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Topic: Have you always found synastry to be true?
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RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 5907 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 08:58 AM
I rarely ever have. It seems like the people who I argue with the most are the ones who have stuck by (and our synastry and composites indicate it would be a rough ride) and the ones who I felt nice feelings for have gone (synastry and composite also showed good things)I usually base the summary of the relationship on number 1 Grupovenus.com's report (the synastry one, not the composite) and number 2, Astrograph.com's synastry report. They both give good summaries I have found to apply for me. It seems the other person is drawn to me for a little bit, but then walks away. Like this guy I just met and my best friend in elementary school who have the same birthdate. October 14, 1988 grupovenus.com says Since we have venus mutually aspecting pluto in synastry (venus square pluto and venus sextile pluto) that the we would both feel an intense bond that would make us go crazy bc of the feelings and jealousy it arose in us. And my best friend in elementary stopped talking to me the last few months of fifth grade, while this guy really seemed to appreciate me since he would always shout my name enthusiastically every time he saw me, would always crack up at my jokes, and texted me a few times and called me when we had known each other for only a week. But he didn't reply to my text two times so far after texting for a little while. And i hate people who do that, so I'm currently ignoring him until he initiates contact again, which I have a feeling isnt going to happen. I guess I feel pretty frustrated when synastry/composite says really amazing things, and I do feel them but the other person doesn't, which is usually the case. It seems they do for a while, but then something drives us apart. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 5907 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 09:00 AM
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Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1235 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 09:18 AM
I think it depends on your own chart (and that of the other, too). If you have a lot of squares you'll be able to deal with arguments or with being challenged. I imagine that someone with a lot of trines would have a harder time with that (I could be wrong, I only have experience with opposites and conjuncts myself, and a few squares).So, in theory, I think you should not only look at the aspects in synastry, but also what aspects are in your chart and what aspects are in their charts. If you have a lot of squares you'll feel at home in a relationship which challenges you, but will the other be? In my personal experience I seem to be most attracted to people with whom in synastry I have a lot of challenging aspects, but seem to get on best with those I have a lot of conjuncts with, and a few oppositions thrown in the mix. That explains my fatal attraction to Sagittarius suns, for one Anyway, I have also noticed that those people I never seem to get on with, or feel absolutely nothing for, not even the slightest interest, are people who have harmonious aspects with my chart in syanstry. Also the more opposites there are, the harder I find it to keep getting on with those people and if there are more squares than there generally are in my own chart, I find it too challenging for me as well. All those personal experiences I've had have lead me to believe that the own chart has a bearing on how we experience the synastry between us and someone else.
I could be wrong, or subjective in some way, of course, because the experience I have personally is only limited and it never really occured to me to apply this theory to other people's synastry If it is true, I'll have to look for a man who has a lot of conjunctions, a few oppositions, no trines, no sextiles and only one square, and whose chart gives the same amount of same natured aspects in synastry. What would be the chance of that ever happening? Well, I could go looking for a man who is born around the same time that I was ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 7059 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 04, 2011 09:28 AM
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Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 626 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 04, 2011 09:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: I rarely ever have. It seems like the people who I argue with the most are the ones who have stuck by (and our synastry and composites indicate it would be a rough ride) and the ones who I felt nice feelings for have gone (synastry and composite also showed good things)I usually base the summary of the relationship on number 1 Grupovenus.com's report (the synastry one, not the composite) and number 2, Astrograph.com's synastry report. They both give good summaries I have found to apply for me. It seems the other person is drawn to me for a little bit, but then walks away. Like this guy I just met and my best friend in elementary school who have the same birthdate. October 14, 1988 grupovenus.com says Since we have venus mutually aspecting pluto in synastry (venus square pluto and venus sextile pluto) that the we would both feel an intense bond that would make us go crazy bc of the feelings and jealousy it arose in us. And my best friend in elementary stopped talking to me the last few months of fifth grade, while this guy really seemed to appreciate me since he would always shout my name enthusiastically every time he saw me, would always crack up at my jokes, and texted me a few times and called me when we had known each other for only a week. But he didn't reply to my text two times so far after texting for a little while. And i hate people who do that, so I'm currently ignoring him until he initiates contact again, which I have a feeling isnt going to happen. I guess I feel pretty frustrated when synastry/composite says really amazing things, and I do feel them but the other person doesn't, which is usually the case. It seems they do for a while, but then something drives us apart.
I don't know so much about synastry being "true" from the point of view of it being able to predict the outcome of a relationship; to me it is more descriptive of the kind of energy you experience with the other person and the potential issues that will come up during the period of time you are associated with them - obviously the longer you know them the more it will unfold. But ... as far as the "stickability" factor is concerned, the only reliable indicator I personally have found so far is if the parties have important mirrored aspects (see my post yesterday), especially between sun and moon. So I would say, look out especially for those people who have the more or less the same aspect between their sun and moon as you do. They might be around for a long time as they resonate strongly with the way that your own energy resonates.
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Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1329 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted July 04, 2011 09:49 AM
I think it just depends on how the synastry is done. Just like Gauquelin's "Mars Effect", there have been experiments with synastry that seem to yield scientific results. Here is a link to an article about one of these experiments: http://astrologynewsservice.com/articles/unique-study-links-venus-to-romantic-choices-people-make/ I'm sure there are people who would disagree, though I believe we are just scratching the surface of modern astrology. Like any branch of science, astrology is meant to be tested, messed around with, and improved. =) IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1235 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 09:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: of topic but has anyone ever met someone with bad history like they were cheated on or pushed away and you say you're not like that or you probably are not like that and you let them in your life but find yourself acting the same way as the other people even if, like i said, you're not like that? i've always thought that was natal chart related but i can't quite put my finger on it as i'm not very versed in synastry/astro. i'm sure people can change that if they try. i mean something they do must be triggering the reaction. i dunno. it's much better than saying i'm always being thised and that.
Funny you should say that. It was the one thing where I figured I'd give my ex a shot, when I told him of my history with an abusive man and he specifically told me he would never do that to me. A few months on he actually started to physically abuse me himself (which eventually went down into mental abuse, but abuse is abuse and it had the same effect on me). He never realized he turned into the same thing what made me break up with the man I told him about. Something now tells me that I shouldn't have told him about it to begin with... The funny thing was that my Pluto and their Asc/Dsc axis were conjunct. In both cases. While the first abusive partner had Taurus rising, the last one had Scorpio rising but both closely in aspect with my Scorpio Pluto. So that kind of makes me believe that there is something to synastry, even IF I never seem to get on with or care less about people who have harmonious synastry with me. ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 2066 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 09:56 AM
I find my synastry reports to be acurate. I use cafeastrology.I looked at my last relationship and it talked about how we would have the same taste in music and such. (I also learned in psych class that is part of how an actraction can start is having some similar interests) And we did. But then it also showed how if we lived together, it would be destructive. FIGHTS, DRAMA...Him breaking his stuff if he didn't get his way. He didn't really do that til I moved in with him. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 7059 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 04, 2011 10:48 AM
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Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1235 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 11:17 AM
Well, it was my Pluto involved and I was the one being controlled so I think the Asc/Dsc axis has more ability to control than Pluto does That being said, my cousin has the same thing. She's a Leo Sun, Aries Moon, Scorpio rising conjunct Pluto. But you couldn't meet a kinder, gentler person than her if you ask me. I do think that it could have made a difference if I hadn't told him, although it's probably a combination of that synastric aspect with the fact that I told him. I have always honestly told any boyfriend I was with between that abusive partner and my latest ex. I just think that people need to know such things because it does explain some behaviour that I have, including being infuriated when I see someone "dominating" their partner, especially in public. Other people would know better than to get in between those kind of people, but I would just head on in and probably pounce on the dominating partner if there was no one around to stop me.
But, when you say something like that to someone who has the latent ability to act the same, you kind of give him a green light. It's as if you're saying "don't worry, they've done it to me before so I'm sure I deserve it." Interestingly, none of my other partners who knew about the first abuser, have ever as much as hurt me physically or tried to break my spirit in any other way, it only seems to happen with people whose Asc aspect my Pluto. Not sure about squares though. I've never been with an Aquarius rising to my knowledge and the Leo risings I have been with, didn't have it square my Pluto... Well, one had it in a wide orb - 8 degrees Leo - but he never laid a hand on me. Or broke my spirit. He was actually quite supportive at times in that respect. Interesting fact: that man did have an ex girlfriend who was mentally unstable (according to him) and at times, abused him physically as well. But the ones who had Asc conjunct/opposite my Pluto had it in a very tight orb, at least within 2 degrees if not less. ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
carl Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: My soul is all over the world! (aka vagabond) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 12:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i use this. used to have a friends and work option but now it's only lovers so kinda useless on me for now. no time/ place of birth so not as accurate as actual synastry. also entered my own birthday by mistake and got a high rating. i mostly only want a thumb up or thumb down kinda rating so iz enough for me. http://moonit.com/
I tried that. What is considered a "good" score?I tried two exs and got a 70 and 79, which seem average. But the descriptions told otherwise and made both seem really good.
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sand Knowflake Posts: 7059 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 04, 2011 03:40 PM
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carl Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: My soul is all over the world! (aka vagabond) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 03:46 PM
Yah for me I just use two really serious relationships to test synastry. The others were not that useful at all in my overall development (I had one "semi serious" since it was my 1st and two other relationships of limited overall impact).IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 591 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 06:11 PM
i find synastry to be accurate. sometimes i have problem when i dont understand certain aspects. for instance contradictory interpretations about saturn conjunct NN. but the ones that tends to have agreemnet, i experience the way it says. for instance mmon square saturn, square venus, etc.for predicting the outcome of a relationship it is recommended the composite. it tells more about the relationshio as an entity. sometimes the synastry is good (as potential)a but the composite is not good. look at the composite when you want to look at the purpose of you coming together, or the result of it. the sun, normally indicate the purpose. in my experience, it has been accurate in predicting it. when the purpose is not fullfilled the union disspeared. IP: Logged |
Benedict Moon* Knowflake Posts: 2791 From: Avendesora Registered: May 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 06:19 PM
I agree with Aya that the natal promise counts more and tells you how the actual synastry will work out. If you have squares in your chart, then naturally you'll prefer challenges over 'niceties'. IP: Logged |
Aya_and_baby Knowflake Posts: 1235 From: Space (and sometimes Antwerp) Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 04, 2011 06:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: ^think that's a good score. i get 70 also with my 1st ex. just 50's with the others that i admit didn't feel right. the situations aren't always accurate of course but it's a good feel IMO nuff for me. doing astro synastry on every date is kinda a hassle plus i dunno that much. i think they go by moon signs or your strongest aspect with each other.
I got 87 for my last ex. Now it was the longest relationship I had in all fairness, but I was hardly happy throughout it. So I don't think the percentage is relative to the actual feelings. The synastry had a lot of opposites, a few squares and quite a lot of trines and inconjuncts. Only few conjuncts in comparison. Now HE has a lot of trines, opposites and inconjuncts and only few trines. I have mostly conjuncts, two opposites (three if you count the Asc) and one square (two if you count Venus to Mc). Big difference, no? And yeah, I was the only unhappy one, he thought we were working great together which is probably why he didn't want to let me go. Good example of what I said about own natal charts playing a part in the synastry Funny though... the affair I had most recently, seems to have more aspects in common with our synastry than I have, and I felt the most confident that our "relationship" had potential. Or synastry had less aspects than his natal chart though, and few aspects is what my chart does WELL ------------------ [Insert catchy signature here.] IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38089 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 06:40 PM
I would day Always ------------------ Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality Jung I am my Beloved's.My Beloved is mine. Song of Solomon He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city Proverbs IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1930 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 08:18 PM
I find synastry to be correct when I'm not reading cookbook reports from websites. You have to get a reading from a live human being. Charts are so complex that a bad aspect may cancel out a great one and vice versa.Plus if you want to find out how long a relationship is going to last, check your progressed charts for the placements of the Sun, Venus and Mars (for romantic relationships). Synastry doesn't always do that. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 5907 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 10:41 PM
Thanks to all of you guys. You have all been very helpful. I didn't know about that website, moonit.com and I always love finding out about new astrology sites, so thanks a lot for that, too.Thanks, again. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 5907 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 04, 2011 11:29 PM
Just finished trying out the reports on moonit.com That's actually a very good site. I found it very accurate. Thank you! I'm a little confused, though, because it says that my crush and I are 71% compatible in love and then only 20% compatible in friendship.Also, is there any way to get more credits that doesn't ask for my credit card? :/ lol IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 7059 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted July 05, 2011 03:45 AM
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allouette Knowflake Posts: 90 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 05, 2011 05:31 AM
wow, on moonit I got 97% with my love, awesome IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 4457 From: Surfing Kite. Seriously. Registered: Aug 2010
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posted July 05, 2011 05:32 AM
Yes,true,but,in my experiences,many relationships were practically explained by one or two aspects.IP: Logged |
Delilah Knowflake Posts: 684 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 05, 2011 08:10 AM
If I remember correctly, Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward had one or two aspects in synastry that a lot of astrology sites say would tear a couple apart. The natal charts definitely effect synastry. I did a mini chart for Ralph Fiennes and his ex (can't remember her name). They had Mars in good aspect to Saturn, which is supposed mean the couple will be faithful to each other. Well, Ralph has a natal aspect that would make him unfaithful in all relationships. He cheated on his ex, all of them actually. I think synastry shows what we can have, but the natal chart usually has the last word. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 5907 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 05, 2011 01:03 PM
Well, so far...it seems to be pretty spot on except for one which i did. It says 90% compatible, and though the positives it says are true and we WERE close for a while, she thought I was overbearing in the end and it doesnt mention that at all.IP: Logged |