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Topic: Strong Pluto seeking other Strong Plutonians..does that make sense?
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astro junkie
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posted February 26, 2005 12:01 PM
 
My Descendent is Ruled by Pluto - There is definitely a Scorpion-like quality to the people I'm attracted to, but not necessarily (in fact rarely) do they have any Planets in Scorpio.And of course, I've got Mercury, Mars & Neptune in Scorpio, so people usually guess I'm a Scorpio FIRST, (although I'm a Libra). Also have - Mercury Sextile Pluto
Venus Conjunction Pluto
Neptune Sextile Pluto So the Venus & Neptune Aspects to Pluto especially, make that intensity we seek even more important to me. And I need to comment. The Pluto-type intensity we seek is NOT the same as "emotional" or "feeling" people. That doesn't necessarily make them "intense", or more importantly, CAPABLE OF HANDLING intensity in life or in people. People who are very very left-brained people seem empty to me, and I find myself feeling sad for them, as if a part of their soul is missing or something. Like, I feel bad for them for not being able to experience all the hues of intensity in life. However, I have no respect for actions based on pure intensity without any love of reasoning backing it up. So it's a need for that intensity, but moreso because of all the richness it can potentially deliver (or that they can potentially identify in beauties like us!) ------------------
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pidaua
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posted February 26, 2005 12:49 PM
Hey AJ!!! How are you? Thank you for the nice things you said on the other thread. You're the best. I would think with your Venus-Pluto energy you attract very sensual and intense people. Do you find that people "HAVE" to have you? Do people become obsessed with you easily? You're encounters must be very magnetic. With all those Scorp planets / DSC AND that Venus Pluto aspect- I can see you being quite Plutonian.  IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted February 26, 2005 02:42 PM
Thanks, I was curious and I replied in that thread. Those Aqua men! They have interfered in more of my relationships than I can count! I am so glad for you, with me, the problem is that both of us usually start up with other people right away, causing jealousy to roar up which hurts too much.
Your Pisces is a good one.Natasha
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astro junkie
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posted March 01, 2005 10:46 AM
I'm glad you brought that up Natasha, about moving on too quickly with the next "thing" and making the ex jealous. I've learned that lesson. And I mean, since way way back because as Pidaua is now realizing, I do attract that "have to have you" thang, and it ain't pretty.So ...
Me no need start me rift when already the force to be reckoned with mon. But this is a subject that is still so interesting to me, and it's mystery is never quite known. I've said before, I've been blessed by having met amazing, intelligent, beautiful people. You'd think my Moon in Cancer, or Saturn in Capricorn would have found a way to "own" that by now. But the universe is so full and curious. Me gets distracted.
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raaz999
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posted March 01, 2005 11:20 AM
Hi everyone,I am new to astrology, so don't know much about it. But I am sure Pluto does affect your emotional state. I have my Pluto in conjunction with moon in Libra in the 11th house. I am definitely very intensely moved at times. It is so compulsive. I feel I have lost myself. It is so irratic and uncomprehensible at times esp since I have sun in Cap. I also have my sun and venus both squaring my Pluto. Somehow I am always in some kind of emotional turmoil (as I am at this point in my life). There have been many such phases in my life and it always seems to eclipse my career, probably that is why I haven't got any as yet. My relationships rule me at times and most of my decisions are emotion-driven but at the same I can be quite cold, distant and practical. Does that sound very irratic? I wonder..... IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted March 01, 2005 12:54 PM
 I don't know where any of us have gotten the idea that humans need to achieve a static state. Embrace and work with your challenges. You'll be much more tolerant of others in return. IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted March 01, 2005 03:07 PM
AJ it never fails to amaze me why people move forward instead of back, and say well, I got into my next relationship because the last one didn't have what I needed, and so the next one will because...it's the next one? Why not go back and start again with what's wrong, like..yourself?
As in go back to the original person you are angry at and talk to that person instead of making someone elses life miserable,I have to say what air signs I know do this, thereby forcing a commitment, it always leads to bad feelings, as that force as you described it is the anger of a played out player. That is why I cannot commit to an air sign anymore, unless it's right for me, no pressure. Natasha
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posted March 05, 2005 10:34 AM
Oh, and forgot to add, regarding my strong Plutonian influences, my Mars in Scorpio is also my Focal Point in my T-Square. If you don't know what that means, it's sort of like the tip of an arrow. The point and the condensed energy in that point in order for the arrow to fly. The part of the arrow which arrives first.
Natasha -
But ... staying in a relationship does NOT mean that one wants to necessarily go "back" - to revive a relationship to a more stable and loving state is VERY MUCH going FORWARD ... sometimes we forget, we are creatures of habit resisting change at every turn. Again, my number one fav book in the world, that if I were dictator, everyone would be required to read (which is a contradictory statement since the book is about mastery over dictatorship) - "Escape From Freedom" by Erich Fromme ------------------
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posted March 30, 2006 10:25 PM
Just listening to all you Pluto types does my heart good. My god- people who understand intensity! I have too little of that. Pluto in Leo Con. Asc Here. Channeling this energy is the most difficult of all IMHO. Doing so without alienating others is my lifes goal [and love of course] I feel so connected with this. Thank you all. It is like walking into a room of strangers that you instantly feel connected to. You think, talk, and walk much as I do. Difficult to find.IP: Logged |
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posted March 30, 2006 10:31 PM
Node ~Pluto in Leo conj Asc?!?!? And Moon in Pisces too -- my long-lost twin!!  Is your Pluto in the 12th or 1st?? 'Zala IP: Logged |
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posted March 31, 2006 12:03 AM
I have Pluto conjunct the ascendent in Virgo as well in my 1st house. I am VERY inetnse and all or nothing about alot of things. My personality can be extreme. Due to my Virgo influence, I come across as very calm, cool and collected, but usually there's a volcano underneath.This is all sqaure my Sun, Mars and Venus which means my temper can be quite volatile if I let it. I have always had my temper under tremendous control. It takes alot to get me riled and I walk away from alot of things, but when I do blow, it's a bad thing. I love passionate, smart, funny people who love life and are voracious about it. I like people who put it on the line. I come across as Miss Priss, but underneath is the big surprise!  ------------------
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posted March 31, 2006 12:28 AM
Ohoo, a thread dedicated to allmighty Pluto - nice!Has anyone read Koontz' Intensity? just wondering I have my chart ruler (saturn) in scorpio, pluto also in scorpio, pluto conjunct the MC, sun and jupiter square pluto, moon and mercury sextile pluto, and mars sesquisquare pluto. Yeah my feelings are really intense and my perception's wacked mostly all the time. But that's the one I like about it all, that feels real even when it's bad. Glad to see there's others here with similar aspects and similar stories. pidaua, my gf has the venus conjunct pluto aspect (in scorpio). Time and again people become obsessed with her and she's having a hard time fending them off. It happens with both coworkers and strangers and has been driving her nuts lately. To her it's just irritating stuff but I guess people are drawn to her without really realizing why or how. astro junkie - funny that you mentioned left-brained types. I had a talk with someone recently about some scientists and how they tend to have "tunnel vision" with ignoring anything that's not purely logical/rational. Scary stuff! IP: Logged |
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posted March 31, 2006 05:07 AM
I have Pluto conjunct Descendent. The intensity is never an emotional volcano held inside but instead can lead to obsessive actions. This is because of the mystical power of Pluto, the self actualization part where the Opposite point has to be achieved.
Thus, those with Pluto conjunct Ascendent will find happiness in the point where Pluto is opposite. Just like South Node/North Node. Pluto in the chart is like the south node of infinite spiritual channelizable power. I got this info from an article on Jeff Green.I feel my Pluto conjunct Descendent placement helped me write out the entire dictionary to improve my vocabulary in my teenage years. It also helps me cross the threshold of pain in exercises. IP: Logged |
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posted March 31, 2006 01:11 PM
I'm another with Pluto in the 1st...and everyone, of course, knows what I'm like...enough said. But a little of the pressure seems to have lifted on me recently. Dunno whether tr. Pluto has moved into a favourable angle with my Sun or what. IP: Logged |
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posted March 31, 2006 02:15 PM
I have Sun10*Libra conjunct Pluto11*Libra in the 4th house. For me this energy dosen't come across as intensity (I think ehhe). It does give me an incredible amount of self-control though. I do love intense relationships though - Venus8*Scorpio in the 5th. And I love a challenge Moon14*Aqua in the 8th squared Venus, trine Sun/Pluto.  ------------------
`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
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posted March 31, 2006 04:48 PM
Hi AJ, I thought what you wrote was very interesting. I am also a Libra and people guess me to be Scorpio first. I have a Scorpio Ascendant; Pluto conjuct Mars, Pluto conjunct Uranus; Pluto conjunt Jupiter; Pluto sextile Venus and Neptune. (My Venus and Neptune are in Scorpio, also )
I agreed exactly with what you wrote about feeling sorry for people who are so left brained they cannot be intense but also respecting the ability to use logic.
I would say the Pluto influence in my chart makes me very different than the "cool and detached" description of Libra. It definitely intensifies things. I think my Pluto and Mars conjunction, especially.IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted April 10, 2006 02:19 PM
Oooops...I just saw this post and didn't realize it had been revived.jjaxx, You said "pidaua, my gf has the venus conjunct pluto aspect (in scorpio). Time and again people become obsessed with her and she's having a hard time fending them off. It happens with both coworkers and strangers and has been driving her nuts lately. To her it's just irritating stuff but I guess people are drawn to her without really realizing why or how." Pluto conjunct Ascendant, 1st house, conjunct DC or ANY personal planet (Such as Venus) absolutely causes an intensity in a person- whether is lurks beneath the surface or it is out in your face.. LOL... All one has to do is look into the other's eyes. Whether the person has fair eyes (or dark amber brown like me) they still have this deep intensity and unwavering stare. Most Scorp risings or Pluto on the Ascendant will be confused as being Scorpios. I had a well versed astrology that was convinced I was a Scorp many years ago (this was before I knew I had Pluto conjunct Ascendant in the 1st). Your gf will always have that blessing / curse of attracting people - especially those that somehow feel they can "learn" from her - it's as attractive as moths to a flame - for better or for worse. One way she can try to stop it is to try not to make so much eye-contact with strangers. I do that way to often and my intense gaze is often mistaken for avid interest IN the person instead of just what they are saying. If you combine that with my Saggie temperment (smiling, laughing..etc...) men will mistake that as me wanting to get to know them better. Hell, I just had some guy the other night watch to see what car I drove when I left a pub with a friend. The next night he asked about me and about where I lived. Sunday there was a note on my car telling me how beautiful I am and that if I ever start to miss my Leo that I can call him. EEEEEK!!! A man has to have a strong constitution to be with someone like us. Please never use that against your gf. I did have a fiance that hated it about me, but the only way to stop being approached is to never go outside LOL... and that aint gonna happen. I'll bet she is also a little pistol in the old bed department LMAO.... (hee hee.... I hope that doesn't make you blush). ~Pidaua IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2006 02:29 PM
Sorry, not trying to jump a bandwagon but how would one consider Pluto in the 10th in terms of strength?IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2006 04:06 PM
Been talking to someone who is a Scorpio(sun) with Mercury, Mars, and Uranus in scorpio(as well as N.Node) We've never met yet but ; i assume this person t o be very "intense" . I did her chart and told her some Scorpionic traits and it seemed to freak her out in a way. Like i said we've never actually met. Do you find some Scorpios sometimes "are afraid" of astrology and spiritual things? IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted April 10, 2006 05:01 PM
Hi Tbone, Yes, I do. I also find that to be the case with many of the fixed signs as a whole. They either believe it or they don't - period LOL... People have a tendancy to recoil when they feel someone is getting inside of their heads. So it's better to lay it out gently. I would say with a total Scorp, like the one you are with, less is more. Maybe start off with a synastry chart - that takes the focus off of THEM and puts it on the BOTH of you
Dulce,
I would say Pluto in the 10th would give a strong drive for an intense public persona. Since the 10th house is career and public ventures, I could see that person being somewhat behind the scenes but still very much in charge. IP: Logged |
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posted April 10, 2006 05:40 PM
Thanks for the topic, Pidaua.
I enjoyed reading some of these (the ones I read);
still looking forward to the others.
I may have something of my own to say,
not sure yet.~hsc
Sun/VenusRx/Midheaven/Uranus in Pisces Decan of Scorpio
Pluto in the 8th/9th,
Pluto Square Ascendant,
Pluto Semi-Square Mars/Mercury
Pluto in Close Septile to Moon in 1st ((7th harmonic; very spiritual aspect))
Pluto Sextile Neptune Singleton
Pluto Semi-Sextile Chart-Ruling Uranus
Pluto Semi-Sextile Venus/Midheaven
Pluto in mutal reception to Venus
Eros in Scorpio Square Moon (exact)
Suzyque -
"I meant to ask if any other plutonians have any advice on handling the plutonian energy and not letting it get out of control but not repressing it either?" http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0877283982/sr=8-1/qid=114470 4675/ref=sr_1_1/102-7025307-8860943?%5Fencoding=UTF8
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pidaua
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posted April 11, 2006 06:56 PM
Damn HSC... not only are you a Scorp, but you have a HECK of a lot of Pluto power. Hmmm.... wonder how it feels from your perspective?IP: Logged |
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posted April 11, 2006 09:42 PM
scorpio is my favorite sign. i will definitely date a person heavily influenced by it in the future.
they're the only ones i can trust and that can fully understand me.plutonian aspects in my chart that i know of:
scorpio moon in 6th, pluto in scorpio in 6th
sun opposite pluto
moon conjunct pluto
mars in aqua square pluto
jupiter opposite pluto
pluto trine moon's node in pisces
pluto trine ascendant [Taurus Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cancer Rising]
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posted April 12, 2006 05:11 PM
dear pidua,like you, i am definitely attracted to those with strong scorpio/pluto in their charts, and i am loathe to be around emotionally shallow people. i have a t-square between the sun, moon, and pluto: my sun at 28 pisces opposes my pluto at 28 virgo, and my moon at 27 sag squares both. chrissy IP: Logged |
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posted April 12, 2006 06:17 PM
Pidaua
Great topic! I was just thinking about what power really is... Pluto could (I think) also be the ability to transform yourself. (or at least I'm hoping it is. I learned not too long ago that I have a grand kite with Pluto as the power point. Pluto is opposite my moon and Chiron, sextile neptune and mercury and sun. It's 10 degrees from Mars and 8 degrees from Uranus. So what's all this power stuff when I don't feel particularly powerful nor influential. So what is all this Plutonian power anyway?IP: Logged | |
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