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theFajita
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posted December 08, 2002 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
about the erupting like a volcano!

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Carlo
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posted December 09, 2002 02:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to makin' love I do the best I can,
'Cuz I'm known from coast to coast as the 60 Minute Man

not 60 Second Man lol

Fire signs always get the real deal, all Water signs, all Earth signs, and Libras...Aquarius and Gemini, well, they're in their own world, so the four f's apply

Linda Goodman says we are very passionate, so you have to believe her...no, you have to...no, you have to...no, you have to!!!

Love & Rockets,
Carlo

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Lost Leo
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posted December 09, 2002 03:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo I agree, I think Air signs are the worst in bed. I know a couple Libra girls who just got poor remarks from their men. Of course it could just have been their individual chemistry... But I honestly believe that Air Signs "think" too much as lovers. To be a good lover you have to follow instinct, feel, and express that feeling without words, through motion that typifies your emotion and passion.

By the way, I'm an idiot, the 4 f's thing went over my head, whadidyamean?

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morgana
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posted December 09, 2002 07:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My best lover? Definitely Cancer.
Although I've tried very few of the signs.

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Carlo
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posted December 09, 2002 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the four f's? It's a guy thing...ask around, you'll find out...too chauvanist probably to post here, I'm sure...you never know when a lurking Libra Warrior will sneak up on you and start swinging and saying that we are just hard-up and unhappy guys just thinking about sex all the time lol. What the F*CK is so wrong about that? It is part of life. That was one out-of-line @#$%& person!!!

Of course, as you all saw, and many of you knew all along, my master plan was to make that creature kick and shout and spit venom and show her true colors, which she did. And that was all I intended to do, all along, nothing more and nothing less. I refrained from posting on this thread for a while, and it is a topic that I am writing a book on, so I wanted to contribute early on, yet stayed away. She needed a major spanking, yet who I am to do it? I just got under her skin enough so that she would blow her top and get real ugly and everyone would see it. So I had the last laugh, as planned. And I don't care if she jumps in and gets ill again, and takes her cheap Air sign shots at me (Air signs suck at landing punches, don't they?)...they all roll off, since I truly could care less what someone like her thinks.

So where were we? Yeah, the only Air signs I have ever enjoyed in bed is Libra...the others are truly not "there", so why waste your time? It's like Sam Kinison, that sublime grandmaster of relationship counseling, used to always say that being sweet and nice to women always works. Why? "Because this is what they're used too...," he'd say... "Ahhh,ahh...ahhhhh (pause)...let me use your face to wipe it off...(screaming) and where's your purse, I need cab fare!!!" Well, we all know what happened to him, yet he didn't pull any punches or make any apologizes. I mean he was doing standup for gods sake...you don't like it, don't pay the ten bucks to go in, idiot. Yet his comments on what women are used to, while possibly crass and entirely inaccurate, are somewhat similar to my experiences with Gemini and Aquarian girls (and no offense to Gemini or Aquarians out there, this is just my actual experience!!!)...like "the four f's", adolescent boys call it, a more civilized way to make the reference that Sam would just belch out...yet similar results...

BB,
Carlo

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Jaqueline
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posted December 09, 2002 02:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo

As I haven't been with a virgo man.... I will accept your word.

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I'm known from coast to coast as the 60 Minute Man


Love
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pidaua
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posted December 09, 2002 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't been with an air sign, but my Leo has an Aquarius moon and my ex is a Virgo with a Gemini moon.

The Virgo was so tender and sweet, but somewhere the Madonna complex took over and he changed, but we are still best friends and I love him dearly.

My Leo, well...he is all about passion and taking his time..sometimes it really drives this Archer crazy, but it is intoxicating. I can honestly say that I have never felt so worshipped sexually, where every touch is so intense and I tingle all over. Then again, he gets the same treatment from me as I absolutely adore his body and treat him to some pretty kingly (or should I say kinky)pleasures that just makes him purrrrrr. I never knew that one could spend so many hours enjoying another person so totally.

I will have to add one thing though, which I believe my Leo would totally deny, and that is that I have more stamina that he does. I have also found that he LOVES a challenge. So after a few nights of major sexual aerobics I will say that I am just too worn out to go another night and need to take a break. Well, that is when he really wants to prove that he is king of the jungle and can go the distance. LOL....I love those nights..

Oh....and it is true about Leo's and mirrors.. not that I mind watching a bit too.

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theFajita
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posted December 09, 2002 07:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo- I'm hurt, us Aquarians aren't all that bad!

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RubyRedRam
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posted December 09, 2002 09:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think Individuals have a right to make judgement on who is bad in bed because..

'It takes two to tango'

Oh and Carlo, when we mention quickness you dont need to get so defensive...god knows what that might make us think.....

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Oxychick
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posted December 10, 2002 07:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo, I must disagree! Anyone I've been with has only ever said very good things about me...(and maybe it's my Leo moon that knows this). They don't always say it me either; men talk just as much to their friends as women do. And I am an Aquarius girl with a Gemini Rising.

Just as your experience has been that Air women are the worst in bed, my experience has been that Earthy men are the worst in bed (though a Water or Eath female would probably disagree with me-it's just a blending of the elements). Of course our experiences are all limited, but every Virgo except for one guy from Italy (ah, those Italians!) I've ever dated definitely lacked passion, as did the Capricorns. The Taurus, like the Virgo (and mind you my sample size is rather limited here), were indeed 60-second men. Or 30, if you will. I will admit though that a Gemini man I was with (years ago) was slightly lacking in the passion department, but that's such a grey situation. He had a definite drinking and drug problem, which seemed to be where the other problems stemmed from. (But he still outran the Earthy men) An Aquarian that I was with was one of the most amazing lovers-there was never a dull moment and we blended so well together! And I say that without malice as he and I are definitely not on good terms now. I've found that Leos are often a little too eager. It seems that I am most familiar with Aries men, of whom I have very few complaints. (are there even any Aries men on this board?)

By the way, I just realized that I am starting to look like someone who gets around. I'm not always referring to people I've slept with (and besides, Aquarians like variety )

So I think that whereas Water men (oh, those Scorpios!!) may have an overwhelming appreciation as lovers, I think a lot of it is due to other factors, including the other partner.

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Carlo
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posted December 10, 2002 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you all are entitled to your opinions too All I said was what mine is So disagree, yet unless you have slept with Gemini or Aquarius girls before, you cannot comment on what a guy who has done so thinks. That is just my experience, so you can be as hurt as you want to be, and that would be unfortunate, for you, of course, to feel that way, just because of one person's experiences with people you never met nor ever will. Yet it won't change my actual experience. Maybe it will change yours, who knows, yet I know what I see. Possibly a Gemini and an Aquarius at the same time would be cool, yet in my experience, they are just not that great by themselves. Maybe you two are just incredible lovers, who knows, yet that should not hurt you that one boy thinks others of your sign haven't been memorable. Just the same, I am thrilled that your experiences with Earth signs have been sucky! Why? Because at least you went and had the experiences, learned from them, and shared your knowledge. That is what really matters now. Yet to jump in and say, "Oh yeah? Well Earth signs suck too, so there!" is well, not memorable. Lots of people do that, and it does not make for a strong argument, you see, since it leaves the hearer going "Oh, I get it...you were offended, or 'hurt', so you shot back...pretty clever comeback...not...who's next?!"

I am sure Oxychick that you are all that, okay, and I have had several very excellent lovers from New York, I used to say that NYC girls are imminently f*ckable. I lived in Mass my whole life, and I would drive to NYC all the time, it was three and a half hours to the Boogie Down or Park Slope, and I was kickin' it. So okay, you rock and rule in bed, and Earth signs are lame...okay, however you want to have it. Yet no matter what you think, you will have people in life who do not think you were that great as physical lovers, and naturally, so will I, we all will. We'll meet people who think that certain signs are not noteworthy lovers, and so forth. It's normal, actually...so deal with it gracefully if you hear no-so-perfect comments about your own sign...accept it. Read Love Signs, all 12 for each Woman of those two signs, she even agrees

Love,
Carlo

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fire cracker
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posted December 10, 2002 11:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thats a balls. i think its extremely superficial to rate someone as "good" or "bad" based on sun sign. need to look at the whole chart as with any topic sex or otherwise. you can read love signs but sex signs by judith bennet is good. quote:
"todays woman is a complex person living in a complex era. a scorpio in her 20's may identify with the chapter on the aries woman.she is undergoing an aries phase in her life.also, she may wish to emulate a leo. she only has to read the chapter on the leo woman to see whether her fantasy is worth pursuing and on how this mite be done.i feel a woman must be liberated from the sense that her sun sign is her charaacter cast in stone"
excellent book...

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Carlo
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posted December 10, 2002 12:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rating is normal, we all do it, and are not extremely superficial when we do. Especially us Virgs, we rate everything, and sometimes, every one. We all do it.

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Lost Leo
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posted December 10, 2002 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our comments are our own perspectives based on our individual experiences. What does anyone care about my perspective, you don't even know me....?
We all get a little peeved when someone knocks our sign, the "Leos are eager" remark got me wondering what she meant. But we all just have to let it go as their experience...
with a person sharing our sun sign... NOT YOU

I have to agree with Oxychick though on the fact that Scorpios know what's up in bed.

I think the reason is they don't "have sex" they "explore" sex. They are so mature in the way the approach sex. They explore it for ultimate pleasure for them, ultimate pleasure for their partner, ultimate spiritual fulfillment, and ultimate loving fulfillment. Although they make it obvious that each of these is the goal on separate occasions, with different scenarios, not all at once; with the exception of a handful of the rare once-in-a-lifetime nights.

She felt sexual expression is as big a part of your life as emotional expression, and I believe her.

That Scorp broadened my horizon past simple physical fulfillments and stupid materialistic & social attachments most people associate with sex. In another post someone wrote, "We spent all night worshipping each other," and that is a perfect description of what the Scorp taught me... Not to even be concerned with the end result, actually make the experience non-orgasmic for both of you. Just enjoy the expression and concentrate on the energy flowing between one another, it's like meditation

Of course there were plenty of other times as well, when all she wanted was a quickie "O" to put her in a better mood

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theFajita
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posted December 10, 2002 05:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo, you are right, I have not had an Aquarian girl. I do know where you are coming from, your wife, she is a Leo right, I do love them Leos!!!

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Lost Leo
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posted December 10, 2002 11:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Has anyone else had the experience of a particular sign/lover flip your view upside-down?

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Cinni
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posted December 11, 2002 12:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LostLeo, not sure what your post meant, but from my experience, I had a Gemini ex who said Aries women were cold fishes in bed. Being a ram, I was first appalled (the noyve of that scamp!) and then laughed my tookus off. Though the temptation to thwap him with a waffle iron was overwhelming, I restrained myself admirably...ha ha.

Human beings are sexual beings. And being sexual beings, we do have the tendency to 'rate' or qualify the sexual experiences or partners that were enjoyable or least enjoyable to us. Rating them by signs is no different than rating the person according to their hair color but that boils down to preference, too. Sure, it's shallow but we all have our moments of shallowness and it's nothing more reflective of who we are than what we 'rate' our lovers by whatever standards. It's an entirely subjective thing, and from the threads in this post, it was meant entirely to be light-hearted and fun. I found in my life, more often than not, Geminis come in and out of my life and for the longest time I could never figure it out. Could it be that 5 of my major planets landed in the 3rd house and my uber-communicativeness attracted those denizens of the third house? The upshot of it was that I ended becoming very good friends with my Gemini exs and having a ball talking up a storm with them. Same with Virgos . Of all the signs in the zodiac, that was one sign I never had a lover with, and for the most part it was because I was more comfortable being very good friends with them. Their analytical and oft times laser sharp way of cutting through the b.s. was something I often had a great kick with. Most of my 'partners in crime' in writing and deep discussions were Virgos and their insights were wonderful. My partner has a Virgo Ascendancy and it was part of what charmed me to him in the first place. But, I digress. If there was a sign, though, that was a complete let down for me, and I was supposedly compatible with, it has to be Sagitarrius. Could not connect with them at all! Couldn't wait to get rid of them either! LOL!

Ahhh, the thoughts one thinks of when so deprived of sleep. Lol.

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Carlo
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posted December 11, 2002 12:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Naturally, the discussion comes back to how truly awesome we Virgos are in bed lol

Aries girls rock, they are natural acrobats and very eager lovers. And I don't think it is at all shallow to rate, not in the least. I think it is human, nothing more, nothing less, and thus natural and thus just perfect in every way. What gets us in trouble, of course, is sharing our ratings with others! It's like anything else, politics, movies, cars...we all rate and it is just fine, we don't have to change one bit. Yet be careful when sharing that info, for then others will give their opinions and a messy argument may ensue. Keep quiet, and all is well. I mean how many of us have made love to someone and thought of someone else, even for a moment? It is human, and even if we feel bad and wish we didn't do so, it's pretty normal. Yet do you tell the person?? Do you share? One time, after sex, I joked with the girl that I am so happy not to just be sleeping with supermodels anymore, and the girl lost her mind. So it's only when we share our onions that we possibly get in trouble. Why do you think that people fake orgasms (guys do it too, you know)? To avoid altogether sharing the truth of our experience with our lovers, especially if it was substandard (gods, what a cold Virgo term!) Yet keep your mouth shut and it will fall like rain

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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Lost Leo
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posted December 11, 2002 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo you are comedy!

I don't know what I like better, that Aries girl's are natural acrobats... hmmm
or the fact she lost her mind after the supermodel remark

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posted December 11, 2002 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo... you are too much.

Would I EVER think of another when I am in bed with someone. Hmmmmm, well, not that I would share. LOL

I think I may have had sex with Brad Pitt more than a few times, well, in my mind.

Ahh, but then there was that tall, strapping, blue-eyed Pisces man that stole my heart (What is it about deep blue eyes that just traps me....) I didn't have to think about Brad with him, he looked almost like Mr. Pitt.

I guess that would bring me to the experience with the Pisces. He was soft, tender and almost felt like he was melting into me. It was very profound, but he was not very experimental. He felt that a woman should never be put in, shall I say this with a straight face, certain positions.


Miss you Carlo!!!


Shawnee

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Carlo
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posted December 12, 2002 12:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now Shawnee, you know you can't do that to me...I'm sure I speak for the whole sandbox when I say...WHAT POSITIONS?!?

See, I just don't get that type of (lack of) logic. And therein lies the essence of the Virgo-Pisces polarity. I personally would want to know about every position, and could never even conceptualize the idea of a woman not being able to be in a particular position because I didn't think she should be. That line of thinking is so foreign to me. I'm a Dom for chrissakes, I've had them tied up, as footstools, tables...positions you wouldn't usually think of. So I'd be all "What position don't you think you can do? Let's try it right now then! It'll be fine, you'll see baby, just let your mind go and your body will follow..." Is that so wrong? And I would think that a Fire sign would feel similarly, like "There is nothing I cannot do!" Yet Pisces are just simply the least confrontational sign around. I was at a Pagan gathering a couple years ago and I was in a canoe with a fabulous Pagan girl named Devon Lovegrove. We had such a blast the whole five days, everywhere we went, she would walk on her hands and I would sing dirty songs and pound Guinness. So we're in this canoe, and there are these two boys, maybe 13-14 years old in another canoe. I was rowing Devon across the lake to show here where the sweat lodges were going to be, she had signed up to help out, yet wasn't sure where they were. So we pass these boys and she's all "Hey you guys, you wanna race?" Meanwhile, I'm the only one rowing, so it's easy for her to say (Taurus, Sag Moon)! The older boy is all "Mm, no thanks, we better not." She's like, "Come on you wimps, there's two of you against us!" And the kid's like, "No, no thank you." We get past them and she goes "He must be a Pisces," then stands up and screams to the kid "Don't be such a Pisces!!!" So on our way back after I walk her through the woods to where the lodges are, we pass the boys again in the canoes. The one boy says, "How did you know I was a Pisces?" We started to laugh, and she goes "Because Pisces are so afraid of any kind of conflict," and we keep going. Yet the look on that boy's face was priceless, like, "How could that girl know me??" Devon was one of my most brilliant students, always so intuitive like that. Maybe that helps explain why he said that to you...yet if it were me...let's just say the opposition of Virgo and Pisces would be painfully clear

btw, Brad Pitt lives right around the corner from me...I see him and Jennifer driving around all the time, they drive a dark green Range Rover

Seasons Beatings,
Carlo

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posted December 12, 2002 04:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any man who follows Brad Pitt's whereabouts is how can I say, "not a straight arrow"

sorry Carlo, couldn't resist

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posted December 12, 2002 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fairy good one! Actually, I usually see him in my rear view mirror...yet not as often as I'd like


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posted December 12, 2002 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I got completely engrossed there in that whole conversation... battle of the sexes is right.
I feel though that I really must speak up and that truly and naturally being a Libran woman will get the last word in.
I am all air and all out there, this is the truth of it but I can tell u a secret about sex and everything on this earthly plane, whenever two things fuse together and the result of it is a non-compatible situation, that is entirely what it is non-compatible.
Virgos will have great sex with whomever they choose Carlo but it doesn't make you a lover because you can have good sex it makes you an nymph. A good lover is one who makes LOVE that is why a lover is named so.
And a lover who makes love does not get out the notepad and take dwon the details of the situation, analyse it and then mark it out of ten. Sex is not an exam and partners aren't waiting on their results unless they are in it as a sporting event.
Making love is something that must be developed if it doesn't happen immediately. It is as all life is an art to be refined.
True lovers know this, it is the art of fusion. If you're just in it to win it then play in a game show or take part in the Olympics.
This thread just sums up the ongoing battle, not of the sexes but of the egos.
And with men having egos the size of yours carlo... yes yes yes you win! Hands down.

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posted December 12, 2002 01:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Making love is something that must be developed if it doesn't happen immediately. It is as all life is an art to be refined.
True lovers know this, it is the art of fusion"

Awesome introspection Quinnie, I totally agree!

However, it's not often we have someone whom we actually get to "make love" to. And in the meanwhile it doesn't hurt you to be with someone whom you don't love, but have spectacular experiences with.

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