posted June 04, 2014 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Yellow... I was wondering: Why do you think the word "movement" contains the word "moment"?

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moment (n.)
mid-14c., "very brief portion of time, instant," in moment of time, from Old French moment (12c.) "moment, minute; importance, weight, value"
or directly from Latin momentum "movement" , motion; moving power; alteration, change;" also "short time, instant" (also source of Spanish, Italian momento), contraction of *movimentum, from movere "to move"

It has few words but interesting never the less.
MOVEMENT
EE MM N O T V

posted June 06, 2014 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
I thought it has a special meaning. For example, say that every movement is temporary and belongs in the moment in which it is conceived. I don't think language is arbitrary.

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posted June 06, 2014 09:32 AM            

Movement:
an act of changing physical location or position or of having this changed.

posted June 06, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Well-said, LEXX. Each moment is a movement in time...like a second hand on a clock.

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posted June 06, 2014 10:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
I think it's the Egg.

Cause chickens suck.

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posted June 06, 2014 10:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Parallel Earths probably mirror this one with many different languages.

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posted June 07, 2014 03:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
True. Which do you think is the parent? The smaller word or the bigger one? Or do they correlate?

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So "moment" is the child of momentum which is sibling to movement and momentum;
which are children of movimentum;
which leaves movere as grandparent.

LOL....well that is as simple as I can illustrate the evolution of "moment".

posted June 07, 2014 03:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Actually, this question has a wider context: How did language grow?

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Was there a growth in time, or some words were "prepared" from the very beginning?

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Remember that in Star Signs Linda writes that people on other planet Earths speak English! What do you think?

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Originally posted by Ayelet:

The Movement-moment can be set as some example to a possible answer..

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posted June 07, 2014 04:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
Linda relates to English as the primary language, that was torn to many languages after the fall (Babylon). She writes English is also the basic language at other Earths, so that if a certain Earth didn't fall, its English remained purer and more musical, while if it has fallen then i guess it has been divided \ torn to many languages as it has happened here. I didn't read something similar to this elsewhere, and don't have yet recollections of my own.

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Originally posted by Icygrace:
Hi everyone,
This question has been nagging me since the time i read in star signs that English is the ONLY language of power, and that it was the first language ever spoken. I cannot bring myself to agree with it.
I'm from India, and I know Sanskrit, many words used in English are directly taken from Sankrit. "Karma" itself, the meaning "act", is a word from Sanskrit. Kundalini, Kali (Goddess of rage), Chakra and Siva (Shiva, the destroyer) are all words from Sanskrit.
some words have been manipulated, such as Wagon - from the Sanskrit word, "Wahan", meaning a vehicle, and so on.
So, her interpretation doesn't help me get it. I know that numerology and lexigramming reveal alot from words of English, but what if the letters from Sanskrit also might have numbers assigned to them? and that it might just be hidden from us yet? or is it that (quite silly of me), that Sanskrit might be the first language spoken on earth, but its script could be in English?

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Originally posted by LEXX:
At the risk of upsetting some folks;
Linda was wrong.
Any language is valid on all counts.
English was not the first or pan language.
English as you have indicated,
is an amalgam of many other earlier languages,
a literal melting pot of other languages.
Drop over to Lexigram Magic sometime.
Linda also made many errors in her Lexigramming attempts, and invalid statements in her rules concerning them.
One example is here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/002034.html

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Some information concerning the first written languages:[quote]
List of languages by first written accounts
See more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_first_written_accounts

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First millennium BC
With the appearance of alphabetic writing in the Early Iron Age,
the number of attested languages increases. With the emergence of
the Brahmic family of scripts, languages of India are attested
from after about 300 BC.[a] The Cypro-Minoan and
Cypriot syllabaries remain undeciphered.

Phoenician - about 1000 BC
Aramaic - c. 950 BC
Hebrew - c. 950 BC: Gezer calendar
Moabite - c. 840 BC: Mesha Stele
Phrygian - c. 800 BC
Ammonite - c. 800 BC: Amman Citadel Inscription
Old North Arabian - c. 800 BC
Old South Arabian - c. 800 BC
Etruscan - c. 700 BC
Umbrian - c. 600 BC
North Picene - c. 600 BC
Lepontic - c. 600 BC
Tartessian - c. 600 BC
Lydian - c. 600 BC[9]
Carian - c. 600 BC[9]
Thracian - c. 6th century BC
Venetic - c. 6th century BC
Old Persian - c. 500 BC: Behistun inscription
Latin - c. 500 BC: Duenos Inscription[15]
South Picene - c. 500 BC
Messapian - c. 500 BC
Gaulish - c. 500 BC
Mixe–Zoque - c. 500 BC: Isthmian script (disputed)
Oscan - c. 400 BC
Iberian - c. 400 BC
Meroitic - c. 300 BC
Faliscan - c. 300 BC
Volscian - c. 275 BC
Middle Indo-Aryan (Prakrit) - c. 260 BC: Edicts of Ashoka[16][17]
Tamil - 3rd century BC: cave inscriptions and potsherds in Tamil Nadu[18]
Galatian - c. 200 BC
Pahlavi - c. 130-170 BC
Celtiberian - c. 100 BC

History Of Writing ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_writing

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Although some people believe Arabic was the first language ever spoken,
Sumerian, Elamitic and Egyptian are contenders for the first written language.
There is no accurate historical record of what language was actually the
first ever spoken. Numerous cultures and religions have repeatedly
put forth claims that their tongue was the original language of humanity,
but none of these postulations have withstood scrutiny. Moreover,
the evolution of language has been a long and slow process,
and what constitutes an actual language,
in distinction from a less advanced form of verbal/gesture communication,
has been the subject of serious debate among linguists. Ultimately,
we shall never know what the earliest occurrence of language was.
We can imagine that language as we know it has existed for
approximately 100,000 years (estimates range from 50,000 to 500,000),
and that the first human language likely arose somewhere in eastern Africa.
One fact is definite: that original language went extinct many millennia ago.

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Written language is our only definite source of information about
linguistic history, and the earliest records of possible "writing"
go back to the Vinča culture of southeastern Europe; these artifacts
date from before 4000 B.C. However, they are not considered to be
first evidence of actual written language; that honor goes to
the Sumerian cuneiform script that was in use in Mesopotamia around 3000 B.C.

More here: ]http://www.encyclopediaofauthentichinduism.org/articles/12_early_civilizations.htm[/ quote] [/b]

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Sumerian language, language isolate and the oldest written language in existence.
First attested about 3100 bc in southern Mesopotamia,
it flourished during the 3rd millennium bc. About 2000 bc,
Sumerian was replaced as a spoken language by Semitic Akkadian
(Assyro-Babylonian) but continued in written usage almost to
the end of the life of the Akkadian language,
around the beginning of the Christian era.
Sumerian never extended much beyond its original boundaries
in southern Mesopotamia; the small number of its native speakers
was entirely out of proportion to the tremendous importance and
influence Sumerian exercised on the development of the Mesopotamian
and other ancient civilizations in all their stages.
More here: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/573229/Sumerian-language

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Originally posted by Icygrace:
I see..... so does this mean numerology is valid for all languages?? Also lexigramming? Does this change anything about our understanding about the relationship between numbers and letters??
Also, I didn't mean to dis respect anyone or anyone's religion ... just questioning everything

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Originally posted by LEXX:
Yes, Lexigramming and Numerology [/b][/i]is totally valid for any language.[/b][/i]
Does it change anything concerning the relationship betwixt letters and numbers?
Yes in that it shows a broader more complete expression of them.
And you have not shown any disrespect at all concerning these topics and or religions.

These may help you:
http://affinitynumerology.com/numerology-tools/non-english-alphabet.php

अंक शास्त्र
aṅka śāstra
Translate "numerology" to Hindi

Google search for:
"Numerology in Hindi"
for example.
Or:
"Numerology in non English languages"

I will try to find other long posts I made about the history and archaology of languages.

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posted June 08, 2014 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
I cannot tell who is right, because i have no knowledge of the language that existed before recorded times (and i believe such times existed),

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
and i so i really cannot argue with the claim that Linda is Anglocentric. I am not an Anglocentric myself,

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
so i don't have any "interest" with the truth being this or that.Thanks for putting your thought.

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posted June 08, 2014 09:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ayelet:
You're very welcome

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posted June 18, 2014 09:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
What are some other words that are conected like these two?

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