posted July 18, 2020 03:57 PM            

However your moon is rather well aspected. Moon square Venus is also nothing to worry about LOL. But I might be biased. My Moon basically squares Venus, Jupiter, Neptune and Uranus. Not a single good aspect aside from trining my ascendant. My orb is slightly tighter than yours, at 6 degrees instead of 7. But what Moon square Venus essentially suggests is that what you want is not what you need. Hence it is your duty to align your wants and need/seek a compromise/settle for one and not the other. Not that big of an issue to me PERSONALLY.

It's kinda cool our charts are almost like opposites. I have a lot of trines and conjuncts in my planets as well and my only afflicted planet/the only planet that squares the others is Moon while yours is Sun.

posted July 19, 2020 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Dwhelps:
Hello AQUACap!
I still don’t know how to tell the orbs really well from the charts 🤭
But funny you mention the Uranian qualities. I do think I have quite an unconventional personality/identity... which sometimes throws people off; I do have a need to be different but it’s not something I really admit or recognize unless I really reflect on it.
I am also pretty impulsive at times, I guess that also keys into the “erratic” behavior which surprises people - owing to my Aries sun.
Thanks for pointing that out! I don’t think I would have ever considered myself being a little bit Uranian at all if you hadn’t mentioned it.

So...... you have a Moon square Venus, and you don’t find it troublesome?
Are you a man or woman?
I’m female.
I know that this is usually not good in a man’s chart and can usually mean a guy will have a tendency to cheat in relationships.

For me, although my moon and Venus are square, they are both earth signs. So I think being in the same modality has helped somewhat. I definitely do notice that there’s been a gap between who I’ve been attracted to/who I want vs who I need. My relationship history has shown this. It’s confusing, and a conflict I’m still working on.

How have you been managing it? Sounds like you don’t feel it much?
I don’t really want to settle for one or the other.

What I think it means is that I need to learn how to meet my own needs in a relationship... and not always expect both all my wants and needs to be satisfied in a relationship alone - because it would be impossible for one person to be all that for me.
Sounds like a given, but my chart helped me see that maybe I was perpetually unsatisfied in relationships because of this inner conflict.

I’m curious to see your chart!
You’d pick something? Choosing someone you’re attracted to VS. someone who will meet your needs? I find that’s a very hard and unfair decision to make 🤔😫
I don’t want to compromise either aspect! 😢

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I'm female ) This is my chart: http://imgur.com/1cAB3rL

As you can see my Moon is my only afflicted planet, along with Chiron (asteroid of pain) and the booth of them conjunct exact aspect. I like to think of it as the two of them colluding to bully me lol.

I don't think I feel it as much, there were times where what I want is a really smart guy but what I need is a guy who can dive deep into emotions and go really intense, but at the end of the day, with my Moon SO afflicted, I think I have learned to ignore what I <need> to feel emotionally satisfied and just go after what I want. e.g I have dated very emotionally intense guys which satisfied my Scorpio needs, but disgusts and scares me in the end VS guys who are high achievers who although leaves just a tiny bit of me unfulfilled (unable/refuse to dive as deep and dark into emotions) were my best relationships due to how peaceful it was. With a Moon as afflicted as mine, I have to learn either to suppress my emotions or work with them. When basically anything I need goes against everything I want & the essence of my entire being, it is just much easier to reject completely. It is only when I do work with them, it gets chaotic and I start confusing what I need with what I want, as shown by the <square>.

I think this is where people say a single aspect shouldn't be used to determine characteristics in a person, but should be used in conjunction with others.

The way I work with my Moon should be different from the way you work with yours seeing you have so many pretty aspects. But I guess is due to all those pretty aspects, you feel it so much, making this aspect a lot harder on you... seeing what you need is also a part of you.

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Do you know what type of guys you want and what kind of guys you need?

posted July 19, 2020 02:32 AM            

(Apologies for this comment being off-topic.)

The two of you are females, born and raised in very different cultures. ... But, (when you have the time to do so) check out the synastry between your two natal charts - and explore the davison chart* purpose of this budding/potential long-distance friendship/relationship.

posted July 19, 2020 02:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Dwhelps:
Hi Graham!

Interesting that you should mention that.
AQUA, can you somehow give me your DOB info and I can see our synastry?
I don’t know how to PM on here!

Graham, why do you say Davison chart vs regular composite?
Apologies, I’m still new to this XD

I also don’t see that our charts are opposite or that similar tbh.... only that we both share a Moon square Venus, but in the bigger picture of our chart, they mean quite different things. I also notice AQUA’s got a Pisces Ascendant, and I’ve got a Pisces Mercury
Do you have any insight with my chart in terms of improving my health?

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Davison refers to the 'purpose' of the relationship while composite is more of how we 'work' together. Synastry is more of how we 'interact' with each other IMO. Contrarily, I thought our chart was rather similar like what Graham said haha. Funny you mentioned having a Pisces Mercury, since my Mercury is considered unaspected.

My DOB is 31/01/1997, 8:42AM GMT+8

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Graham, why do you say Davison chart vs regular composite?
Apologies, I’m still new to this XD

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I also don’t see that our charts are opposite or that similar tbh.... only that we both share a Moon square Venus, but in the bigger picture of our chart, they mean quite different things. I also notice AQUA’s got a Pisces Ascendant, and I’ve got a Pisces Mercury

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posted July 19, 2020 03:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Graham:
Hi Dwhelps and AQUA.

(Apologies for this comment being off-topic.)

The two of you are females, born and raised in very different cultures. ... But, (when you have the time to do so) check out the synastry between your two natal charts - and explore the davison chart* purpose of this budding/potential long-distance friendship/relationship.

[ * Note the two learning triangles (Uranus-Saturn-Moon + Jupiter-Mars-Pluto), and their connection by the Moon-Jupiter semi-novile aspect.]

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What is a learning triangle? Does it mean the same as 'talent' triangle?

posted July 19, 2020 03:14 AM            

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[b]My DOB is 31/01/1997, 8:42AM GMT+8

What about yours? I am interested too!

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posted July 19, 2020 03:30 AM            

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Originally posted by AQUACap88:
What is a learning triangle? Does it mean the same as 'talent' triangle?

And it is good to see you again 😬

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Learning triangles consist of one red + green + blue aspect ... and their energy flow starts at the red planet, moves down the green line (to the green planet) and then down the blue line (to the blue planet). ... Problem manifests (red) -> resolution sought (green) -> resolution tested (blue) -> problem manifests again (red), if resolution not correct ... and the cycle continues until the correct resolution is found.

If the red->green->blue flow is anti-clockwise, resolution will be found sooner than if it flows clockwise.

posted July 19, 2020 05:51 AM            

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The Davison Chart: http://imgur.com/a/wF2VLN0

Thoughts?

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And ... in this case, it matters ... because the intercepted signs and duplicated houses are different in the two charts.

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I don't really see green lines... Are there any learning triangles?

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I notice our Vertex - South Node conjunction though.... hmmm...

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However, the born-again chart created at the time of the final pass of transit Saturn to natal Saturn lasts until the next Saturn return (some 30 years later). ... So, one becomes a 'new person" - with a new Saturn path (to be followed for the next 30 years).

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What I've been dealing with is mental health issues as a result of trauma. Mainly general anxiety and panic attacks, which can be incredibly debilitating.
But I've also dealt with a myriad of other physical health problems in my life. Asthma, allergies, acute liver infection, vertigo. My major concern right now is the panic attacks, and getting my life back. Not romantic relationships.

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posted July 19, 2020 12:56 PM            

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What is the born-again chart.... and would that be significant? How do I look that up, and will it be helpful?

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Think of the born-again chart as being the direction that the Soul intended your life to go during the second Saturn cycle.

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I am also noticing that I have a Learning Triangle in my own natal chart...with the Sun.

I'm staring at it, trying to figure out how the Pluto in Scorpio 2nd house can be part of the solution to my Sun. Hmmm.

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posted July 19, 2020 03:23 PM            

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[QUOTE][b]What is the born-again chart.... and would that be significant? How do I look that up, and will it be helpful?

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Think of the born-again chart as being the direction that the Soul intended your life to go during the second Saturn cycle.

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I am also noticing that I have a Learning Triangle in my own natal chart...with the Sun.

I'm staring at it, trying to figure out how the Pluto in Scorpio 2nd house can be part of the solution to my Sun. Hmmm.

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You also have a NN-Chiron-Mars Learning Triangle. [/B][/QUOTE]

posted July 19, 2020 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Dwhelps:
Wow. Astrology never ceases to amaze me. Whenever I think I know a lot, I find out so many more new things I never knew about.

The 'learning triangles' for one.

Here is the uncorrected Davison, and sure enough 2 green lines show right where you mentioned. http://imgur.com/a/UzmtfNu

Thank you so much for your knowledge, Graham!

I am now intrigued by these 'learning triangles'. It is the first I have ever heard of them. I can't seem to find anything much about them thru Google.
I am also noticing that I have one in my own natal chart...with the Sun.

I'm staring at it, trying to figure out how the Pluto in Scorpio 2nd house can be part of the solution to my Sun. Hmmm.

I've heard a lot of great things about having a Grand trine in one's chart. But truthfully, even though I have one, my life has been wrought with lots of difficulties so far. I haven't been able to "use" it so to speak. Those few red lines have been a source of a lot of tension in my life. (Moon-Nessus, Afflicted Sun and Sun on the Desc, Moon-Venus relationships).

I'm seeing the Jupiter-Mars-Pluto between AQUA and I as clockwise, and the Moon-Uranus-Saturn learning triangle as counter-clockwise.
But I don't know if I really know what this all means...? Sun in Virgo 3rd... communication, which is what we're doing. Leo in 2nd house body? Hmmm....

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posted July 19, 2020 10:52 PM            

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To add,
My last relationship which coincided with my Saturn return, also hurt me in a religious/spiritual sense - he was also deeply "religious" and was abusive to me in that sense, and in other ways. He set off my anxiety/panic attacks that I've been dealing with since.
He's also the reason I got into astrology. Our relationship felt deeply karmic and when I finally drew up our synastry chart, I was surprised at all the connections. His North Node is conjunct my Vertex. Our ASC-DSC are exactly flipped, almost like a you complete me arrangement. His Moon is conjunct my Asc. We have a nice synastry, but our composite is not good.

I've been meeting people with some sort of connection to my Vertex ever since!
So regarding AQUA, I don't think our charts are that bad together. I was surprised to see a Vertex connection again - but not really, because EVERYONE I've been meeting since my Saturn Return seems to touch on my vertex. It's uncanny.

I don't only see squares and oppositions?
But I tended to look at the synastry.....and it doesn't look half bad. I have a harder time understanding how to interpret the Davison... hmm..

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I am also 9 years younger than you so I feel kind of pained that you have such painful relationships. I don't know why but my Moon square Venus never played out the way yours did. At least not in a way that I find detrimental to myself. This makes me feel a little guilty for being unable to share your pain.

I find our Davison very bad because I tend to want to ignore most orbs larger than 6 which effectively eliminates most of the trines. I base the orbs by the numbers you see right next to the conjunct/square/trine/opposition symbols.

If you don't mind my age, I wouldn't mind being friends with you. I apologise for the way I chatted earlier, I thought you were just slightly older than me and I wasn't expecting this to be such a serious thread. I'm really sorry.

posted July 19, 2020 11:02 PM            

Because I don't exactly know how to see the aspects from just the natal chart wheel so I rely on tables. If possible, please put in Dejanira, Nessus and Ceres as well.

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How do I help her?

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