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Topic: Where Is Your Sorrow?
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 09:52 AM
  
What sign is on your 12th house cusp? In which house is the planet ruling that sign?
This will show the sphere in life in which you will have sorrow/things feeling like they are full of pain and not working, I have Libra on the 12th house cusp and Venus in the 7th.My longest relationship has hurt badly so there you go  ------------------
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love being Aries
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posted May 22, 2011 09:54 AM
i have leo on cusp 12th house, sun in 8th?what is my sorrow? 8th house always confuses me anyways  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 10:00 AM
OK Your sorrow would be in 8th house matters.
Do you feel you have shut down parts of yourself i.e. repression?
Do you feel like you are not really you, that you are someone who is on the surface while the real you lies beneath the surface.
The 8th house is the house of repression i.e.pushing down your deepest self due to trauma or just delayed development.
The lesson of the 8th house is to "Be oneself" with all the deepest parts integrated.
See my Jung quote.That would sum up the 8th house lessons.
Does this fit?? Please say yea or nay ------------------
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 10:02 AM
Please--if you could--everyone---respond back so I know if I was right on or not. Thank you
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Aya_and_baby
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posted May 22, 2011 10:10 AM
My 12th house is in Scorpio. Pluto is in the 11th house.Friends or social groups never brought me sorrow, though... ------------------
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MertSerimer
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posted May 22, 2011 10:10 AM
Aquarious on cusp 12
Uranus in 11
getting quincunx from Mars
Getting bi-quintile from Jupiter
Sextiles ascendant
Conjuncts Neptune
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
My 12th house is in Scorpio. Pluto is in the 11th house.Friends or social groups never brought me sorrow, though...
Hmmm Interesting
What would this mean,then? So,have you been betrayed by friends? The 11th could be hope and dreams,I suppose,too.
What do you think,Aya? How could you relate 11th house areas to sorrow in your life? ------------------
"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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posted May 22, 2011 10:16 AM
Dear Mert
I am not gonna do aspects now. I will do that,later,after I study the books more ------------------
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MertSerimer
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From: where the fun is
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posted May 22, 2011 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Dear Mert
I am not gonna do aspects now. I will do that,later,after I study the books more
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Aya_and_baby
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posted May 22, 2011 10:24 AM
It could relate to hopes and dreams, too. I have often been disappointed in that area...On the other hand, I'm also quite disappointed in, and cynical of, the human population in general. That has caused me quite a bit of sorrow because I always think the best of people and often get betrayed by their often selfish reactions. Out of my friends in general, none have really ever betrayed me. Some haven't listened to my advice no matter what I said, but then I ended the friendship because I don't want friends who don't at least give my advice a chance, especially when they come back afterwards to apologize for not listening and tell me I was actually right. It is annoying when that happens, but it doesn't cause me much sorrow. It causes me stress that I can do without, and that's why I tend to end such "friendships". ------------------
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Saraintheski
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posted May 22, 2011 12:20 PM
My saturn in aquarius this sucks for me it makes me all over the place I don't have any organization of clue of what i'll be doing plus it squares my mars in scorpio I think so it slows down anything I ever try to do .. IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 12:22 PM
12th cusp in Taurus...venus in the 8th------------------
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amowls**
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posted May 22, 2011 12:25 PM
Everyone feels like relationships bring them sorrow.I really hope this theory isn't true because Taurus is the cusp of my 12th and Venus is in my 10th. I don't want my entire public persona/career to bring me sorrow lol. IP: Logged |
ecomat
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From: Budapest, Hungary
Registered: Feb 2011
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posted May 22, 2011 12:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
My 12th house is in Scorpio. Pluto is in the 11th house.Friends or social groups never brought me sorrow, though...
wow, i'm the same  IP: Logged |
starcrossedleo
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posted May 22, 2011 12:30 PM
Taurus on 12th venus in 4th and to some dgree home life has brought me sorrow. I always thought too that it was relationships.IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted May 22, 2011 12:31 PM
Libra on the 12th house cusp and Pluto in Scorpio.
Venus is in 10th. I think this is bad.IP: Logged |
northernlad
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posted May 22, 2011 12:52 PM
12th house cusp is at the end of scorpio, and pluto is at the beginning of scorpio at the end of the 10th house.I have sorrow at work? (Being unemployed since september has caused me a great deal of sorrow, i can tell you that much.) IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 01:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Aya_and_baby:
It could relate to hopes and dreams, too. I have often been disappointed in that area...On the other hand, I'm also quite disappointed in, and cynical of, the human population in general. That has caused me quite a bit of sorrow because I always think the best of people and often get betrayed by their often selfish reactions. Out of my friends in general, none have really ever betrayed me. Some haven't listened to my advice no matter what I said, but then I ended the friendship because I don't want friends who don't at least give my advice a chance, especially when they come back afterwards to apologize for not listening and tell me I was actually right. It is annoying when that happens, but it doesn't cause me much sorrow. It causes me stress that I can do without, and that's why I tend to end such "friendships".
Ok Aya your sorrow about humanity could be reflected here.It does seem like you have sorrow with friends ,too,as you talk about dissapointment and then ending the friendship.
Am I right? ------------------
"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by Saraintheski:
My saturn in aquarius this sucks for me it makes me all over the place I don't have any organization of clue of what i'll be doing plus it squares my mars in scorpio I think so it slows down anything I ever try to do ..
What is on your 7th house cusp? Which house is that house ruler in? ------------------
"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
12th cusp in Taurus...venus in the 8th
OK Nick
Yours would be the same as the first one I did,Can you relate? ------------------
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by amowls**:
Everyone feels like relationships bring them sorrow.I really hope this theory isn't true because Taurus is the cusp of my 12th and Venus is in my 10th. I don't want my entire public persona/career to bring me sorrow lol.
OK Amwols
Your sorrow would be in career/upward mobility in society.
You may be thwarted in these areas.As you try to climb higher is social /career status you may be stymied.
Do you feel this at all,now?
Everyone ,keep in mind we all have a 12th house cusp and a planet somewhere ------------------
"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted May 22, 2011 01:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by starcrossedleo:
Taurus on 12th venus in 4th and to some dgree home life has brought me sorrow. I always thought too that it was relationships.
OK Yes home life will bring you sorrow.Perhaps,it will be your father who is represented by the 4th house.
Perhaps, it will be home issues ,in general,such as not having your own home or struggling to keep a home.
Can you relate to any of this? ------------------
"Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
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BeeCalliope
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posted May 22, 2011 01:09 PM
Cancer rules my 12th, capricorn moon in the 6th. I have a lot of deeply internalized rules for my own and others behavior. I noted in another thread that I have always been told I have a great deal of integrity but this integrity is very rigid and can be isolating.edit: I also have a very rigid diet. Anything that influences the physical body can become emotional and vice-versa. Psychosomatic illness and what not, I'm very sensitive to my environment. Emotions that are unconscious can wreak havoc and easily disrupt the most basic elements of my life. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 22, 2011 01:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
Libra on the 12th house cusp and Pluto in Scorpio.
Venus is in 10th. I think this is bad.
OK Rosalind
Yours would be the same as Amwols.What do you think?------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 22, 2011 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by BeeCalliope:
Cancer rules my 12th, iced over capricorn moon in the 6th. I have a lot of deeply internalized rules for my own and others behavior. I noted in another thread that I have always been told I have a great deal of integrity but this integrity is very rigid and can be isolating.
Actually Bee my book says this is one of the better placements.
You will bring your depth and spirituality to the workplace.
You will bring lots of hidden things out in a way that you can bring them out in the open in a positive way.
Way to go ------------------
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