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Topic: Extreme hatred of lying
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sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 15, 2013 11:28 PM
Who else here can't handle when people lie? When they betray your trust even with small lies?I ended another friendship today based off the person being dishonest because she was a people pleaser. I cannot stand it when people lie and thus betray my trust in them and turn up false, an image of what I thought they were. Is this strictly a Scorpio thing? (I have Scorp planets.) Or is it more? I'd like to share experiences with those who also become infuriated and deeply hurt over lying. IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 15, 2013 11:41 PM
I feel the same.All my "kind of ex" ever did was lie.It's was so frustrating. The only Scorpio placements I have are my MC and Pluto.Maybe it's all the Saturn. IP: Logged |
Regulus18 Knowflake Posts: 35 From: Washington, D.C. Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 15, 2013 11:42 PM
Well wake up honey. I'm a Cancer Sun, Gemini Moon and Gemini Venus...and let me tell you, EVERYBODY lies for one reason or another. If you're turned off by lying you may find yourself on the outs in this world. I'm not saying I love liars but there's a story behind every lie. Perhaps getting to the root of why people lie will help you understand the people who do.IP: Logged |
Regulus18 Knowflake Posts: 35 From: Washington, D.C. Registered: Jun 2013
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posted July 15, 2013 11:46 PM
My mars is in the eighth house...and I am a member of the Pluto in Scorpio generation. The 10th-20th degree class. Those are my Scorpio placements.IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 2132 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 15, 2013 11:56 PM
Virgo!I have an extreme lack of understanding for people who have such issues with lying. It seems extremely strange to me - and I have prominent Pisces... So, I'm guessing the opposite sign - Virgo.. could have such problems with lying. "Truth is, everyone lies all the time": http://theconversation.com/truth-is-everyone-lies-all-the-time-6749
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 2132 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 15, 2013 11:56 PM
quote: Well wake up honey
Good Advice. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 4223 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 12:05 AM
I hate pathological liars. I think it's my Mercury-Saturn exact aspect, lol. Mercury, Saturn and Sun have a lot of aspects in my chart. I think Mercury is the most aspected following Saturn.IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Knowflake Posts: 4223 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 12:06 AM
Lol, it could very well be a Virgo thing quote: Originally posted by Odette: Virgo!I have an extreme lack of understanding for people who have such issues with lying. It seems extremely strange to me - and I have prominent Pisces... So, I'm guessing the opposite sign - Virgo.. could have such problems with lying. "Truth is, everyone lies all the time": http://theconversation.com/truth-is-everyone-lies-all-the-time-6749
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 2132 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 12:29 AM
Past thread on lying: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212620.html My nick was Betty Boop IP: Logged |
Gemmy Knowflake Posts: 469 From: Registered: Oct 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 12:53 AM
Yeah,everyone lies.I just don't understand people that do it compulsively.That's what I had to deal with.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 4774 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 16, 2013 02:05 AM
*raises hand*I don't like it when people lie and I don't like it when I lie. Might actually be the Virgo. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 2976 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 02:15 AM
Everyone lies but not everyone has a reason to lie.If someone I don't know that well asks me something about my private life or anything that I deem is private I will lie without feeling bad about it.Because I'm protecting my privacy. If I've asked someone something that they deem is not an info they should partake with me,I instinctly understand it and view the lie for what it is. I don't hate the person for not wanting to share something with me,it would be highly ridiculous on my part.The above applies for people ( colleagues/acquaintances/friends) I interact on a daily or less basis. When someone wants to be closer to me and I feel they are lying. I don't hate them,neither do I hate their propensity to lie unless they give me reason to believe they are pathological liars. But I would definitely let them know they need to back off. Now if someone who is already close to me lies. I take serious offense,that could easily turn sour if they continue to lie. I have an inbuilt infaillible lie detector. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 08:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: *raises hand*I don't like it when people lie and I don't like it when I lie. Might actually be the Virgo.
Good point! You may be right. I feel like my Virgo Moon is probably also to blame... I think the transiting Moon is in Virgo right now so maybe that's also causing me to be sensitive to lying and deception?? IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 08:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemmy: I feel the same.All my "kind of ex" ever did was lie.It's was so frustrating. The only Scorpio placements I have are my MC and Pluto.Maybe it's all the Saturn.
So frustrating. I'm sorry that happened to you. It could be Saturn possibly making you like order, practicality, realistic attitudes. I'm also Saturnine and I'm that way so I hate BS, surprises and sudden unpredictable attitudes - and lying kind of falls underneath that to me. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 08:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Regulus18: Well wake up honey. I'm a Cancer Sun, Gemini Moon and Gemini Venus...and let me tell you, EVERYBODY lies for one reason or another. If you're turned off by lying you may find yourself on the outs in this world. I'm not saying I love liars but there's a story behind every lie. Perhaps getting to the root of why people lie will help you understand the people who do.
It's not that I can't tolerate little lies sometimes. I understand that individuals feel the need to lie about dumb stuff sometimes in order to protect themselves [i.e., denying you like Twilight since a lot of people hate it and make fun of it] but trivial stuff like that isn't a huge bother to me. I can accept little lies. It's just shadiness - hiding true intent about plans, lying about where you are going, lying about feelings, etc. that infuriates me. I'm guessing now it is from the Scorp, Virgo and Saturn mix. I know why people lie. But it doesn't make me any less ****** off. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 4774 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted July 16, 2013 08:27 PM
tMoon is in Scorpio, actually. That probably heightens your emotional side.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 16, 2013 08:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by EmpressMendez: I hate pathological liars. I think it's my Mercury-Saturn exact aspect, lol. Mercury, Saturn and Sun have a lot of aspects in my chart. I think Mercury is the most aspected following Saturn.
Good point. I'm a Merc-Saturn person. I feel it could be Saturn as well. We want it straight up, the facts, no BS. And that's kinda Plutonian to me as well [which I am]. So I like have it double...haha. IP: Logged |
enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 676 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 17, 2013 12:58 AM
quote: It's not that I can't tolerate little lies sometimes... It's just shadiness - hiding true intent about plans, lying about where you are going, lying about feelings, etc. that infuriates me. I'm guessing now it is from the Scorp, Virgo and Saturn mix.
That's the way I am too. Lying about stupid superficial crap doesn't bother me too much. I don't need to know everyone's deepest darkest secrets. Lying simply just to lie about anything and everything bugs the hell out of me. Mostly I get upset with it when telling the truth would simply have created less complication and problems for everyone involved. I don't respect people who feel the need to lie to cover up infidelity either. If you're not happy in a relationship, take responsibility for your actions and own up and stop wasting everyone's time. The thing is, I realize this is tendency about myself, so I tend to hang out with people who are more up front about themselves. Saves me a lot of grief in the long run since I just don't have the time or energy to weed out the B.S. from the truth. That could be a number of aspects for me. I have strong Saturn, Pluto, and Chiron aspects. I also am a Virgo. Meh. Think what you want. Being upfront and honest with people always is a lot easier in the long run for me. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 05:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: tMoon is in Scorpio, actually. That probably heightens your emotional side.
OMG yes... you're so right. I haven't had time to look at transits lately. And it goes through my 11th house too so that makes so much sense. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Knowflake Posts: 1552 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 05:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by enchantress299: Lying simply just to lie about anything and everything bugs the hell out of me. Mostly I get upset with it when telling the truth would simply have created less complication and problems for everyone involved. I don't respect people who feel the need to lie to cover up infidelity either. If you're not happy in a relationship, take responsibility for your actions and own up and stop wasting everyone's time. The thing is, I realize this is tendency about myself, so I tend to hang out with people who are more up front about themselves. Saves me a lot of grief in the long run since I just don't have the time or energy to weed out the B.S. from the truth. That could be a number of aspects for me. I have strong Saturn, Pluto, and Chiron aspects. I also am a Virgo. Meh. Think what you want. Being upfront and honest with people always is a lot easier in the long run for me.
I'm EXACTLY like this too, I hate how the person who made me so angry said she was just trying to make everyone happy so she couldn't tell the truth, when telling me the truth would have made me 100x less disappointed in her and less angry. She shot herself in the foot. I just can't stand either when people lie about things that should just be out in the open. Also, I feel the same way about infidelity. I'm also a Sagittarius rising which points to my need for truth. I'd say it's because we're Saturnine and Plutonian. We don't take BS easily. LOL... IP: Logged |
Geeky Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 06:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: It's not that I can't tolerate little lies sometimes. I understand that individuals feel the need to lie about dumb stuff sometimes in order to protect themselves [i.e., denying you like Twilight since a lot of people hate it and make fun of it] but trivial stuff like that isn't a huge bother to me. I can accept little lies. It's just shadiness - hiding true intent about plans, lying about where you are going, lying about feelings, etc. that infuriates me. I'm guessing now it is from the Scorp, Virgo and Saturn mix. I know why people lie. But it doesn't make me any less ****** off.
Me too! *waves wildly* YES YES YES!! Virgo Sun, Venus in Scorpio ------------------
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Geeky Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 06:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: Also, I feel the same way about infidelity. I'm also a Sagittarius rising which points to my need for truth. I'd say it's because we're Saturnine and Plutonian. We don't take BS easily. LOL...
I have a Sag moon and I have an incredible BS-detector. IP: Logged |
Geeky Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 06:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by enchantress299: Lying about stupid superficial crap doesn't bother me too much.
It bugs the heck out of me! Why lie? I am the coolest, most laid back, understanding and lovable person -- so no one needs to lie to me because I am so accepting. ??? Ugh... it really does bug me. IP: Logged |
Geeky Knowflake Posts: 510 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 06:18 PM
My ex used to lie about watching porn but that's silly because we used to watch it together so why he would lie and say he didn't was so weird and made no sense. ???He used to always get caught telling stupid lies and I felt like if he would lie about things that are so petty, then he must be lying about bigger issues. Turns out, he was cheating (I had to hack into his e-mail account to find that out). I was livid. I mean, why cheat? Why not just leave? I don't get it... No trust = no respect. No respect = no love or friendship. Someone else said that all people lie and you'll end up alienated. I have cut MANY people from my life and that's ok. I'd rather two or three people I trust with my life than a bunch of people who are unworthy of my time. I may end up alone in the end and that's really ok. I despise lying THAT MUCH. ------------------
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3097 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 17, 2013 06:23 PM
I barely lie. Because I hate it. And I feel better being honest. And if I ever lie I confess to someone about it right away. I've lied like 3 times this year I can think of and nothing serious. (And not to anyone I'm very close with) Trust is so important to me. I'm triple fixed. Leo sun/Taurus/moon Scorpio rising. My bf is Taurus/Taurus/Scorpio and feels the same way I do. Chart ruler in scorpio too. We both have Gemini Venus in the Taurus duad My best friend is a cap/sag/gem with mercury in aqua, sag Venus conjunct Uranus. She lies like a rug and it's the main reason we ve fought. She's gotten better though IP: Logged |