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RegardesPlatero
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posted December 25, 2011 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank ya, glad to hear you do because I enjoy and learn from yours. Always intelligent.


awww, thanks! :-)

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posted December 26, 2011 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is birth info on Elizabeth Bathory.
(I read about her in a book)
People really thought she was a vampire.
"She is considered the most infamous serial killer in Hungarian and Slovak history. She spent the majority of her life at the Čachtice Castle. After her husband's death, she and her four alleged collaborators were accused of torturing and killing dozens of girls and young women. In 1611, she was imprisoned in Čachtice Castle, where she remained until her death three years later. Her nobility allowed her to avoid trial and execution. Three of her four alleged collaborators were put to death.

The Báthory case has inspired many stories, featuring the countess bathing in the blood of her victims in order to retain her youth. This inspired nicknames like the Blood Countess."
(from wiki)

Yep I read in a book that she was rumored to bathe in the blood of virgins so she would stay looking young and pretty.

Her time of birth is unknown...and this is what we get with the unknown time

Sun 14deg Leo
Moon 25deg Libra
Mercury 14deg Leo
Venus 27deg Cancer
Mars 12deg Leo
Jupiter 24deg Aries
Saturn 18deg Gemini
Uranus 16deg Scorpio
Neptune 0deg Gemini
Pluto 10 deg rx Pisces
Chiron 2deg rx Pisces
True Lilith rx Aries
N node 1deg Pisces

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Faith
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posted January 30, 2012 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Such a creepy, facinating thread!

WeirdPeter mentioned serial killer Gary Ridgeway. His ex-wife was featured in People magazine not too long ago. Curious, I looked his chart up and was amazed at how often the word "violent" came up in the interpretations (at cafeastrology.)

Random trivia: Suzanne White (The New Astrology, Chinese and Western) says that Josef Stalin was a Capricorn born in the year of the Cat/Hare. So am I. So I bought book about him to see if I had anything (yikes!) in common with him?

The first thing I learned is that he lied about his birthday. His actual birth records were recently found, and he was a Sagittarius Tiger.

FYI. No offense to Sag Tigers!

Damien Echols who was just released from prison, one of the Memphis Three...he is a Sag Tiger and I do believe he is innocent.

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What Astrology Can and Can Not Do http://www.ofspirit.com/susanmiller1.htm http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/whatastrologycandoforyou.html http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_kdvalue_e.htm

Perhaps you should read this thread entitled: astrology predicts meanings, not events http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17546&page=2

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bonadea33
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posted February 03, 2012 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have here Natal Charts from five serial killers born in five signs:

Charles Manson, Scorpio: http://tinypic.com/r/2mfcdmq/5

Jeffrey Dahmer, Gemini: http://tinypic.com/r/72bz0g/5

Ted Bundy, Sagittarius: http://tinypic.com/r/v5wkd1/5

Edward Gein, Virgo: http://tinypic.com/r/2ntjslg/5

Henri Landru (French), Aries: http://tinypic.com/r/5l5c0p/5

What they have in common?

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p.s. Source: Astrodata Bank
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posted February 03, 2012 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost all of us know for the first three killers.

Here are more informations about other two:

Edward (Ed) Gein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

Henri Desire Landru: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Désiré_Landru

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posted February 05, 2012 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can find criminals nearly in any sign !
and a sign having a high rate of criminals, might be a coincidence ?

I think mars aspects affect this.

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Alma Sun
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posted April 01, 2012 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so too, vicky.

http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2011/06/general-observations-murder-and.html

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In the past the charts of murderers and their victims used to be a powerful draw in my studies, and it was something I wanted to understand more about. In this particular horoscope (B.T.K killer) it is interesting to see Pisces planets (victim, and self-defeatist), along with Mars-Pluto in the same chart. One part of the personality is quite sensitive, weak, impressionable, but Mars-Pluto has a powerful will, pursuing what they want passionately and relentlessly until they have achieved it. I can see how the weak, victimised side of Pisces was placed onto his victims. Mars-Pluto has a killer instinct, and in a normal individual’s chart it could signify someone driven in politics like the Iron Lady, Margaret Thatcher. The first leading lady needed such a competitive drive in a male dominated profession, but she ended up being the most hated woman in Britain, and according to my parent’s, these feelings were justified. We also see Mars-Pluto aspects in the charts of sports people, or those involved in other highly competitive jobs. This is not an aspect that is fond of being perceived as weak, either. Mars-Pluto has enormous energy at their disposal, but it needs to be directed constructively. Mars-Pluto may become obsessive and compulsive, and it quite often indicates power-struggles in early life, with some dominance/submissiveness themes. The B.T.K killer would get sexually excited by the look of terror in his victim’s eyes as they were choking to death, and pleading for their life.

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Some of the aspects which have been indicated for a potentially violent personality are Mars-Saturn, Mars-Neptune, Mars-Chiron, and Mars Pluto. It doesn't leave many Mars aspects left. All this murder talk leaves us slightly on edge about other human beings and what they are capable of. I hate the idea that another individual decides whether you should live or die. I also remember seeing the chart of an anti-abortionist activist; he had Sun trine Jupiter and worked for the church (Jupiter). However, his very strong feelings about abortion eventually led to killing abortion workers. He also had a Mars-Pluto aspect, and Mars was in Scorpio, so there was a need for justice on the Scorpio level, which is different to the type of justice we see on the Librian level, where everything is very civil. Scorpio believes in an eye for an eye.


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posted April 01, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.com/2011/07/dark-of-soul-psychopathology-in.html

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A lack of remorse is considered the most important characteristic on the list, and she explains that psychopaths do not act out of vengeance, but there is often a displaced vengeance at work. Remorse is usually linked with the ability to feel what another person feels. Greene believes it is this blankness and inner void, which is so terrifying. She also makes the point about the elements, and says that having a strong water chart does not always indicate that you are an empathetic person, and does not describe if we have the ability to feel. Water dominates many of the psychopathic charts, and another surprising connection to psychopaths is made to a strong Venus is in the horoscope, and this is linked with a need to be social, liked, feel pleasure, and relationships are often critical for these people, but if something else in the chart suggest rejection and humiliation, things turn disturbing.


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posted April 01, 2012 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to FBI.gov, Cancer males are the sign most likely to be booked, with Taurus in second place: http://www.articlesnatch.com/Article/The-Relation ship-Between-Serial-Killer-s-Criminal-Behavior-And-Their-Zodiac-Signs/561115


and according to this study with a sample size of 60,000, Scorpios were the most likely to "cause the death of another person": http://ezinearticles.com/?Astrology-and-Suicide---Your-Sign-May-Influence-You r-Choices&id=4095141

The dangers of letting one's emotions get the best of them

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posted April 01, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The Cancers are usually known for being mostly passion killers. They kill multiple times and they leave some kind of markings on their victims bodies to distinguish themselves. These kinds of killers are usually thought to be mentally unstable.

The Taurus usually involve themselves in money laundering, they are clever and they do most of their crime in solitude as long as they do not get hurt in the process.

Sagittarius are con artists, robbers and thieves, they do not in most cases hurt their victims, that is unless they get what they need.

Aries are usually hired to do their crimes. Capricorns are mostly involved in organized crime; they are rated as being more sadistic than Scorpio. Virgos are burglars and hackers. Libras are usually corrupt people. Pisces are mostly in drugs related crime.

Geminis do not take things seriously; they are con artists and thieves. Leos usually are in crime for the sole reason of getting recognition; they do not get in petty crime. Scorpios are contract killers. Aquarius are hackers and hustlers, also con artists, involved mainly in manipulation. All the crimes committed have been substantiated in that each Zodiac sign tends to have the same occurrences."

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posted May 01, 2012 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by calwes:
I would like to know which sign has the most criminals?

Dunno, but do you know why some people choose this path? Criminals are usually people who in their past lives where killed before they reached their maturity. Yes, usually children. Unevolved souls who reincarnated to take revenge. On whom? On everyone because they died without knowing their killer. When we reincarnate to make someone pay us a debt, our soul is mature etc and he knows where to go. With babies, they dont know and choose to seek blindly their killer taking revenge on everyone.

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posted May 03, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Dunno, but do you know why some people choose this path? Criminals are usually people who in their past lives where killed before they reached their maturity. Yes, usually children. Unevolved souls who reincarnated to take revenge. On whom? On everyone because they died without knowing their killer. When we reincarnate to make someone pay us a debt, our soul is mature etc and he knows where to go. With babies, they dont know and choose to seek blindly their killer taking revenge on everyone.


Fascinating.

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posted May 03, 2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Fascinating.


Sarcasm? If yes, keep it for you. I don't need it.

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posted May 03, 2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sarcasm? If yes, keep it for you. I don't need it.

No actually I don't know why you would think I am being sarcastic. I think that is fascinating. I'm sorry if this offends you. Perhaps there is a language barrier or something.

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posted May 04, 2012 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
No actually I don't know why you would think I am being sarcastic. I think that is fascinating. I'm sorry if this offends you. Perhaps there is a language barrier or something.


Perhaps. No worries.

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posted May 06, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for musiccabin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uranus brings about a lot of nervous energy and tend to be an extremist. i imagine someone with an afflicted fire energy towards midheaven, plus an influence of uranus would be a 'great' candidate! :)

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posted May 14, 2012 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Despina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A very interesting thread! An abusive ex of mine was an aquarius with a mars/saturn/pluto conjunction in libra. After fleeing and getting myself a safety order my astrologer informed me that mars/saturn, mars/pluto, or saturn/pluto in and of themselves can be quite positive, but all three together is generally a red flag. He pointed me to a book which simply defined the placement "Murderer". To be quite honest, that interpretation didn't surprise me one bit on the back of what I'd been through.

As such, I wouldn't start boarding up my windows on the basis that I have someone with one wayward aspect living next door, let alone on the basis of their sun sign. I myself have mars conjunct uranus (I believe it was listed somewhere above!). While I have been known to engage in reckless behaviour occasionally (I party hard, I like dirt bikes, and am not adverse to heading to the firing range to let off some steam), I'm no criminal.

However, I do find the concept of an unbalanced chart intriguing, particularly when it involves Neptune, as Pidaua was saying. I have a work colleague with a Sun/Venus/Neptune conjunction in sagg, who is generally perceived as a really nice guy. That's what I thought until he started making moves on me. When I didn't return his feelings he got quite bitter and aggressive. I almost quit as a result of his continuous harassment. Being so perturbed by his behaviour I deleted his birth chart, but if I remember correctly he had moon conjunct pluto in scorpio forming a T-square with saturn and mars. It was as though once his dreams/illusions (sun/venus/neptune) were shattered, a whole other side of his personality reared its ugly head. And as I'm guessing happens with most repressed aspects of the personality, when they eventually come up to the surface its with enough force to shake the earth.

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posted May 16, 2012 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WorldsBestDad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually had this same question a while back. I can't find any consistencies with the results but a few notorious serial killers are.......

John Wayne Gacy - Pisces
Richard Ramirez - Pisces
Charles Cullen - Pisces
Shirley Winters - Pisces
Evril Morrell - Pisces
Ivan Milat - Capricorn
Cliff Olson - Capricorn
Marcel Petiot - Capricorn
George Joseph Smith - Capricorn

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posted August 06, 2012 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio hands down

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posted August 06, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That stuff about rape not being about sex is the same as the baloney about there being no black serial killers. There have been numerous. Not all of them are cruel or sadistic or hate their mother. There are rapists, a lot of them, especially young ones, that do it for sex and because they actually believe that she will fall in love with them. That's more common than you think. This myth keeps getting propogated for some reason. There are ALL kinds of rapists with all different motivations and all kinds of victims.
About the Capricorn...it's funny that's supposed to be the most common sign for cops. You know what they say about the fine line...
I have known one Capricorn that it wouldn't surprise me a bit to see him in the news as a serial killer or rapist and he's an Oxford alum.

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