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sinderlou
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posted May 28, 2008 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
We have been dating for a year and a half now and I feel like need an answer from my cancerian boyfriend as far as his seriousness in this relationship is concerned.

I mainly travel to his place. It is 50 miles and is becoming expensive.

I feel like I want to spend the rest of my life with him. he is really cautious.

I don't know what to do. I don't want to date forever. Any advice out there?

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Lara
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posted May 28, 2008 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
don't suffocate him

(unless you are good at crawling under rocks)

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sinderlou
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posted May 28, 2008 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
I am trying not to but I have been feeling insecure lately (maybe its the pisces in me?) I feel like i want answers. He is so cautious. I asked him what he thought about marriage and he said he would want to live with someone for at least 3 or 4 years to be sure. I feel a deep comnection to him and can't imagine my life withiout him but it would go against my beliefs to go on for that much longer without a commitment. This is so frustrating.

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AQUADean
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posted May 28, 2008 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUADean     Edit/Delete Message
Living with someone for 3/4 years before marriage seems pretty sensible to me,marriage is a big commitment and not one to be taken lightly.Whats 3/4 years of the rest of your lives together?,better to be sure than make a mistake.

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posted May 28, 2008 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seveneieghtorange     Edit/Delete Message
You said you can't go on without commitment...are you guys exclusive?
When you say "dating", do you mean dating as in you both are serious? A lot of couples are serious with each other, they see each other exclusively but don't live together. What would you like your Cancerian to do so you will feel as if this is worth of you to keep going?

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sinderlou
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posted May 28, 2008 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
That would be 4 1/2 to 5 1/2 yrs total time to be make sure its right. seems so long to me.

i feel like my wheels would be spinning in the mud for another 4 yrs.

I wonder if i did the right thing by putting my cards on the table and saying i am so certain of my love that i would make a commitment.

it hurts me deeply that he still would want to live together that much longer, it makes me feel like there is something wrong with me.

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Unmoved
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posted May 28, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I think It's long enough. That's just based on my personal experiences though.

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sinderlou
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posted May 28, 2008 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
He wants to live together and try it out foe 3-4 yrs. Right now we have been exclusive to each other. He said he wants an answer from me about living together by this coming september. that will be 2 yrs that we have dated exclusive. He said that if i don't decide to move in with him and see how it goes for 3-4 yrs then he wants to break up. I feel like he would be testing my love for another 3-4 yrs. I am ready for a commitment. I want to feel that kind of security.

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posted May 28, 2008 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
Unmoved,

So 1 1/2 - 2 yrs seems like a reasonable time to know if you are in love and compatible? It is not like we are kids.

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posted May 28, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
That's rubbish. By the cancers I know he'd propose if he wanted to live together instead of wanting to live together for 3 years trial. I don't what this person is up to but I'm close to a lot of cancers and It's because we have one thing in common, i.e. Tradition. Or being old fashioned. But maybe He's new age.

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AQUADean
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posted May 28, 2008 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUADean     Edit/Delete Message
I disagree Unmoved.
I see where he's coming from
After a year and a half,yes that is enough time to know if you both love each other...BUT....loving someone and living with someone are two different animals,i think he needs to see how domesticity affects you both and 3/4 years is an ideal ammount of time to see if any cracks form.
I say be patient and live together for a while.

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Unmoved
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posted May 28, 2008 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
I think one and a half years is very long to know something like this. But maybe something else that causes commitment phobia might be at work. I dunno. But a month is enough for me to know such. But i'm only a Cancer moon, even if it is dignified.

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posted May 28, 2008 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diandra23     Edit/Delete Message
IN one way i know what you mean Sinderlou.

Me and my bf also share almost a 2year relationship.

Wew are long-distance and be keeping more or less seing each ohter every two weeks at 4/5 days in a row.

He is a Cancer AC and one time he said he would very muc like to live together with me,goingo to his place.
I dont feel ready for that so fpr now we are keeping like that - i felt pressured and was almost accepting by fear that he would be breacking up with me.

The thing is:he was the one more afraid to lose me and so,offered me that option and kept pressuring me some times.
Finally,we put our cards in the table and i said what was goin on in my heart - he admitted was being kind of selfish and not thinking about my needs and problems at the moment.

If you feel bad about it - if you feel somehow pressured and hurted by him telling that to you in a manner that you consider controlling-the best is to talk with him.

Cancer are maybe more cautious than Virgos-they fear rejection so much adn they dont wanna show their sensitiveness...my bf also is like that.

The fact that he said want to live togetehr first only shows cautious , not lack of commitment of love by you.

DOes he has a lot of Uranus in his chart?Have important planets in Aqua?
My bf has Aqua Moon-he also dont want to marry soon and says wants to live together first and see how it goes - when he said that to me i felt like you - thatīs why i understand your question very well.

Itīs just a matter of beliefs - marriage vs. living together - both are commitments.

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sinderlou
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posted May 28, 2008 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
You brought NEW AGEelives .............Well he has told me that he believes that the idea of marriage is outdated idea that really means nothing but a financial agreement.

Yea, that might be true but I want to know 1000% that he loves me. I dont' want to live with someone for that long before I have his full commitment.

WHo test drives a car for 5 or 6 yrs?

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posted May 28, 2008 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
I cant help but to be upset but I guess the fact that he is pressuring me to live with him before the end of the year says he loves me. But he also said that he would only consider marriage after 3-4 years of living together.

I am afraid that if i do this that I will end up living with this man and never getting married. After all that time I would be afraid I might feel too attached to leave.

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posted May 28, 2008 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I guess he's not the one for you.

If your beliefs are that you can't go that long without some sort of formal commitment, and his beliefs are different, then you're at an impasse. One of you has to give in to the other's beliefs in order for it to work. If neither of you is willing to compromise, then you should part ways.

There will be other guys who are willing to move a bit faster.

You may never catch this Cancer. (Perhaps it's his lesson to learn not to be so extremely cautious in love.)

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posted May 28, 2008 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
Acoustic

you may be right. we have to compromise to one or the others belief. I have directly said this to him.

He compromises by saying he would consider a formal commmitment in 3-4 yrs. Just consider it after all that time?

I love him, I really do, I am trying to compromise. Is that statement a fair compromise?

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posted May 28, 2008 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Amen to what AG said, but I don't think you want to part ways, do you? I'm not into marriage but I am traditional which means that a commitment is a commitment. Just because I think marriage is stupid doesn't mean I wouldn't get married. As AG said, I would marry as a compromise not because I intrinsically desire it, but because it makes my partner happy and doesn't hurt me. So mr Cancer is being unfair a little. 4 years of a trial is a bit long.

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posted May 28, 2008 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
Sinderlou,

I think you should tell him about this.

It seems like you're ready to get married, but he is not. That's not fair. This will sound very traditional, but if I were you, I'd bring out the woman in me and express all my feelings. Because, this will sound even more traditional, but when a woman waits for a man to be ready to get married, it just doesn't feel right. He should be the one chasing you. Women always feel insecure when they are the chasers themselves. I think women should always be the more powerful side of the couple.

If you like him, start living with him, and wait for a year or 6 months and THEN start pressuring him

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posted May 28, 2008 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
I had started on this thread and came back..But yes if I am ready for a relationship and the other person is not and our stuff is not meshing then its time for me to move on..There is no way I am gonna live with a man for 3,4 years and I have already been with him almost 2 years. Nope not gone happen. Not at this age..I like what AG said made alot of sense to me..Sindelou you already know your gut already tells you what you need...IT will work itself out though..

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posted May 28, 2008 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whalepiscean     Edit/Delete Message
Sinderlou, trust me on this one - BAD IDEA.

2 years is more than enough time to decide if you want to get married to someone. And yes, living with someone is different than being in love, but still. Many newlyweds have problems when they move in together anyway, but they make it work because they are married. So if you move in with him and he sees something he doesn't like, he could easily end it because you don't have a "financial agreement" to keep him..

Or imagine this.. you spend 4 years together and he decides you are not the one for him.. or that he doesn't want to get married. You will have wasted 6 years of your life for nothing, 4 of which you could have met many men who might be willing to take the next step..

And becides, most cancers I know are traditional, like what was already said in this post. I'm a bit wary of this one.

Best of luck to you, and I hope you make the right choice.

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posted May 28, 2008 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
You guys always have such great perspectives. You are so right about the being chased thing. I have Never EVER been the one chasing Any man.

this is such an exception for me. Thats why i think this is real love. I actually really want this guy.

He is very intelligent. I get the feeling he knows just how to pull this little fish along. It is working so far but I have my pride as a woman.

I have laid my heart on the table. I know he wants me around but I just don't want to feel used in any way if this doesn;t work out in all that time.

honestly, I can't see myself ever fully letting go. this one will haunt me if we part and that is why i have let my guard down and totally given myself to him.

but as i said, i have pride and respect for myself as a woman and would live with the pain of losing him than to look at myself in the mirror everyday like and know i was not true to myself.

I just wish he could understand that i just "know" this is right. I have never felt like this before.

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sinderlou
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posted May 28, 2008 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone keeps saying that cancers are traditional.

he has a Cancer sun, a Sag moon and a Cancer Asc. if this helps....

Sadly, I am starting to feel like I cant do the 3-4 yr living together thing. that will mean we will break up in september. this really sucks.

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posted May 28, 2008 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AQUADean     Edit/Delete Message
And yes, living with someone is different than being in love, but still. Many newlyweds have problems when they move in together anyway, but they make it work because they are married.

Call me cynical but i think the marriage statistics say otherwise

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posted May 28, 2008 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
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I think women should always be the more powerful side of the couple.

Disagree wholeheartedly. There has to be a fair amount of balance in my opinion. If one or the other is too powerful in the relationship, then it's not going to be equitable for the other person. I think relationships are supposed to be a partnership.

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Is that statement a fair compromise?

Four years in addition to nearly two years already? No, that's not a compromise. Is his usual decision-making time 12 years long? I mean, if six years is a compromise then what was he initially thinking? I don't know how old you are, but if you're an adult and maybe interested in having a family, then 12 years would take a significant part of your baby-making years away. Even just four years is a big commitment if you are interested in the idea of having kids within the context of marriage.

Worst case: after four years he dumps you, and you have to start the process over again, which probably means a minimum of two years before you're considering marriage again, so in the end he'd have wasted at least six years of your life and possibly more. I'd hate to think about what might happen to your body in that time (once again if you intend to have children). I don't know a lot about fibroids, but they could wreck your chances of having children, right?

I think you should free yourself up for life right now. Tell him you'll marry him in 20 years if you're single and he's found his decisiveness.

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