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Philbird
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posted October 11, 2004 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
My son is ADHD and it's driving him and me nuts! Went to the shrink and was suggested to put him on Strattera, I don't want to introduce drugs into his life! I'd rather take him out of a school system that doesn't work for him! He will be going back to his father who can't homeschool him and forced into an educationakl system for robots! Remember, regergetate! His father has to work, work, work in order to just support the family. There is no possibility of home schooling him... the child will suffer! He is Kinestetic learner! Not remember and regertate! Even if my friends here can't offer suggestions, My son really needs healing light! For his futere. Can anyone do that?

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pixelpixie
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posted October 11, 2004 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I can do the 'happy thoughts' thing... but not much more than that.
Hold true to how you and he feels about this, the answer will come.
Can you write it down, and determine what the best course of action will be? Even just to define it clearly.. the options available. Send it up to the Universe? Let go and let God/Dess???
Good luck...

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Philbird
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posted October 11, 2004 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Pixelpixie,
I'm sooo sad!
I wanty to take hgim out of school for the year, and let him recoup from all the family stress and educational stress. I would like to take him out of school for the year!
This seems illegal. But I feel he needs a break! From home life and the educational expectations. He has been through hell, his step mom has little patience for the ADHD child and his father expects him to be the ultimate example of what a child should be!

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pixelpixie
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posted October 11, 2004 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

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Wordweaver
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posted October 11, 2004 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wordweaver     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, Philbird.
I'm a social worker in Omaha, NE, and I also happen to have an ADHD son who's now 14. We've been through all the bullsh*t from the time he was three. It's hard to know the right answers, but if you'd like to send me an email (my addy is in my profile), I'll be happy to offer any humble insight that I'm able to.

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Wordweaver
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posted October 11, 2004 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wordweaver     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe it isn't after all . . .
wordweaver@myeweb.com

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Philbird
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posted October 11, 2004 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Wordweaver,
I sent you an E- mail but it was returned!

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Nephthys
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posted October 12, 2004 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird,

There is a book which might help;

"The Indigo Children" by Lee Carroll

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astro junkie
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posted October 12, 2004 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Sending healing light, and may the right answers arrive to all in swift time.

.gloria

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lalalinda
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posted October 12, 2004 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Dearest Philbird,

From one mother to another stick to your guns, I read elsewhere that you refuse to medicate your child and that is too cool.

I was extremely hyper as a child (actually I still am) the doctors prescribed meds that made me extremely depressed (not good for a kid) I would sit under the table and just cry, I was so hurt (pitiful for an Aries) My mother couldn't stand it she said she would rather have me going coocoo for cocopuffs, jumping around and sending company home telling them "go home my mother doesn't have time to visit with you, shes got work to do" (age 4). I love my mom for this and for doing her best to understand and protect me. I didn't outgrow it per se but I did learn to control it at about age 15.

My oldest son was ADHD also and I did medicate him and now wish I hadn't. My initial reason was because the school told me I had to. I was also told that without it I might as well not send him to school because he was so disruptive. I was young and dumb and caved in. I can tell you there is no regret like regret from doing something your gut told you not to do. Medical experts are now finding out that over extended periods of time it damages the liver.(cylert)

There is no greater investment than our children, and we don't get a second chance to raise them, do what your heart tells you now and you'll never regret it. Someday he'll look back and see your sacrifices and really love you for it. Stand by him now and he'll stand by you later. Courage is what you do when your afraid and you do the right thing. Lots and lots of love to your boy.

P.S all states are different, but our children are gaurenteed an education. There has got to be an alternative, maybe on a computer or with a tutor.

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Wordweaver
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posted October 12, 2004 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wordweaver     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird,
I don't know why the email was returned. Try it again later.
I can respect your descision not to medicate, if that's what you really want for your son. My ex-wife and I agonized over meds at the beginning. Thankfully, she's an RN, so we weren't going in totally blind. Plus, I work with kids daily with every "condition" imaginable.
I understand your concerns. My son used to get in trouble in preschool and kindergarten because he was restless; he couldn't sit still for more than a few minutes. He scratched designs into his desk, drew on the walls; you name it. They called him a problem because he bothered the other kids. We went round & round with the school councilers, and finally professional psycologists, and finally agreed to Ritalin. The problem was, the dosage needs to be increased as he ages and becomes used to the meds, and it altered his personality while not helping his school performance.
We ran the gammut of meds, and he's now on Concerta. Also on the honor roll for the past two years, since we started him on this. His personality is his own, he's active in sports, and certainly not a robot.
Of course, medication isn't always the answer. He can learn to control some of his actions and urges, for lack of better terms, himself.
Homeschool, in and of itself, isn't a bad thing. But, what about social interaction? How will he learn to co-exist with his peers if he isn't around them? I'm not judging, just asking. If you do decide to homeschool, I'd strongly suggest he be in some kind of regular community activities. Sports are good because he can use his excess energy in an environment where physical activity is encouraged.
I'd also suggest that you try more than one Dr. Be informative: explain exactly how he acts at different times of the day; his sleep patterns; his attitudes.
Most importantly, don't let him believe that there's anything wrong with him. They sit in on Dr.s appointments, hear their teachers, other parents, and possibly even you talk about their "condition," and the start to believe that they're freaks. They aren't. ADD/ADHD is more common than most people think, and it can be overcome without meds, if that's really what you want. As he grows older, he'll learn to modify his behavior himself to a certain extent.
Remember though, your psycologist really is trying to help. Don't lose patience, or hope.

p.s. Try a sugar-free soda with caffienne. It often has an opposite effect on ADHD people than on normal people. A lot of meds like Ritalin are really stimulants. If you or I took it, we'd be jumping up and down.

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Gia
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posted October 12, 2004 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Philbird,

I'm so sorry to hear Jay's having a tough time. I will continue to pray for you.

It's hard to advise you as I don't believe in medicating ADD. It is not a disease it is a symptom. By the way medication can often cause parkinson like reactions in later years. I did post on it not long ago for Libra. Medication is really not the answer.

To take your child out of school would be worse for him in the long run. It's better to give him encouragement and help him struggle along if he has to. I know it must be very difficult, but Jay needs to understand that sometimes life is not easy and we all have to learn to struggle through problems. It's awfully difficult for a mother to watch and a child to go through I know, but intermixing with other kids is so important at his age and I truly believe isolation would be bad.

AIM has helped a lot of children with this problem. The changes range from simple acts of receptivness, grounding, attention span, improved eye work cordination and more active participation in school. When imbalances are removed, divine potential is opened in each one of these children.

Behaviours are taught and so are coping mechanisims. With extra encouragement and help I'm sure Jay will be fine. Please think about this Philly. To remove him from school would be worse in the long run. It would validate what to him? I really agree with so much of what Wordweaver has to say. I feel for you hon. I really do. Think about AIM and clubs and things to balance out the school stress.

Just keep keep strong and don't give up. Jay is such a little sweetie. Please give him a big kiss from me.

Gia

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Irish Eyes
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posted October 12, 2004 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Irish Eyes     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird-

My son has ADD and we have had him on meds for 3 years. The doctors are to the point that they feel that as little that he is taking it could not be effective.

We have had and contuine to have a lot of emotional upheavel in this family but I have had my son on a strict routine. Up at the same time everyday, eats at the same times everyday and goes to bed at the same time. His life is fun and structured. I have put him in Karate twice a week. Through this he has learned to calm his mind and find the quite within.

This does not work for every child but it has worked for us. If you would like to talk you may e-mail me at srbenter@yahoo.com

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noreenz
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posted October 12, 2004 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for noreenz     Edit/Delete Message
Gia- AIM as in Aol's Instant Messaging?

Well, if so, then great minds think alike as I too suggested it in Health & Healing! lol

And if we're not talking about the same AIM, what would AIM stand for, pardon my ignorance.

Philbird- I started taking Stattera, it helps me focus so I can read. I have absolutely no side effects. When asked how I felt on it, I replied, "Its as though someone had washed my car windows" y'know, the feeling you get, when you exit the car wash, the "awe, I can see again feeling"

If your against meds, how about alternative meds, herbs? Maybe a holistic Dr. could help? For awhile there it seemed like everybody I knew had ADHD kiddos, my sister-in-law has 5! Medication is her best friend, she works at a Hospital, has tried the "no meds" route, but she feels they are necessary for the sake of her children, for their self-esteem and their grades are so much better....bad grades helps lower their self esteem.

In any event, I wish you the best, I know how hard this can be. So frustrating.

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Gia
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posted October 13, 2004 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Noreenz,

No it's got nothing to do with AOL instant messaging. What is that one all about?

This is AIM which stands for - ALL INCLUSIVE METHOD. It is an all inclusive method of taking aim against our imbalances, both in body, mind and energetic matrix. Have you read my posts on the work of Wilhelm Reich? It is new technology based on his work. It is healing that is beyond the amazing. It was started by a doctor called Dr. Stephen Lewis. He wrote a book about his discovery called 'THE SANCTUARY' available at all Borders stores, or on line.

I have written about Stephen and his work on many threads. I have seen many incurable healings take place through Stephens work and have been on his AIM program for years myself. I think I was probably one of the first normal 'non star' people to go on AIM. Many well known stars are on AIM such as:
Jerry Moss - founder of A&M records
Courteney Cox Arquette - actress
Linda Gray - actress
Dr. Wayne Dyer - spiritual teacher
Burt Bacharach - composer

Hundreds more. Loads of physicists, church people of all denomination, spiritual teachers, motivational teachers, my local priest ( after reading all my books ) most of my family, and of course myself. I'm not sick but it keeps my energy, mind and body at peak immune function. I believe it gives me an edge. If I get a cold which is practically unheard of for me, it will never last beyond a few hours. My body knows how to get rid of it. I may get the symptoms and you'd think my gosh she's so sick, but after a few hours it's gone. It really is beyond amazing. One family member was so ridden with arthritis he could hardly walk, now he's running marathons and doing triathalons. He did the iron man last year.
Check it out.

Dr Wayne Dyer had this to say about the AIM.

" In regard to Stephen Lewis, EMC2, and the Aim program. Everything is energy, everything and everyone has a frequency. Those frequencies that are out of balance with our natural harmony can be measured, identified and removed. I know this to be true. I have seen AIM at work. My entire family participates in the AIM program and we have seen wonderful results which are real and transforming. It is true healing, and it is a giant step into the envitable future where each of us is our own personal, transcendental, and totally enlightened healer. I have found that in my higher self, and so can you. It is available now."

Dr. wayne W. Dyer.

Gia

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LibraSparkle
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posted October 13, 2004 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Philly, Kudos to you for not medicating him. I don't understand why in our society it's okay to teach our children to take drugs because they have a problem. Pharmasutical or not... it's not good for children to use drugs.

I don't have any wisdom to share with you, as I don't have much experience with ADHD (aside from my own.. no joke... ).

Our family suspects my nephew to be mildly ADHD. We just accept him as he is... a wonderfully loving little boy who tends to be more sensitive than most. He's a Cancer... he's supposed to be more emotional than most

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astro junkie
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posted October 13, 2004 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
"Santuary" is a cool book ...


I finally found information on the cause Lisa Marie Presley (and others) are activists for :::

"... Over the past two years, Lisa Marie Presley, Juliette Lewis, Kelly Preston and Jenna Elfman have traveled to Washington, D.C., meeting with members of Congress to gather support for the right of parents to refuse psychiatric drug treatment as a requisite of attending school..."

www.cchr.org/press/2004/040229.htm

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Gia
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posted October 13, 2004 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
For all those who want more info on AIM and the work on Stephen Lewis. I have arranged for Stephens assistant Lea to take calls and answer questions.

Her number are: Toll Free: 877 - 924 3533
Not toll free: 415 720 4722
415 925 3577

Lea is a really sweet spiritual person and will always do her best to help. She's a friend who introduced me to Stephen and his work some years back. Give her a call. The are now in the United Kingdom also. However you can participate no matter where you live as it's done through your photograph.

Gia

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