posted March 30, 2005 01:01 PM            

Then Job answered the LORD, and said,

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I know that thou canst do every thing, and that no thought can be withholden from thee.

3 Who is he that hideth counsel without knowledge? therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not.

4 Hear, I beseech thee, and I will speak: I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.

5 I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.

6 Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.

posted March 30, 2005 02:42 PM            

And I think its very irresponsible of you even to imply to a person who is considering suicide that they are "weak".

posted March 30, 2005 07:30 PM              

cancerrg,

anyone who has felt rejection, depression, embarrassment, guilt, or any of these emotions in the extreme will have felt at least 'why am i even here' if not 'why cant i just leave', both of these are suicidal in my opinion because they undermine existence, they are hopelessness, which leads to suicidal TENDENCIES, not suicide in itself, cowardliness leads to suicide in itself, that is a different story.

yes i have been there, but thank goodness for my air sun, I wish you best, and keep it to tendencies and thoughts, dont put it in action,

I have a crazy aunt who helped her daughter commit suicide, and tried a couple of times herself, and is now being tried in court for some charge of murder god knows what, lots of loons in my family here, thank goodness for my grounded, educated immediate family that keeps us all out of the deep deep blues.

water signs, particularly water moons, can have this tendency , especially scorpios, I have a scorpio moon, it has to be all or nothing, obsession, especially with Venus opposing Pluto, it is one of the HARDEST aspects in my chart. there is ecstasy and then despair, by turns, but thankfully the logic of my 3 air planets pulls me back up, and libra rising helps.

hope that answers ur question, where is ur mercury? Have u tried talking to urself and rationalizing ur feelings? If you try to be starkly logical, 2 plus 2 is four, rationalizing and materializing your emotions in these times, as in where is it coming from, what do i want to do with it, how can i make myself feel better, it will be good, this is easier to do if you have a mercury that is not in a water sign. even if it is, you will have to work on the logic/rational side, earth and air placements both help

Let me know, I am here

posted March 31, 2005 06:40 AM              

Cancers tend to keep things inside a lot, especially bad things - they don't spill..which isn't healthy and can harm their psyche..It helps a lot when they have someone they trust with their deepest darkest stories and emotions so they don't carry that kinda bagage arround...

I'm hoping you asked this out of curisoty and aren't actually having these thoughts right now. If you are, then my advice would be to enjoy the little things in life, simple things like going for a walk or a jog or a swim - to clear your head, you know.. Try to distance yourself from whatever is depressing you most.. take some time to yourself and do something you enjoy doing

And remeber you're special just the way you are for the person you are and there's noone else in the world just like you.. I mean even SD gave you advice (he never does that) - I rest my case

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Thosa, what do you mean it solves nothing? Of course it solves things... just not very well!

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posted March 31, 2005 06:53 AM              

Thanx pix ... I needed that!

posted March 31, 2005 08:03 AM              

If you feel irrelevant, life becomes a chore. A very sad feeling hits me when I realise it means every thought, feeling and any suffering then become for nothing.

Make your pain worthwhile by attempting to feel joy. Its out there, but can be elusive for some and ridiculously easy for others to reach out and grab. Thats because happiness can only ever come in our particular brand, otherwise it won't be happiness. I suggest discovering what that is as I have been depressed because I didn't have what others have, but then it wasn't what I wanted anyway.

Doesn't numb the pain in the short-term though.....suppose you could consider it a challenge.