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posted November 20, 2011 02:32 PM            

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great thread:
http://www.nodeorama.com/thread-2426.html

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posted November 20, 2011 02:35 PM            

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Does just any aspect to Pluto turn a Moon Hades or does it have ta be a negative one?

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posted November 20, 2011 02:58 PM            

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lol something i read on the net described any aspect as pretty much being a square it's just that some could be more obvious.. that's just one person's take on it, though.. i'm not sure or think i recall knowing any chart with the trine of pluto and moon but the conjunction and oppositions/squares could probably be all very much at least similar, if not the same.

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posted November 20, 2011 04:40 PM            

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I'm so bored by the whole "Hades Moon" phenomena. Not all of us had abusive/psycho moms; not all of us are manipulative and have issues, either.

I think Judy Hall just projected her own experiences and those of a few friends she had, onto everybody with the Moon in aspect to Pluto. How my Moon-Pluto conjunction(two degree orb)manifests, is strictly as being emotionally intense, and able to real people well, and gravitating toward Plutonian/Scorpionic subject matter. That's it.

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posted November 20, 2011 04:47 PM            

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your understandings of the whole thing might be relative to something not everyone else compares it to, so... just sayin'.

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posted November 20, 2011 04:50 PM            

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I'm so bored by the whole "Hades Moon" phenomena. Not all of us had abusive/psycho moms; not all of us are manipulative and have issues, either.

I think Judy Hall just projected her own experiences and those of a few friends she had, onto everybody with the Moon in aspect to Pluto. How my Moon-Pluto conjunction(two degree orb)manifests, is strictly as being emotionally intense, and able to real people well, and gravitating toward Plutonian/Scorpionic subject matter. That's it.

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I have the trine and I concur.

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posted November 20, 2011 09:32 PM            

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I have moon square pluto. my mom and I do not get along. she is basically well in her own world, abusive and etc etc etc. you get the point. I on the other hand take alot to trust people and I read people beyond well before they can open their mouth. I also have a big heart, I am nowhere near manipulative, if that were the case I will be rich by now.

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posted November 20, 2011 10:53 PM            

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I have a wide sextile and my mom is something else.

I dunno, we can get along famously when she isn't being unreasonable. We saw got a palmistry reading before and the lady said we were bound for life. I dunno, man, our relationship has it's really bad times now and then. Other than that, I'm really the only one she can depend on these days.

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posted November 21, 2011 01:33 AM            

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I read people beyond well before they can open their mouth.

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Ay, same here. The square. Sometimes I wish I couldn't read the things I see. Be more simple sometimes being blissfully ignorant, I see so many other people living lies and they look so happy. I wish it had an off button.

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posted November 21, 2011 02:30 AM            

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posted November 21, 2011 04:05 AM            

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i have moon conjunct pluto in scorpio, my mom is pretty controlling but in a good way, she and i are inseparable. i take waay to much of her opinion into account but its mostly a positive impact.. lately i have been asking for some more space, which is kinda hard since we live together..

i had a pleasant childhood with only good memories thankfully..

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posted November 21, 2011 12:47 PM            

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My best friend has a Scorpio Moon conjunct Pluto and she has a very healthy relationship with her mom (who I find to be a great lady).

There are plenty of other people who have screwed up relationships with their moms who don't have any Moon/Pluto aspects.

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posted November 21, 2011 03:05 PM            

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Thanks for the link tux. I have the square, and I had a physically & emotionally abusive childhood.

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Often the mother invaded the child's life, controlled the child giving the child no space, no privacy and no place to hide. And no opportunity to be herself or himself.

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Accordingly many Moon-Plutonians live most of their lives without any awareness of the true nature of their family lives.

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Many Moon-Plutonians end up living most of their lives without any contact with their childhood families.

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Also not true in my case.

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posted November 21, 2011 03:17 PM            

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another moon square pluto here and unfortunately for me a lot of what has been written is true. but you know what they say 'you can't choose your family... well, ok true but i can choose my life and that's what i did.

and yes how i wish i can't see through people sometimes.

(pluto and lilith in H12.)

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posted November 21, 2011 04:46 PM            

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I have Moon/Pluto conjunct in the 9th/8th houses.

I needed a lot from my mom and she just wasn’t equipped to give it at the time because of (chronic, low grade) depression and because her own mother was abusive (my mom has Pluto in the 8th as well). She is much better now, especially now that I am older and I understand what she was going through and now that she is trying harder to communicate. Our relationship is great now, I consider her to be my most honest friend (notice I didn’t say “best” – she is a Cap/Sag/Cap after all). The other day she actually shared with me that she is “content”. That was the best thing I ever heard! I was shocked!

I was actually going to write a whole long story in this thread about it but I decided to put it in my “Know Two” thread here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum23/HTML/000138-6.html

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posted November 21, 2011 08:39 PM            

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My dauchter has Pluto/Moon conjunction in 5 th house. When i was pregnant my mom died and before there were several years of pain and sufferings, so i was not surprised when my dauchter appeared with such conjunction. For me it is connected with reincarnation, not with any manipulation or abuse. And i'm deeply in love with her, yes, may be more deeper then "normal" mom, but she helped me to recover, to transform myself.

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posted November 22, 2011 12:56 PM            

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I have moon in Leo square Pluto -- the tightest aspect my moon makes to any planet. My mom is one of my best friends and our relationship is amazing. She bends over backwards for me and gives nothing but love and support. When I was growing up, she was definitely overprotective and controlling in some ways, but I think it was because I'm an only child and she just wanted to keep me safe and healthy. Now that I'm adult that 'controlling' dynamic is gone and we get along beautifully.

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posted November 23, 2011 02:49 AM            

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My whole family are moon/pluto.Ive an moon square pluto, 6 degree orb but I count it because Ive an exactly parallel. Sometimes are my family not agreed. My daughter have an moon conj pluto ,in scorpio.. I cant see we have so much trouble between us. We are tight to each other.My son has moon opp pluto. He has strong integrity.My father has moon opp pluto. He had good contact with his mother when she was in the life. My father are now over 81.My mother had moon sextile pluto and good contact with her mother when she lived.
My old sister has moon semisextile Pluto and also she good contact with our mother .

In general. No one of us are not afraid of
conflicts. We sometimes love to go deeply into every problem and want to resolve. We are an moon aspect pluto family and we love people who are honest and stright.

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posted November 26, 2011 04:08 AM            

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Moon in conjunction with Pluto. You have always had a sense of being special, and of having experiences perhaps others have no memory of. You can handle even the most sensitive areas of your (or another's) mind, and have no problem with controversial and upsetting topics like death, dying, sex, and the like. You can't help being a psychologist of sorts. Sometimes it seems like the universe delights in showing its secrets just for you. You have a sixth sense for values, money, property -- opportunities.

from astrologysoftware.com

moon pluto in conjunction can be very positive
look how many stars have this, fergie from black eyed peas, will young, david bowie (need to check him), roman polanski etc

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posted November 26, 2011 04:18 AM            

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^ Anytime there is an outer planet conj a luminary there is a good chance that the person is very in tune with collective energies and with the hopes/dreams/fears of their generation. Perfect mouth piece. Is that the right term, lol. Sounds odd. Perfect voice might be better. Great for artists.

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posted November 26, 2011 10:41 AM            

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^ Perfect mouth piece. Is that the right term, lol. Sounds odd. Perfect voice might be better. Great for artists.

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posted February 26, 2012 06:22 PM            

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Me my dad and my brother are all Hades moon. My dad had an extremely abusive father and the interpretation of having to witness his mother being abused and get beaten daily really hurt him. I don't know what his birth was like but my grandparents were very poor in Serbia so I doubt she had easy pregnancy or birth...

"Accordingly many Moon-Plutonians live most of their lives without any awareness of the true nature of their family lives."

This is oh so true especially with my moon being in 8th. I was the one who uncovered the dark family secrets. I still feel like there is some more i will eventually uncover.

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posted February 26, 2012 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by tuxedoMask:
great thread:
http://www.nodeorama.com/thread-2426.html

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my thread.. better..
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/208816.html

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