posted April 12, 2006 06:37 PM            

That's a great observation and question about power. I think Pluto also refers to "power in reserve". It rules transformation (and remember that also includes "self" transformation). Pluto in a chart gives someone the ability to transform that which it touches - meaning, if it is in your 1st house you may go through transformations that affect you as a person and your appearance (I know that I have gone through amazing changes- not really looks wise, but maybe inside).

Say Pluto is transiting your 4th house or conjuncting your IC- you may find major upheaval and renewal of domestic situations (buying and remodeling an old house, moving, etc).

Pluto also may presdispose you to causing changes behind the scenes. You may not FEEL like you have power, but you may notice things getting done on your suggestion.

posted April 13, 2006 01:36 AM              

Another thing to think about is that Pluto is a "use it or lose it" energy. If YOU don't feel powerful, that may mean that those around you are using your power FOR you. You might want to examine your life and see places where you let others "take over" things in your life...and you might just want to take these things back!

Plutonically,

posted April 13, 2006 02:15 AM            

Thank you for the education.

- hsc

posted April 13, 2006 09:11 AM              

To be cheesy and quote Lennon. I know what they mean by "instant karma".

1st house pluto
moon conjunct pluto
asc. conjunct pluto
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Scorpio sun, venus, mars, mercury, and uranus
Libra moon, pluto, and asc.

posted April 13, 2006 01:27 PM              

you use that sentence:'use it or lose it'..
pidaua how can i find pluto effects,conjuctions,etc..

venus conjuct pluto
mars sextile pluto
neptune sextile pluto..

pluto in libra in 10 th house..

and of course i am scorpio

posted April 13, 2006 01:54 PM            

Also, that website www.astro.com will give you an individual portrait as well as one that you can click to view the definitions.

posted April 19, 2006 09:58 PM              

Yeah, so you know what it's like for people to think of you as a Scorpio before a Libra ... it's even caused people to be TOO nice to me, and I'll be like, looking behind me to see who it is they are showing such stringent respect towards .... hee hee ...

posted April 19, 2006 10:13 PM              

Mine's the 12th...but the 12th is the house ruled by Pisces, the sign of my Sun; and is a co-ruler of my Asc, Scorpio.

Mine doesn't make any really woo-hoo aspects (a generational sextile w/ my Neptune and a perhaps interesting tight quincunx w/ my Sun), but it's also my only Cardinal.

posted April 20, 2006 03:03 AM            

I would also like to know if Pluto is considered strong in my chart. I've read that it is not very comfortable in Virgo.

posted April 20, 2006 06:01 AM              

Sun sextile pluto,Neptune sextile Pluto,Pluto opposition ascendant.

It could allso be that I have a of planets in the eighth house: Sun,Jupiter,Uranus,Neptune,South Node.

posted April 20, 2006 05:13 PM              

I honestly don't know if i am in a position to give a whole lot of advice on pluto energy but i have a strong plutonian in my life now who is forcing me to face a lot of that intense energy and emotion that i keep bottled up, so i am getting there slowly.

Reading all the posts helps because it gives you a good view of how maybe you are percieved by others when you are plutonian.

posted April 22, 2006 01:22 PM              

It's so funny, you know if someone you know is a little green when it comes to astrology, and they ask your Sign ... don't you sort of have to hold back a giggle when you say Libra? Cuz you just know that they painted a picture in their mind about the stereotypical Libra traits. Makes you sort of want to be the most compassionate person at that point.

As for feeling more Scorpio than Libra, there's something about my Chart which has forced me to pay careful attention to the Watery stuff, because it's like I've always try to stave them off. This makes me think that although Water is strong in my Chart, the Air part is sort of keeping an eye on it to make sure it doesn't spaz out. So on the one hand, I DO associate a lot with those Scorpio energies, but either my Sun, or some other influence makes me wish upon a star for more objectivity.

The cool thing is, what you might automatically associate with Water doesn't always manifest as Water in the end. Sometimes the Water is what has helped me be more objective. I don't have any specifics off the top of my head, but perhaps it's in knowing more about deep Water gives one the confidence that the situation is well understood. Don't know if that makes sense.

Do you like Scorpio mates? They are too strong for me in a purely romantic sense.

posted May 14, 2006 12:31 AM              

Well, not sure exactly why, but as far as co-worker's thinking you're schizo, been there, done that. I made a really good friend during one of these "episodes". She taught me to be more assertive and open and honest with her, and I couldn't help but notice how much she appreciated that.

But you know what? I haven't felt good about doing work for money for MANY years now. I'd prefer to work for free, believe it or not. Maybe it's my Uranus/Aquarius influences, or my Pisces Chiron - not really sure yet. So that "schizo" shyte that gets reflected back to us has more to do with a necessary duality than anything else. I think so anyways ...

... As long as that doesn't feel totally uncomfortable to you. I have a really weird philosophy about money ... how about you?

Maybe you'll end up like me broke!

posted May 14, 2006 06:24 AM              

I have been accused of being manipulative and forceful. Most of my life Ive felt the need to hide my power as I am aware of the strength of it...and now...when some (women normally) people get glimpses of it, they either feel threatened, jealous of me or feel I am manipulating.

Of course the people who love and care, know the real me, but I feel so misundertood at times, especially of late.

posted May 14, 2006 07:45 AM            

My friend has Venus conjunct Pluto in Scorpio and YES, she seems to stir up alot of jealousy in women of all ages. I never quite understood it. Well, she does have the looks to envy, but some of these women are good looking themselves. She tends to lose herself in Romance though.

posted May 15, 2006 09:25 PM              

I hear you! I have Pluto in my 1st house and I have been told that I can be very "overwhelming" at times. I've spent alot of time in my life keeping my personal power under wraps. I literally feel that I could bulldoze people @ times.

I only pull out the big guns" when I feel it's absolutely necessary. Other than that, if people can't deal w/me, then it's unfortunate.

As I've gotten older, I'm more @ peace w/myself and am better @ integrating my personality and not fighting myself so much.

posted May 17, 2006 01:10 PM              

I've got Pluto (in Libra - 4th house) in Mutual Reception with Venus (in Scorpio - 5th house). Pluto is conj my Sun & Venus is conj my Uranus. It's like this web of energy in the 2 mentioned houses. My Libra & Scorpio energies are intertwined. It seems that I cannot feel or think about 1 without the other. It certainly has to do with my home/innermost life & my creativity/self-expression. Also friends & transformation. Still trying to figure out what this is about?! Ideas welcomed!

Thanks for listening.

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`Who are you?' said the Caterpillar. This was not an encouraging opening for a conversation. Alice replied, rather shyly, `I--I hardly know, sir, just at present-- at least I know who I WAS when I got up this morning, but I think I must have been changed several times since then.'
~Lewis Carroll