posted December 23, 2008 04:19 PM              

feminine men usually have their venus in libra, or a preponderance of libra planets.

posted December 23, 2008 04:23 PM              

or maybe my harder aspects just mask it.

posted December 23, 2008 07:04 PM            

Dulce, you're right about Libras, Pisces and Cancer men. Especially the Cancer guys, I've noticed.

I wonder about 'masculine' women or women with a masculine air about them. I have Mars in the first conjunct the ascendant, and that should show some kind of 'masculine' trait.... but it's in Taurus along with my Taurus rising, so that's feminine. I'm not as sturdy as I should be with that rising sign, so I have no idea .
Maybe a fire Mars in conjunct a fire ascendant?

I do get along awfully well with men for the most part, though. I think the Mars aspect really might contribute.

posted December 23, 2008 07:08 PM            

For a woman,Aries in particular and the moon in conj or hard asp to mars/uranus in one of the angular houses.

posted December 23, 2008 07:09 PM              

Most guys like him aren't the "magnet" types though. He complained to me that most girls look at him only as a friend.

posted December 24, 2008 12:06 AM            

I am a feminine male to the point that I have been mistaken for being gay. I have been called "fag","faggot" numerous times since freshman year of high school. I have definitely been viewed as being sissy in childhood,and so I attracted a lot of bullies.

I have a high pitched voice,and very softspoken. I have been told numerous times that I sound like Michael Jackson. I have been told stuff like "You sound like a b-tch" and been accused of being gay because of it. In yahoo chatrooms, my talking on the microphone led to be being accused of being gay,being called "faggot" and that I take it up the butt. Stuff like that is not true,and it really hurt my feelings and embarassed me. I prefer typing than speaking when communicating in chatrooms to avoid any more situations like that.

My facial features tend to be more on the feminine side, and so I have been mistakened for being gay because of this. One guy in the navy told me straight up "You look like a fag"

A femininity about me is more apparent when when I had long hair,especially it being curly and no beard..especially if I go clean shaven.

I think that I look more masculine when my hair is short and I have a beard.

I think that it could be my high feminine sign influence combined with Neptune

My Sun in Scorpio
Mercury in Scorpio parallel Neptune
Venus in Scorpio parallel Neptune
My Moon in Pisces square Neptune
My Ascendant in Virgo
Mars square Neptune

my Mercury conjunct/parallel Venus in Scorpio in 3rd for the sweet sounding voice

I also read in a psychological astrology book by Betty Lundsted that a male with all the big 3 (Sun,Moon,and Ascendant) in feminine signs could have strong feminine traits and be insecure about their masculinity...especially connected to the mother being the more dominating influence That's all true in my case....especially only knowing my mother and not my father.

I also believe that my Sun trine Moon with 2'10 orb, and my Sun conjunct the true lunar apogee(aka True Black Moon Lilith) with 22 minutes of arc which means that my Sun aspects not only the moon,but its apogee means that I can strongly identify with the feminine. This can help me relate to females. I am a believer in gender equality and women's rights. I do consider myself a feminist.

Veteran Affairs Hormone testing showed that I do have high levels of estrogen and lower than average levels of testosterone. I also have highly feminine finger ratios(my index fingers are longer than my ring fingers)which indicate exposing to more estrogen in my mom's womb.

I want to reiterate that just because a male has feminine traits doesn't mean that he is gay. I also want to reiterate that just because a female has masculine traits doesn't mean that she is a lesbian. I see those erroneous perceptions are pervasive in our society,and they are believed by many people of both genders. It does lead to many misunderstandings,prejudice,and mistreatment. I think stereotypes hurt a lot of people.

I do believe my experiences helped me to believe in gay rights and sympathize with their cause including the right to marry the ones that they love even if they are the same gender as them.

btw....Winona Ryder is my birthdate twin,
and I read that she had a history of being mistakened for a gay boy and being picked on because of it.

posted December 24, 2008 12:15 AM            

A good friend of mine is a double Taurus/Cancer rising and he gets perceived as feminine all the time, as more receptive than he really is. People really underestimate him (especially with that Cancer rising, he's got an extremely emotionally animated face).

posted December 24, 2008 12:33 AM            

My Mom has Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer
She has Moon and Saturn in Scorpio
She has Mars in Capricorn

so she has 7 planets in feminine signs(6 of them in watersigns),and her Ascendant is in feminine signs(in a watersign)

my father had

Sun,Mercury in Capricorn
Moon in Pisces
Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus in Taurus (Jupiter,Saturn are stationary)
Stationary Neptune in Virgo
so he had 7 planets in feminine signs.
from what my mom told me,he didn't fit traditional male stereotypes with his being highly sensitive emotional,and very softspoken(even more so than me)

my maternal grandfather had

Sun,Pluto in Cancer
Moon,Saturn in Pisces (Saturn is stationary)
Jupiter,Ascendant in Scorpio
Neptune in Virgo

so he has all of the big 3(Sun,Moon,Ascendant) in feminine signs(all water signs)
He had 6 planets in feminine signs,and ascendant in a feminine sign.

he wasn't feminine in an apparent way,and he would be kinda macho too(I think it was more out of hiding behind a shell to protect his highly sensitive nature), but he could express feminine traits when he is vulnerable or when he is being nurturing.......especially when he chose to keep my mother when my maternal grandmother wanted to put my mom up for adoption. Unlike my maternal grandmother,he wanted his child,and wasn't going to give her up. That's why mom grew up knowing her father,but never knew her mother who disappeared without a trace. That's an example of that some males can be more nurturing than some females.

my maternal grandmother had

Sun,Mars,Uranus in Aries
Venus,Saturn in Aquarius
Jupiter in Libra
so she had 6 planets in masculine signs

she and my grandfather were only meant to be together for a very brief time to bring my mom into the world.

my grandfather found his soulpartner in another woman,married her,and had 4 children with her. He was married to her for 40 years until his suicide in 1998. He was my stepgrandmother's first and only guy that she's ever been with. She met him when she was 13,and he was 19.....not long after he came back from Korea and kept my mom who was a baby at the time.

so like me, my mom was born from a short relationship, never knowing the other parent that disappeared without a trace.

I plan to cut that chain. I want to meet a woman and be with her for the rest of my life and for my children to know both their parents. I plan to stay in my children's lives. Only death will keep me apart from them. I wish that their mother will be like that too. I don't want them to grow up not knowing their mothers. I believe that not knowing one's mother is a lot worse than not knowing one's father because of the strong physical attachment from being in your mom's womb. I am a person that loves and cares about children, and I know that I would be very nurturing to my own children, especially with my strong feminine traits.

Raymond