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Topic: Scorpio Risings and Perception
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Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 1388 From: Plutanus/Uruno Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 01, 2016 11:24 AM
Do you feel like you know someone like the back of your hand after meeting them for a few times? If you're more quiet than loud, do you tend to easily pick up on people's insecurities and store it as a sort of defensive mechanism for future use? Do you tend to not be aware of the amount of attention you attract? Sometimes when I am speaking to people, I am listening to them, but I am picking up more than just what they are saying. It's like an automatic habit of reading between the lines; I can see things most people aren't aware of. If someone is upset about something, I can tell almost immediately that there is something wrong. I can sense these energies so easily. ------------------ Scorpio Ascendant Aquarius Sun in 4th Gemini Moon in 8th Check out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.com IP: Logged |
Starry~* Knowflake Posts: 577 From: New York, USA Registered: Nov 2011
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posted November 01, 2016 11:41 AM
Yes. All the time, every time. Sometimes I am accused of over-thinking and over-analyzing. I am not always correct but I am usually correct about other people's insecurities and their deeper psychological problems. Not everybody can stomach it when I let them know the real root of their problems, though. So I have learned to just keep my mouth shut..and should there ever be a situation in the future where it's more suitable for me to bring it up to that person, then I will.IP: Logged |
erickaf Knowflake Posts: 1496 From: Europe Registered: Oct 2014
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posted November 01, 2016 11:56 AM
I am a Scorpio rising and no I would never say I know someone like the back of my hand. I think ppl are too complex and deep to figure out after meeting a few times. I kind of wish I had those 'powers'; pick up on people's insecurities, etc. That would be such an awesome super power to have. However, I can pretty easily figure out if someone is being genuine with me instantly, if someone is lying, I have premonitions as well. I think it's my moon in Aquarius, I don't absorb others feelings, I tend to focus more their thoughts, ideas, etc... I'm a strange Scorpio rising? Lol.
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girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 369 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted November 01, 2016 02:01 PM
@electrothe abilities you're mentioning (reading between the line, picking up on people's intentions, etc) have more to do with moon/pluto and mercury/pluto aspects. I know a few Scorpio risings (with scorpio pluto in their 12th or 1st). I can't say they all have x ray minds, but they all have one thing in common: a certain skepticism which leads to intensity. they're sometimes right about their instincts though, as it's a water sign anyway. IP: Logged |
AwakenSky16 Knowflake Posts: 25 From: between here and threre Registered: Oct 2016
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posted November 01, 2016 02:15 PM
I can recognize some aspecting asc scorpio... Mars scorpio ? Moon in scorpio can make this too I think but it's not yours it can depend on where is your neptune (is it aspecting your moon for example) your mercury ? Pluto ? Uranus ? I am Aqua sun and I can feel this because I am really interested to observe the others persons and ear what they said. But sometimes I don't want to and it comes even so... I am also much on the analysis (mercury Cap ?) find here http://moonbirdblog.com/indicators-of-psychic-ability-in-your-natal-chart/ "It is true that certain signs stand out more than others when it comes to intuition. Pisces, Taurus, Aquarius, Scorpio, and Cancer come to mind, however, it should be noted that all signs have equal intuitive potential— they simply express it differently. The most accurate way to analyze your chart is to begin by considering the fact that all signs have their own intuitive filters and their own ways of accessing and expressing source.For Example: Water Intuition Emotions are going to be a vehicle for intuition if you have a lot of water in your chart or if the Moon and Neptune are in strong positions. This may make you an empath, which means that you will have the ability to feel and hold the energy of others, not unlike how water holds and reflects energy. A heavy water influence is also going to make you a natural connector and conductor of spiritual energy. Your life purpose may involve reminding people of how interconnected we all are because the feeling is so visceral. You feel the spirit world all the time, you know the rhythm behind consciousness and are always translating it into art, which is the gentlest way to digest spiritual information. Air Intuition Mental energy is going to be a strong vein for your intuition if you find yourself with prominent air energy in your chart. This airy influence is going to make you claircognizant, meaning that you have a very clear and innate “knowing” about things when there is no Earthly reason. You may also find yourself drawn to being a spiritual teacher as communicating and translating spiritual energy may be very natural for you. Intuitively you are very motivated to understand exactly how things work in metaphysics. You want to be a bridge between the complex multi-dimensions of spirit and the dense, grounded 3D world. " ------------------ Sun/Moon/NN Aqua Asc Leo my stelli Neptune/Mars/Jupiter/venus in Sag.
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Nine Moderator Posts: 2685 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted November 01, 2016 07:36 PM
Oh WOW, the Scorpio Asc is back.IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 2149 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 01, 2016 08:05 PM
Is your birth time off by a whole lot? (Asking coz I thought that's why you were considering an earlier Asc). IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5076 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2016 08:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Oh WOW, the Scorpio Asc is back.
Yeah he was a Virgo riser for a day, Faith started a thread about people who rectify their chart and why they are wrong and he changed his mind back. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1582 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 01, 2016 08:23 PM
^^ well that whole soul entering body at a separate time theory was kinda disproved by all the pics i posted.. so since he already had his birth time, there was only a point of rectifying if that soul body entering thing was real, IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3110 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted November 01, 2016 09:05 PM
Edit: hmmmm.... I'm never able to put things into words properly. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8493 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted November 01, 2016 09:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: Do you feel like you know someone like the back of your hand after meeting them for a few times? If you're more quiet than loud, do you tend to easily pick up on people's insecurities and store it as a sort of defensive mechanism for future use? Do you tend to not be aware of the amount of attention you attract? Sometimes when I am speaking to people, I am listening to them, but I am picking up more than just what they are saying. It's like an automatic habit of reading between the lines; I can see things most people aren't aware of. If someone is upset about something, I can tell almost immediately that there is something wrong. I can sense these energies so easily.
This fits me, save storing the info to use as a defense mechanism. It could be, in part, that I've learned to see below surface appearances, in part as a survival skill when I had to navigate chaotic alcoholic parents and later dangerous environments (like on the streets as a homeless runaway), and also got some training on how to exploit people's perceptions and their amazing ability to be so easily fooled by appearances. Becoming a writer of fiction that focuses on character over plot also makes me interested in the hidden sides of people. But I'm a Leo ASC. My sun and several planets are on the Scorpio cusp, however (Jupiter in Scorpio). The Leo ASC may be part of why I seem to get more attention than I think I'm worth, but I'm usually surprised by it. I also know a Scorpio ASC and stellium who was very delusional about people to the point I wondered if she might have multiple personalities. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 5076 From: Colorado Registered: Sep 2014
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posted November 01, 2016 09:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by soren: ^^ well that whole soul entering body at a separate time theory was kinda disproved by all the pics i posted.. so since he already had his birth time, there was only a point of rectifying if that soul body entering thing was real,
I really don't care about physical attributes in connection to the ascendant. I have never used that as a way to determine someone's ascendant and don't trust that technique at all. I go by personality, life events/transits and synastry. Too many factors influence physical attributes including genetics and probably the entire chart overall plays a role. If you are choosing people's ascendant based on physical attributes to me that is a terrible way to go about it. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1582 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 01, 2016 09:17 PM
well i thought the results were striking but thats just me. and with the pics i wasnt determining any asc, just proving that birth time were accurate.IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 8926 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 01, 2016 09:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Oh WOW, the Scorpio Asc is back.
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: Yeah he was a Virgo riser for a day, Faith started a thread about people who rectify their chart and why they are wrong and he changed his mind back.
Rude. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 8926 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 01, 2016 09:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: Do you feel like you know someone like the back of your hand after meeting them for a few times? If you're more quiet than loud, do you tend to easily pick up on people's insecurities and store it as a sort of defensive mechanism for future use? Do you tend to not be aware of the amount of attention you attract? Sometimes when I am speaking to people, I am listening to them, but I am picking up more than just what they are saying. It's like an automatic habit of reading between the lines; I can see things most people aren't aware of. If someone is upset about something, I can tell almost immediately that there is something wrong. I can sense these energies so easily.
Yes. Mum said to me more than once, "You were right! I should have listened to you" about things that happened when I was a kid. When I first met someone who ended up destroying a good part of my life, I didn't want to be around him, and I was so jittery with anxiety. There are times when I just know things, and times when I pick up on energy instead - I once picked up on someone's butterflies (it was annoying, and he was in another country). IP: Logged |
Electro DGX Knowflake Posts: 1388 From: Plutanus/Uruno Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 01, 2016 09:38 PM
WOW Nine...Anyways, I still have the rectified chart just in case; an extra slot or it was made so I can go back to it in order to compare this or that and see if that may be my actual chart. Right now, I'm stuck between the two and decided to revert back to a Scorpio Ascendant for many reasons. Don't think that it's Faith that caused me to go back to my original ascendant; I've been thinking about this quite a bit myself. I want to clarify that the time on my birth certificate is indeed accurate; my mom described it to me multiple times without having to show me my birth certificate. I'm just trying so hard to understand my chart and piece everything together in a way that makes sense for me. I fell prey to my confusion and asked for a chart rectification to see if that cleared things up, but it seems that either way I go I am bound to run into unexplained obstacles along the way. My Mercury-Neptune conjunction can easily distort information and stretch it out, and this may have caused me confusion regarding my Mars-Ascendant aspect. I also heard Kannon talking about the idea of the soul entering the body before the actual delivery, and it got me thinking. There were people who said I fit Scorpio more so and there were people who said I fit Virgo more. The thing with Virgo that really through me off is how health conscientious they can be; I do feel like I could use a little more weight but I'm not obsessed with maintaining my body, not to mention that I eat all sorts of food, which includes junk food. Also, north node in the twelfth house just did not resonate at all. They may be just minor details but they heavily influenced my thoughts regarding this. I'm also thinking that I may have appeared so much like a Virgo Riser (appearance) because my asteroid DNA is in Virgo. I can't help being curious :P ------------------ Scorpio Ascendant Aquarius Sun in 4th Gemini Moon in 8th Check out my blog ya'll: www.electrodgxtalks.wordpress.com IP: Logged |
headintheclouds91 Knowflake Posts: 503 From: Registered: Mar 2016
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posted November 01, 2016 09:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul: @electrothe abilities you're mentioning (reading between the line, picking up on people's intentions, etc) have more to do with moon/pluto and mercury/pluto aspects. I know a few Scorpio risings (with scorpio pluto in their 12th or 1st). I can't say they all have x ray minds, but they all have one thing in common: a certain skepticism which leads to intensity. they're sometimes right about their instincts though, as it's a water sign anyway.
^ Soooo true. My friend who is a Scorpio ASC with pluto in her 1st house conjunct her ASC is exactly like this. IP: Logged |
soren Knowflake Posts: 1582 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 01, 2016 10:02 PM
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soren Knowflake Posts: 1582 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012
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posted November 01, 2016 10:09 PM
electro for your mars asc confusion if its really your aspect. it can be somewhat easy to verify. just draw up 10+ pictures of people who share the same aspect. compare your pic. also throw in a pic that has nothing of a similar sort just to contrast and compare to help you know what you are seeingIP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1278 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted November 02, 2016 05:51 AM
I'm not sure I do. I've a reflex to look beneath the surface and not trust the immediate impression but I'm not conscious of doing anything with that. Or when I do, it's not always right but... It's hard to say as so many things are unconscious. I probably do but overwhelming penetrative insight is not what I get with a first impression. Mostly am trying to cloud my own visor from being transparent in first instances. Unless there is a situation involving sex or power. Work situations, socialising where I can pick up on undercurrents not to do with me better. If it's to do with me, not so much. (Sq and opp to asc maybe) Or, when meeting someone new I was attracted to I could identify what a person was used to and differentiate myself from that - it does feel like prolonging survival. Parlour trick kind of perception though. But deep perception, that means something more happens with people close when I can identify the power lines underneath what's going on. Mostly, so I can understand that something immediately confusing/hurtful is caused by something understandable. Reading back the op, over a few times meeting someone I've realised I do do what you said. I don't think they are always accurate though or what happens is I'll think one thing, find out more and be suprised by an opposite impression but I suppose that doesn't mean I've not picked up valid things the first time. it is a bit like tagging certain vulnerabilities for future reference. Pisces Decan IP: Logged |
areesquivel Knowflake Posts: 171 From: Registered: Feb 2016
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posted November 02, 2016 10:59 AM
Scorpio Rising here and sounds like me also, specially when people I know already like friends even talking on the phone I know something's wrong. I've heard the not be aware of the amount of attention I can attract from people, but I honestly don't see it, I consider myself pretty insecure and I always feel I'm attracting the wrong kind of attention and I feel if someone looks me straight in my eyes they might know everything about me cause I feel my expressions tell everything.IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte Knowflake Posts: 726 From: astral plane Registered: Dec 2009
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posted November 02, 2016 11:15 AM
I can relate to this, I have a Taurus rising though with Pluto conjunct my chart ruler Venus in Scorpio conj the DC so it's opposition to my ASC is fairly tight and whenever I read about Scorpio rising I can relate a lot to it. People mention my eyes all the time and I have a rather dark appearance but my Venusian nature makes me a bit softer. I read into people pretty accurately and psychology comes naturally to me, I can def pick up people's insecurities, I don't know if I use it against them but I collect a lot of different feelings from people and usually are really spot on from what I feel from people, past wise and how it effects them now. I tend to find out secrets about people or others tell me/confide in me. Every once in awhile I'll get really negative vibes from certain people, I keep my distance but observe and in those instances I suppose to see their flaws and weakness lightens the intensity in feeling towards them, it helps me to understand others. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 8926 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 02, 2016 04:35 PM
I forgot to add that I'm not into holding onto someone's weak spots, in order to attack them. I've done it once or twice, and felt sick about it. This was when they kept doing it to me. IP: Logged |
Mergoatsun Knowflake Posts: 887 From: USA Today Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 02, 2016 06:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Electro DGX: WOW Nine...Anyways, I still have the rectified chart just in case; an extra slot or it was made so I can go back to it in order to compare this or that and see if that may be my actual chart. Right now, I'm stuck between the two and decided to revert back to a Scorpio Ascendant for many reasons. Don't think that it's Faith that caused me to go back to my original ascendant; I've been thinking about this quite a bit myself. I want to clarify that the time on my birth certificate is indeed accurate; my mom described it to me multiple times without having to show me my birth certificate. I'm just trying so hard to understand my chart and piece everything together in a way that makes sense for me. I fell prey to my confusion and asked for a chart rectification to see if that cleared things up, but it seems that either way I go I am bound to run into unexplained obstacles along the way. My Mercury-Neptune conjunction can easily distort information and stretch it out, and this may have caused me confusion regarding my Mars-Ascendant aspect. I also heard Kannon talking about the idea of the soul entering the body before the actual delivery, and it got me thinking. There were people who said I fit Scorpio more so and there were people who said I fit Virgo more. The thing with Virgo that really through me off is how health conscientious they can be; I do feel like I could use a little more weight but I'm not obsessed with maintaining my body, not to mention that I eat all sorts of food, which includes junk food. Also, north node in the twelfth house just did not resonate at all. They may be just minor details but they heavily influenced my thoughts regarding this. I'm also thinking that I may have appeared so much like a Virgo Riser (appearance) because my asteroid DNA is in Virgo. I can't help being curious :P
You shouldn't have to explain anything. Everyone is on a journey of finding themselves. You do whatever feels best for you, and screw the rest. I personally always thought you looked like a Scorpio rising myself, and you have the mars conjunct ascendant intensity in your eyes. But ultimately, it is up to you. It takes time and you may sway back and forth but that's all apart of learning. ------------------ "Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto Knowflake Posts: 3792 From: love lives forever Registered: Mar 2014
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posted November 02, 2016 09:09 PM
^Re: your original questions in the first post, from a Scorpio riser: Yes. At least to the first sentence, and the last paragraph mostly. IP: Logged |