabble with my auntie and uncle until we had all used up every letter. We had the scrabble book which I guess was cheating a little, but still I found there are more 2 letter words than we think!

So lexigrams are very appealing to me, and thankyou for taking the time to explain this all.

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posted December 09, 2010 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Everything I eat has been proved by some doctor or other to be a deadly poison, and everything I don't eat has been proved to be indispensable for life. But I go marching on."--George Bernard Shaw

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posted December 10, 2010 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StarrofVenusGirl
Thank you!

Hey Randall!

princess_sparrs

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Lexx, my grandfather was a school teacher and wrote books of anagrams. He had boxes of them printed and gave them away for nothing, I loved sitting down with an anagram book for hours.
Wonderful!
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Also love crosswords, but not cryptic! I have fond memories of playing scrabble with my auntie and uncle until we had all used up every letter. We had the scrabble book which I guess was cheating a little, but still I found there are more 2 letter words than we think!
Lovely!
quote:
So lexigrams are very appealing to me, and thankyou for taking the time to explain this all.
You're very welcome!
quote:
When I'm lexigramming words pop into my head and I write them all down, and when I see those letters missing from the phrase it's very disappointing. It's like writer's block, hehe.
LOL!
Indeed! But resist the urge to add or it will not be a Lexigram!
quote:
I need to read Star signs again and maybe try to lexigram what she did, without the additional letters. Just to see if I can make a great lexigram.
Yours will be much better if you do not add!
quote:
I think the longer you spend on it,the better it will become.
True!
quote:
Sometimes I get impatient and stop spiralling because I want the end product NOW!
I have revised many of my Lexigrams more than once! Some not until years later for that matter!

PS.have not read any of Linda's books but
Sun Signs
Love Signs
Star Signs

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posted December 23, 2010 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"The stars which shone over Babylon and the stable in Bethlehem still shine as brightly over the Empire State Building and your front yard today. They perform their cycles with the same mathematical precision, and they will continue to affect each thing on earth, including man, as long as the earth exists." Linda Goodman

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