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Topic: Do you believe in God?
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thosa
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posted February 14, 2005 11:53 AM
 
Hi,after seeing the topic "I'm leaving", which was about a member of this board losing his faith in astrology, I thought....do any of u ppl believe in God? And do u use astrology on a religious level? Please, give me some juicy answers, cuz I'm really curios.  IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2005 12:01 PM
To me, the question, "Is there a God?"
has always seemed like a trick question.My response: What else could there be? "God is and is not." - the Upanishads "God is known by 'His' absence.
Don't we all feel this presence?
Who said there are no contradictions?
He only spoke half-truths."
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Mama Mia
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posted February 14, 2005 12:03 PM
hey there I just posted on that subject ending my post on the exact thing that you are asking. I under no circumstances use astrolgy to determine my future, I use astrolgy to find the essence of a person. GOD and only GOD can determine my future. When things get out of control and alot of the times things do not have to be out of control I turn to GOD. IP: Logged |
thosa
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posted February 14, 2005 12:05 PM
MAMA MIA! I like your way of thinking!hey there I just posted on that subject ending my post on the exact thing that you are asking. I under no circumstances use astrolgy to determine my future, I use astrolgy to find the essence of a person. GOD and only GOD can determine my future. When things get out of control and alot of the times things do not have to be out of control I turn to GOD. I feel the exact same way  IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 14, 2005 12:06 PM
i'm not going deeply into this, but to answer your question, I don't believe in God, and I don't use astrology on a religious level - only practical. I seem to be one of the rare ones who got into astrology without picking up any of the new age stuff along with it. IP: Logged |
maya-v
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posted February 14, 2005 12:11 PM
Sure, of course I believe in God but the more important question is - How do we percieve God? Does He exist in the familiar safety of Religion? Does He exist in the beauty and tenacity of human virtues like kindness and compassion? Or does He exist in the miracles of everyday life - birth, death, revival and rebirth?I think the more root question here would be if you believe in yourself, if you are strong enough to really believe in what you know inside to be the truth abt God and His existence. And more importantly, if you are ready, at the most trying times, to admit how much you believe in that special personal miracle and at the same time, how much you need it everyday, just to sustain. IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2005 12:24 PM
"All is true." - Bill ShakespeareIP: Logged |
Mama Mia
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posted February 14, 2005 12:24 PM
Here is the thing When GOD is the head of your life he exist in everything that is about you and everything that you do. He makes no mistakes. So when a lover leaves yes I am hurt but I had put it in GODS hands already and I let him handle it. Do I want to put my hands on it yes, but he knows what is better for me then I do. He is a jealous GOD if you put things and ppl in front of him things will start to shake in your world. I think the hard thing is to surrender your all to him. Seek ye first the kingdom of GOD and all his righthness and all these things shall be added. I beleve that with all my heart. I can go on and on with this but I won't. When things get really hard or not I can always go to the rock and that sets me straight. IP: Logged |
maya-v
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posted February 14, 2005 12:40 PM
First name basis, Steve ... 'Bill' ... !!!???  IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted February 14, 2005 12:41 PM
I cannot express what God means.. it isn't words, it is a feeling. It isn't the token...~The only way to heaven is to say "I accept that Jesus died for our sins."
To me, that is a small answer, when the concept is larger than you or I yet simpler than words.......
So I can't say yes or no, as my answers fail me, but the good thing about that is God understands what I mean.... people don't have to.IP: Logged |
key
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posted February 14, 2005 01:21 PM
No, I do not believe in god, and I especially do not like religion - of any kind. It separates people, and causes alienation/wars/problems. I believe in nature - the sun, the moon, the stars, the grass - and genetics. I am glad for those who find peace in their belief in god / and or religion. Just keep it to yourself, and please don't try to convert the world. Astrology? It is fun - seems like the location of the planets at birth would have some kind of impact. On the other hand, most of the interpretations would fit just about anyone. You can read anything into them - take them positively or negatively. Basically, people look to religion and astrology to help with problems and decision-making in their lives. That is the hook. If you need it - and if it helps - that is a good thing. Regards,
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Mama Mia
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posted February 14, 2005 01:26 PM
oooooohhhhhhh how scarey!!!!!IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted February 14, 2005 01:52 PM
The Most Natural Prayer
The experience of losing your faith, or of having lost it, is an experience that in the long run belongs to faith; or at least it can belong to faith if faith is still valuable to you, and it must be or you would not have written me about this. I don’t know how the kind of faith required of a Christian living in the 20th century can be at all if it is not grounded on this experience that you are having right now of unbelief. “Lord, I believe; help my unbelief” is the most natural and most human and most agonizing prayer in the gospels, and I think it is the foundation prayer of faith.
- Flannery O'Connor ------------------
HANG IN THERE :cross: IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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posted February 14, 2005 02:18 PM
I definately don't believe in religion, that's for sure. To me, religion is a load of bullcrap. Too many contradictions.. nothing is explained on a literal sense and the only thing leading you is blind faith. I could go into this very deeply because I have a lot of issues and questions revolving around religion... Not that I am in any way trying to offend people who choose to live their lives this way- I'm not trying to start a fight. I don't suppose I believe in God either... I'm too much of a science believer.. maybe this is just my cold Virgo logic here telling me that I need everything analyzed and explained. How can I possibly follow something without enough proof?? (BTW- again, I'm not trying to argue... I just don't trust in the 'magic and power of God' all around me or anything..)
On the other hand (I'm starting to sound like a Libra now...) 'm not one of those 'well, if God exists how come there is so much suffering in the world' types either... that is a stupid arguement because on the 'for' case for God, you could say.. 'well, how do you know there aren't lots of terrible things that God has stopped already that you don't know about because he's stopped them?' Ahhh... brain fuzz....................
In short, no, I guess I don't believe in God. But it's not God I have a problem with.. it's stupid hypocites who think they're religious when they don't know crap all about religion.... they are people with empty lives....... people who criticise other people's beliefs (ie. Paganism... astrology) claiming that they're not proper religions just because they know they can't get done for racism for slagging it off- because it's not 'official'...
grrr...... stupid teacher at my school.... god, I hate her.... IP: Logged |
amisha121877
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posted February 14, 2005 02:19 PM
Do I believe in God, that’s a good question. You know how, if you have a (-) side of a battery pointed at a (+) side of a battery, they will attract each other. As with if you have a (-) side of a battery pointed at a (-) side of a battery, they will repel. Well, as far as God, what’s turning the battery, what has pointed those particular sides at one another – that’s the force I liken to God. The hand that turns those batteries. I continue to use the name God because for most of my life – that’s the name I’ve heard and used - I could have used Bob or Cindy. What I understand of God I’ve created an understanding for myself led by meaning, what God means to me, I’ve created an understanding for myself led by meaning - so there is a personal connection in that. God is usually the someone/something that breaks a secret I have, desires I have, the things I've asked for and forgotten, is much more powerful than my biggest fear and the icing to the best gift, etc., etc………. Astrology, I feel, helps to understand why it is that I have (the battery) been turned but astrology be damned or not, it will be turned or maybe it won’t be. For EVERYTHING there IS a season/reason. THE KEY POINT IS I HAVE MY OWN MEANING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS......my own meaning. My views are a bit more in-depth than all of this but for now, that's my response and I absolutely don't go for criticizing/belittling someone else's view nor do I think I will speak on this again, here. whatever will get you up in the morn and asleep at night.IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted February 14, 2005 03:06 PM
I thank God I wasnt brought up going to church or in a religious household. I was free to find God on my own. And he was never lost, I knew him well even though I knew nothing about him. I dont like labeling things. My religion is being. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted February 14, 2005 03:45 PM
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To say that you don't believe in God is like the toaster saying it doesn't believe in electricity, while it's burning the toast
Religion is bad.
God is good. Luckily, God is patient and knows exactly why and how it is that some of us need it, and some of us don't. If a religion were to truly be successful, it would render itself unnecessary, and unfortunately they can't allow that to happen, lest their organization would cease to exist. Religion is mearly an age old fight about "being right". Very UNGodly, if you ask me. IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus
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posted February 14, 2005 03:51 PM
" To say that you don't believe in God is like the toaster saying it doesn't believe in electricity"Annnnnnnnd...intolerance of others beliefs strikes LL today. IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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posted February 14, 2005 03:52 PM
Ah.... sorry how I trailed of at the end of my last post... I had to go for dinner... what I meant, was that at our school, there is a completely ANNOYING teacher who is a total and utter bible-belter (no offense intended.. I just mean she goes on a bit)... but I have a perfectly good reason not to like her, because however much she goes on about "another quote from my favourite book" she seems not to understand that Christinanity is supposedly about tolerence and understanding or so says 'her favourite book'. Our school has this rule, see, that you can't wear a necklace unless it has a religious symbol on the end... my friend just happens to be a wiccan and therefore a pagan and she wore a pentacle on her necklace which this b*tch teachers made her take off! Apparently because it's not a real religion. If that's not religion-ist (whatever its called), I don't know what is... she was blantantly denying the credence of another religion!!! The only reason she thought she could get away with it because she knew she couldn't get done for it because it's not as important as Christianity or anything to do with another race or nationality.
GHRRRRRR... this makes me so mad!IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted February 14, 2005 04:37 PM
Sorry, didn't mean to sound intolerant. I just like that toaster analogy. Another poster said that a long long time ago, and I just think it's cute.I don't mind that you don't believe in God, VTT. It is of no consequence to anybody but you. I still like you.  IP: Logged |
SunChild
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posted February 14, 2005 05:05 PM
The GOD queston..
I've never even asked myself!
I wonder what I think about it, lets see.
I think it's relative. Thee perception of the individual will either make God believable or unbelievable, each person who believes in God see's it in a unique way.
I also feel, at this time, there are hardly any of us who would have the same answer, and I feel none of us would reach the same perception of God as another would.The belief in God is sacred to the individual, you seek out your answer in silence, on your own.
God is..... I would never say. I just know what I know, and that is being. In the Buddhist teachings, it has always been said that the Buddha himself, when asked this question, would immediately change the subject. He said it is of no importance right now. I have too much love and respect for you to define such.
What you find along the path is important, Being is important, and so is silence. Most of what Buddha discovered in silence was never spoken about, he has faith that each and every one of us will one day discover, in silence, Truth.  ------------------
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lioneye68
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posted February 14, 2005 05:26 PM
".....each and every one of us will one day discover, in silence, Truth."This Saggie rising, Jupiter in the 9th was absolutely moved by that line. * sniff-sniff * That's beautiful, man! (voice crackling)
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SunChild
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posted February 14, 2005 05:34 PM
lioneye  glad to move you! I can relate to the sniffles and crackles, I'm a sicki this morning, no work today! YAY. ------------------
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viper
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posted February 14, 2005 05:56 PM
Well happy valentine's one and all - he says sitting at his computer, eating pizza, at 10.35 pm on the evening of the 14th of Feb' 2005 - LOL ha haDo you believe in GOD??? How about we ask - do you believe in LOVE?? else why are most of us here? - we need to believe that somewhere - at some point we will or have found the love of our lives - the other part of ourselves which we can merge with and give to and in return gain support and validation of our existence from!!! most threads on this expansive forum all return to or stem from the basic desire to locate - understand or varify the presence of such within each of our own lives -= as we know them - right now - on this plane!! So think about it?? does not the belief of their being a GOD - whether it be the christian, muslim, hindu,budhist,arabic,catholic,jewish etc... etc...
version of this 'individual' !! not equate to the same desire of wanting to consider if not believe that there is something higher than oneself - an all seeing all giving - all LOVING presence which is looking after us and will, at some point in time join us????
So-
who believes in love??
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pixelpixie
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posted February 14, 2005 05:56 PM
Sunchild~
My answer...."I cannot express what God means.. it isn't words, it is a feeling. It isn't the token...~The only way to heaven is to say "I accept that Jesus died for our sins."
To me, that is a small answer, when the concept is larger than you or I yet simpler than words.......
So I can't say yes or no, as my answers fail me, but the good thing about that is God understands what I mean.... people don't have to."Your answer.... quote:
............The belief in God is sacred to the individual, you seek out your answer in silence, on your own.
God is..... I would never say. I just know what I know, and that is being.In the Buddhist teachings, it has always been said that the Buddha himself, when asked this question, would immediately change the subject. He said it is of no importance right now. I have too much love and respect for you to define such.
What you find along the path is important, Being is important, and so is silence. Most of what Buddha discovered in silence was never spoken about, he has faith that each and every one of us will one day discover, in silence, Truth.
Thank you for saying that better than I could.....
EXACTLY!!!!!!
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