posted January 22, 2004 11:01 AM              

Saggies aren't all that patient with whiners to start with, but how do they feel about BEING the whiner? Well, in the case of a Cancer moon, they can't help it, but yet they can't tolerate it in others. That brings us to another Saggie pitfall. Hypocracy.

posted January 22, 2004 02:11 PM              

I'm glad you could relate to what I'm saying and that it helps you frame this in a way that helps you deal with it and move on...

Cancer Moon IS evil... I know because I have it and I've always cursed it. It seems to creates an interference in the air, fogging this up. Imagine if we had no Moon!

When I got to my 30's I was able to detach myself from my personal feelings so that I could see beyond my own nose. Some people will NEVER have the strength to do that. I suspect Sag with Cancer Moon is one of them. I know it is certainly true of a Cancer Sun with Sag Moon!!!

As for your friend: If you tell someone you don't like to be treated a certain way, and they continue to do it, THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL YOU.

I would re-evaluate this friendship and spare yourself!

with love & support,

.gloria

posted January 22, 2004 02:50 PM            

I think we need to first understand where they are coming from. First of all, it has to be difficult to be on an emotional rollar coaster and ride the moons tide. Secondly, they are like emotional sponges they FEEL everything, especially when they are not being understood or liked by us more aggressive types. Last of all, they are so worried about being hurt, that they put up this shell around their tender hearts that is covered in pricker bushes and sharp claws.

So, take that emotional moon and apply it to it's interaction with the Sun. I knew a Virgo with a Cancer moon, when he felt the rollar coaster dip down, he would come out with little critical remarks and the pity party. My mom, Cancer Sun / Cancer moon just cries, spazzes and then closes herself off. Capricorn stews in their own sadness and decides to hit the road even harder. Saggie, wallows in her grief and feels no one else cares.

I admire Cancer moons, but I feel sorry for them as well. My feelings are deep,but not like theirs, not at all. LOL.

Now, do I think Cancer people are mean? Nope, just self centered (self protective). No more that Aries, Capricorn or Libra...I mean, come on Cardinal signs...leader...HELLO!!!

Just like us Saggies are more self conscious...meaning conscious of ourselves, sometimes to the exclusion of others...and so on.

posted January 22, 2004 03:30 PM              

It has been made very clear to me that they (Cancer's) have such an extreme fear of being hurt and even more so rejected, that their defenses are on "power trigger" 24/7. So much so is this true, that even when there is absolutely no reason for them to become defensive and mean, they lash out consistently and often.

This regretfully poor choice in effort to protect themselves from being hurt and feeling and/or being rejected, ironically ends them up in the very same boat that they so dreadfully fear. In that people become so fed up with their Cancer's behavior that they end up telling them off and putting them in their place, and in extreme cases end up "leaving" them, which is THE Cancer's absolute deepest fear and biggest nightmare.

It seems that the Cancer lashing out and being mean is a subconcious mechanism enabled so that THEY can be the CAUSE of your rejection of them, rather than endure the painful possibility that you may eventually reject them of your own accord.

The only real thing that you can do about it (meaness) - and mind you at times you need the patience of a saint - is to wait out the long time it takes for the Cancer to finally find more security in your relationship and then you will see that the bouts of "meaness" will slowly subside over time.

posted February 04, 2004 09:01 PM              

now, I'm totally new to astrology, all I have is a day of googl`ing on all the subjects I could come up with...but basically I started it because I so hate the general descriptions about Cancers that most articles give - the caring, home nest attached souls. I am actually glad that we have a reputation for being mean.

The moods thing is true for me (but I have Mercury in Cancer as well, so I might just attribute it to that), but about the rest....no antiques or other objects layered with memories or history around me, i try to go home as little as possible (I moved out three years ago and homesickness is one thing i have to fake in front of my parents)...the list goes on. Some things are true, but there are so many things said that it's only probably that some will be true.

apropo what lioneye68 wrote:
"Actually, I work with a guy right now who I'm sure is a Cancer. He's so impatient, sarcastic, defensive, always brooding or pouting or calling someone an idiot, and describing in full detail just how much of an idiot they are."

This is me exactly on irc. I had some people in a channel read it and they said it was scary how it matched.

In short, i've been doing my best to be mean. Not necessarily in close relationships, just around, to stir up something interesting.

Umm, a question - is it of any importance if the degrees in the zodiac are almost exclusively close to the 0 and 30 (beginning and end?)

posted February 05, 2004 11:28 AM              

I would think the same logic applies to planets at the very beginning of a sign. They just recently evolved into that sign, and have many lessons to go before they move beyond it.

posted February 05, 2004 03:59 PM              

Umm...and I do like to get attention. My parents attribute those qualities of me to being the youngest child in the family and always fighting for some territory.

People on the outside do seem to see me as a nice person, but that is _really_ on the outside, so basically people I just know but never talked to much. Those who get to know me get to know my caring side (if i happen to care) after most of the other sides, so it works well for filtering and for avoiding some bad surprises.

I myself tend to be more attracted to people who can keep up with the confrontations.

LOL, i just found out that i have the same Sun, Moon, Mercury and Ascendant as Lady Di, but born on Camilla Parker Bowles' birthday. What a nasty combination!

posted February 05, 2004 04:06 PM            

I find Cancer people to be easy to figure out, maybe because my mother is a double Cancer and both of my parents have Cancer moons.

Mean people are not fun, especially mean people that try to be mean. I lose interest fast with people that constantly try to test and play games (Sag Sun / Aries Moon).

We ALL have a protective barrier around us and although I can seem like a happy go-lucky puppy - I am also very well protected inside. What I don't do is try to be mean just to "stir things up".

Remember the old phrase - you attract more flies with honey that with vinegar?

posted February 06, 2004 03:52 AM              

:::*CANCER*:::

I find him to be so grumpy.... but he would make a good father... he works with kids and acts like he's their father. The kids think he's mean, and they are scared of him. BUT THEY DO RESPECT HIM THATS FOR SURE!

I also find that he dosent stay mad long at least not with me. He also is very friendly and a flirt(with some ladies). And he has the softest hands lol awwww I got it bad I know.

Oh and I always catch him staring at me.... what does that mean???? And how can I bring out his sweeter side?

I would like to understand him more here's his chart..

posted February 06, 2004 01:33 PM              

Of all the Cancers, this is the one who is least likely to be a homebody. He's very social and speaks his mind. One of the most annoying things about him is he is set in his opinions early on.

He DOES have the temper, but it's part of his fire and goes away quickly.

He's good at problem-solving and helping people, although he likes to solves things quickly.

He's kind of "fast", so a girl who knows how to play the game, who can keep up with him, will be the one he stays with. Or else he'll stray, even though he had every intention of being faithful.

.gloria

posted February 06, 2004 09:03 PM              

Not all of us were meant to ride bareback...

.gloria

posted August 11, 2004 06:59 PM              

I suppose Malpisces would think my Cancer pal a horrible person - she does generally not like people, largely because she has a lot of experience with them and finds them to be usually quite stupid, mean and petty, and makes remarks to that effect. She also detests "breeders" - I can live with all of this because I feel the same way (seriously, some people just shouldn't breed!). However on the flipside of her cynicism, with is hysterical if you can roll with it, is that she's by and large one the most intelligent, compassionate, self-giving, fairminded and tolerant people I've ever known. She spent the 70's working for women and gay rights, and much of the 80's and early 90's as an AIDS careteam volunteer, until she herself was slowed down by health problems. So yeah, people might not like her barbs she likes to spew from time to time - probably because she does talk from experience - but few who'd take offense at her could say they're been as charitable as she has been in her life.

posted August 11, 2004 11:49 PM              

So my Cancer Moon is like the fly in the ointment, when you sit all my other planets together and look at the big picture.