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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 10:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi -

I know what your saying about it maybe being a bad move - I'm not pushing her away though, in that sense - I'm just sort of trying to be patient and wait until she wants to open up a little - if she will - scorpio moon and Venus aqua tend to like inner privacy?

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GemStar
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posted February 13, 2005 10:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL...6500mi...a hop, skip and a jump away!!

Ok-back to the flower...actually it was a Calla lily...an orchid is awfully close though! Yes, rose was too obvious...and I did not ask the color...I think the test was just for the flower only, not specifying to colour. Good job!

We didn't do too badly for 11,000 kilometres away! (or nearabouts?)...You know we Americans looooove the metric system! Not. Ha,ha....

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lily was there - honest but thought no - goofed there then.

Was going to go for a pale golden creamy colour but you'll prob turn round and say blue now - HA HA

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GemStar
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posted February 13, 2005 10:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha,ha...well, actually it was white-yet leaning towards a creamy blend! Great!

I understand what Sthenri is saying but I didn't get the vibe you were torturing yourself...just trying to seek the truth of sorts.

Some people are never happy with where they are at and who they are with...so swimming around is a natural movement for them to do.(Not saying that about your gf necessarily).

I have taken your thoughts more like you are sensing some doubts on your side or hers...and just wondering how to interpret these feelings. Deep waters ARE where you both like to swim...and there is more than one deep ocean to swim in and choose from...but you want someone who wants YOUR deep waters...someone who wants You. Right?

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 10:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GemStar -

Now I should just not respond to you? because you know the reply to that???

Your very right - yes on all counts and I'm thoroughly impressed with your ability to hit the nail on the head as it were

BTW - pale white was there too??? ha ha

maybe we should start a thread on telepathy?

It's the Pluto Venus contacts I don't like - My Pluto opposses her Sun Her Pluto opposses my Venus - Very powerful. Attraction yes - lots, couple that with the Sun/Venus link and hey presto - attraction, but she has the ability to hurt me emotionally with Pluto against my Venus whereas I have the ability to hurt her whole self of being with my Pluto against her Sun and both Pluto's are in analytical Virgo - cuts deep!!!

Have to use those forces very carefully


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GemStar
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posted February 13, 2005 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know what you mean with the Venus-Pluto contacts...I have my Venus sq my love's Pluto and while I LOVE the attraction and heat, I emotionally can feel a bit out of control. However, we also have his Moon opposed my Pluto. I wonder if that balances out the obsession parts? I am REALLY careful there because I think my influence over his emotions is great-do you think?

I think you are having a transit Pluto square natal Venus transit right now...that may be why are you having feelings of doubt and such. Do you ever look at your transits? I am just learning about them and find the subject fascinating!

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GemStar
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posted February 13, 2005 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto Transits in Aspect to Natal Venus:

Pluto intensifies everything it touches. Hopefully, you will have a decent relationship going when this one hits. If you don’t have any, then this could be a frustrating period because this tends to increase your sex drive. A lot. Pluto rules the deep subconscious and all your inner desires, frustrations, and hang-ups start to come to the surface during the stressful transiting aspects. This time, they can affect your love life. Pluto can’t stand anything shallow. It wants depth and intensity. Even obsession. If you have a stressful aspect, watch out for power struggles. Your partners may try to dominate or manipulate you during this time. You might try to do the same to them. If you are an artist or work at something creative, you will start to feel a need to produce something more significant, more intense. Go with that feeling. The smooth aspects (sextile and trine) tend to produce the intensity without most of the stress. Don’t forget to look at the House that Venus occupies in you birth chart. If it is in your 4th House, for instance, this transit may manifest as a desire to fix up your house, or even to move. Also, check the houses that have either Libra or Taurus on the cusp (beginning). They can be affected as well. For example, if you have Libra on the cusp of the 9th House (long journeys and higher education) you may have a desire to travel to some far-off, exotic, and mysterious place. Or you could want to take an art course. Several of these could manifest at once.

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very true about the effect you could have over his emotions - does he ever feel you are digging into his private inner world at times?? maybe feeling threatened or being forced to open up, without any real understanding why?


I know Pluto is trining my ascendant at he moment - has just come into play and will be around for a good year 18 months to come!!! great! Pluto is also just conjunct her ascendant now also and the same, for the next 18 months.

She has over the past two years or so gone through a marriage break up - loss of friends etc.. and is trying to re-establish her self - but that is a classic transit of Pluto through the tenth, eleventh and twelth houses - The structure - male/father figure falling apart (tenth house) The loss of friends and aquaintences (eleventh house) Deeply emotional subjects, death - re-birth of life as you know it (twelth house) as it crosses her ascendant and enters her first house, she will be re-born in that sense? start again new directions etc... maybe new people?

Don't know where I fit in there, now - bizare

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wrong one??

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 11:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this work [img]C:\Documents and Settings\viberta\Desktop\imageNYE.JPG[/img]

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That'll be a no then!!! oh well

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GemStar
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posted February 13, 2005 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember he is Pisces Asc and Pisces Moon...

Yes, he will tell you that I know more about him than people he has known his whole life. I have known him for 3 years. He is EXTREMELY private and seems to have a difficult time with his emotions. (Mars in Cancer). I think I may make him feel vulnerable with his emotions but he is slowly learning to trust me and open up...it has taken quite some time.

He 'hides' so much behind a facade of "No big deal..." I laughed when you stated on another thread that even when you (viper) say such a thing, you are really freaking out inside. It never shows....however, I can 'hear' it in his voice...and then he will scuttle off when he feels too exposed. I try not to be too intrusive but I think my overall influence makes him think a lot! I will make statements about a certain belief, using certain key words...then a few weeks later, he will state the same comment, using nearly the same verbage back to me as if it was his own thought...mirroring of sorts.

I know that Pisces does not like to look at reality full on...so I try to be aware of how I communicate when I need him to know something. Usually, he will go off and think about thoughts in his quiet world-especially if I am verbally demonstrative of my love...he gets gently quiet and just soaks it in it seems. I want to crawl in there and peek so badly!! His Mercury squares his moon...does that have something to do with having difficulty stating his emotions?

I do somewhat force him to open up. He always acts surprised when I ask a question about his feelings on a subject or questions from his childhood. He NEVER talks with people about himself...only superficially..always having that protective wall up of sorts...My Scorp Rising can make me a bit overwhelming at times, but in a sensitive (Cancer Moon) kind of way. (At least I think so).

Back to you...I will look at her transits closer...write me in the meantime!
Tell me more about my Pluto opp his Moon...I want to know that I move him deeply...

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GemStar
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posted February 13, 2005 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not sure how to post a JPEG...I know that a few people here have done it-Astrojunkie is a pro at all kinds of neat things...her graphics are the Best! Sorry I couldn't help on that front...computer illiterate to say the least-that's moi!

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viper
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posted February 13, 2005 07:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[img] link [/img] I think.
Have tried myself - but same for me - no go

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aries-chick
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posted February 13, 2005 09:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey to both of you ..

GemStar and Viper sitting in a tree.. K I hehe na I'm just jk

I was in a similar situation (star-sign wise), Viper.. the first guy I ever really liked was a Pisces/Pisces moon.. Aries Venus, Mercury and Taurus Mars. We had a Venus/Mars conj (my venus, his mars).. My Venus was opposed his Pluto and his Mars was opposed mine. Also his Mars was trine my Neptune and my Mars conjunct his Neptune. AND lol, reason why i posted this, we also had his Venus conjunct my Sun (though a fairly large orb) It was such an instant attraction with him.

With your girl.. if she is with you, then she loves you and she must've broken up with her ex for a reason. If it was all peaches and cream, they wouldnt've broken up. Pisces - Pisces does work out well sometimes. I know of a Pisces lady married to a Pisces and it's lasted 5 years so far. You sound like you love her lots and I'm sure she appreciates that and besides you're so sweet lol who could ever leave you?

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GemStar
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posted February 14, 2005 06:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

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viper
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posted February 14, 2005 06:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks aries-chick

Why do you think I'm sweet?

not complaining

Morning Gem!

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GemStar
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posted February 14, 2005 08:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Morning Viper-man!! LOL

Are you fishing viper?? Pisces always likes those compliments and finds ways to hear them again!! I KNOW that trick!! Ha,ha...my guy does it all the time! Hee,hee

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY EVERYONE!!

I just returned from dropping off a surprise gift at my sweetness's office...he will LOVE it! I enjoy writing little love notes and finding personal and meaningful gifts for him...Today's theme is "Heart of Gold". In the note I wrote of his heart of gold and I reminded him of how special he is-that he is my most precious treasure! I hope he likes my thoughts!!

Viper-How's it going? What happened to our Aussie newbie on the other thread?? Hope you and your sweetie have a special day...Is Valentine's celebrated there as commercially as it is here??

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viper
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posted February 14, 2005 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

In truth - no - not fishing, just curious to know why someone would think that - but is nice

I checked in with qudsielf earlier - haven't heard anything yet though - that is really funny_ wasn't following you - honest, must be one of those, great minds think alike, type things Ha ha

Yeah Valentine's is a big commercial scam over here too - your gift to you guy sounds really cool - he'll love it, I bet.

Miss fish is out of sorts today, so nothing romantic going on there - Oh well.

Have fun

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GemStar
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posted February 14, 2005 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Viper..you know I am just kidding about the fishing trip....ha,ha! You are too funny sometimes! You seem like a nice chap and it comes across in your writing...that's probably what she is picking up! All good things!

Sorry to hear about Miss Fish...not to worry though...every day can be like Valentine's Day and we don't need commercialism to tell us when to express our love to one another-Right?? So...you just will celebrate on another happier day!

Have a splendid day in the meantime...send out your love to all those who feel unloved in some way...especially those who push us away-they may need it the most....

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GemStar
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posted February 14, 2005 09:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey aries-chick...Happy Valentine's Day! You are also too funny! Viper and I were just having a great time yesterday....I wondered why not many joined in on our fun!

Hope you have a Beautiful and Loving day as well!


GemStar

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viper
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posted February 14, 2005 09:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I;m winning - I'm winning - I got four posts in a row

Ha ha - Hi to all - - 4 post in a row,4 post in a row,4 post in a row,4 post in a row,

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aries-chick
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posted February 14, 2005 09:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol you're winning, you're winning in a NO win situation

Thank you Gemstar - you're funnier - HAPPY VALENTINES to you to and Viper

and actually

HAPPY VALENTINES Every1
Hope you all have a great day with your sweetie !!!

my Valentines is kinda over..its the 15th here, talk about time diff lol I got home not long ago.. it's been a nice day

Viper, just like Gem said it comes accross in the things you write. "In love" and romantic equals sweet to me and you're both of those things. You just seem like a nice guy.


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viper
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posted February 14, 2005 09:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you're winning, you're winning in a NO win situation ---- Ha Ha Ha - your a star aries-chick - I never even noticed that!! Ha LOL

Thankyou for your nice words - and all the way from Auz and all

The next day - that's fantastic - do you get like todays winning lottery numbers, like yesterday? or would that be tomorrow? Ha Ha

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aries-chick
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posted February 14, 2005 09:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehehe k that last one confused me - its 1 am

tomorrow, yesterday, today - potato puhtato lol No such thing as time, so really its always Valentines..

lol Viper, I don't make sense when I'm tired

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