posted November 20, 2012 01:21 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
In his Vedic chart Ali has Mars is in Aries, sometimes it's better to ask questions before giving answers. Taurus has more patience being a fixed sign, slower to boil. However Taurus is not known for their fighting abilities their more known for their inertia (fixed earth).

Other things play into whether or not an Aries Mars or a Scorpio Mars has the fortitude to stick around towards the end of a fight. MIA might not be a fan of follow through, but they are fierce fighters. And a good way to understand or find out about an Aries Mars's nature is by asking one, instead of making an assumption. I've never seen a MIA walk away from a fight. There are various ways to define what constitutes "giving up." Giving up to an Aries (Moon and Mars in Aries here) means fighting till the fight is over. When you enter the ring, there's no looking towards the exit, Aries is cardinal fire, that burst of potent raw instinctive energy. In that moment there's one objective, and one goal which is attack. They rely on their physical abilities more than any other sign. I should know because on top of possessing MIA, I know many of them and tend to always run into them.

But as stated before by many over the years, MIA and MIS are two very different types of individuals and fighters. They tend not to even encounter each other, especially not in term of physical fights. Outside of personal biases, it's near impossible to accurately measure whether it's these two placements within someone's chart that allow them the ability to win any particular fight. Too many other things are at play.

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First off, we weren't talking about Vedic astrology. We've been talking about Western astrology and M. Ali has Taurus Mars. So my response is valid and correct. Maybe you should pay attention before you "correct" others.

Secondly, I am friends with several Aries Mars people and they ALL abandon their battles if they don't see results in a short amount of time. I don't have to ask them if they abandon, I've seen them do that many times over the years. If things get too heavy and difficult for them, they will leave it rather than press it and stick around.

Thirdly, I wasn't talking about any kind of fighting. I was describing Aries Mars' and Taurus Mars' general natures.

Finally, yes, Taurus Mars is very well known to be inert but that's because Taurus Mars energy is linked to investing energy in purpose and practical application. We're not ones to just take up stuff for sh*ts and giggles. We do things and make sure there's a concrete purpose to it. We want to make sure we're going to get something material out of it, whether it's for long-term money, security, and/or comfort. Once we take up something, we're not ones to abandon either, which is something that Aries Mars, although dignified, is actually prone to doing, because Aries Mars is very ego-centered and can't handle losing (bruises their ego). Cardinal energy tends to not want to stick around and have to face the prospect of losing. Fixed energy knows that there will be some losses along the way, and that would only be minor and temporary so they aren't hung up on the ego thing, which is why sticking around and seeing things finish is their mantra. Yes, Taurus Mars doesn't have the explosive and exciting energy that Aries Mars has, but we do have the staying power where it counts and that rivals Scorpio Mars and can even make calm and calculating Cap Mars say "you're crazy!"

Taurus Mars Harry Houdini said before he kicked the bucket, "I'm tired of fighting." He performed his last act 2 days before he died and in excruciating pain. Only Taurus Mars would keep working in physical pain knowing that there's some payoff. Even Cap Mars wouldn't put with that.

posted November 20, 2012 02:45 PM              

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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
First off, we weren't talking about Vedic astrology. We've been talking about Western astrology and M. Ali has Taurus Mars. So my response is valid and correct. Maybe you should pay attention before you "correct" others.

Secondly, I am friends with several Aries Mars people and they ALL abandon their battles if they don't see results in a short amount of time. I don't have to ask them if they abandon, I've seen them do that many times over the years. If things get too heavy and difficult for them, they will leave it rather than press it and stick around.

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How do you know the individuals who posted here weren't speaking in reference to Vedic astrology? I know you didn't ask them, I guess from your response you just assumed we are all followers of western astrology. This thread goes back many years, and we are all from different backgrounds and believe different things. Not everyone generally utilizes western astrology, or even the same house systems, people are just speaking from what they know. In Vedic astrology Ali has his Mars in Aries, meaning the person that mentioned that was not wrong. They were speaking from the astrological knowledge they have at their disposal. You can't fault them for that because you follow an entirely different astrological system.

posted November 20, 2012 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
How do you know the individuals who posted here weren't speaking in reference to Vedic astrology? I know you didn't ask them, I guess from your response you just assumed we are all followers of western astrology. This thread goes back many years, and we are all from different backgrounds and believe different things. Not everyone generally utilizes western astrology, or even the same house systems, people are just speaking from what they know. In Vedic astrology Ali has his Mars in Aries, meaning the person that mentioned that was not wrong. They were speaking from the astrological knowledge they have at their disposal. You can't fault them for that because you follow an entirely different astrological system.

And generalizing the actions of the few Aries Mars individuals you've known to the entire category of those with similar placements is a crude stereotype. State your observations but don't make blanket generalizations. This is where astrology is at fault, people tend to use it as a way to poorly misjudge others.

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Ok, first of all, I'd like to know why you have an axe to grind with me. No, really, be honest. I can see through your bullsh*t.

When people talk about Vedic astrology, they actually mention "Vedic" or "Sidereal" in their post. The majority of people on this board are talking about Western astrology. Most astrology boards actually default to Western astrology and any other kind of astrology is clearly labeled. You seem upset that M.Ali doesn't have an Aries Mars and keep hounding on that. Well, he was born in the Western world, he was born in the United States so naturally his chart would pertain to Western astrology.

As for what I wrote, they're not judgements on people, I didn't write anything that's aimed at anyone in particular. They weren't "blanket" statements either, as it's a general discussion on this board that nearly every poster made their general observations. I stated my general observations but my wording is confident and sured. Clearly that has threatened you otherwise you wouldn't be singling me out as the guilty party and trying to make an example of me when others are just as guilty, including yourself, of making general observations.

posted November 22, 2012 12:52 PM            

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posted November 22, 2012 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
What's the matter, did I bruise your ridiculous ego? Now you have to launch some sort of campaign to lecture everyone who talks about astrology in the general sense? GOOD LUCK. Try taking everyone down. In case you haven't realized, this is an astrology forum.

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posted July 21, 2013 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by watermonkey:
In my opinion, Aries, the scorpios are cunning deceptive and all but it doesnt have the "never give up" of the ram and eventually will lose out in the long run.

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"Never give up" is Mars in Scorpio's motto rather than Mars in Aries. Mars in Aries will get bored in the long run, they usually have so many things to do and they are not known for their patience. Mars in Scorpio can focus on one thing a lot better than Mars in Aries.

posted July 29, 2013 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by velxei:
the mars in scorpio by far, I loved the war and battle reference somebody made before.

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posted July 31, 2013 08:12 AM            

Most of you are making blanket statements based on the fact that you are an Aries or Scorpio. Fights are purely circumstantial and there is no indication of who will win a battle/fight/war (physical or otherwise) between two of the mightiest signs in the zodiac.

There are 7 billion people in the world, I assure you a Mars in Aries character has triumphed over a Mars in Scorpio somewhere. I'm sure somewhere else on the planet a Mars in Scorpio character laid waste to a Mars in Aries opponent.

posted August 07, 2013 02:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Regulus18:
Being a Mars in Taurus I'm gonna go ahead and finish this off.

Most of you are making blanket statements based on the fact that you are an Aries or Scorpio. Fights are purely circumstantial and there is no indication of who will win a battle/fight/war (physical or otherwise) between two of the mightiest signs in the zodiac.

There are 7 billion people in the world, I assure you a Mars in Aries character has triumphed over a Mars in Scorpio somewhere. I'm sure somewhere else on the planet a Mars in Scorpio character laid waste to a Mars in Aries opponent.

Stop arguing the mundane and let's all come together to share astrological knowledge so that we can come to solid grips with things that really DO matter.

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